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THE WSQK STATION

The WSQK tower is Cerebro

This includes Byler and Bobgate and is a bit long....

Guys! I believe I have found more proof that S5 is in Mike's mind. I believe the station represents the party's AV club and the tower represents Cerebro. WSQK mirrored is KQSW which is an actual radio station in Wyoming, US.

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To smoke a Will from his closet...

aka Vecna told us via an allegory that he forced Will out.

While Will says that him coming out and telling his truth is a way to "defeat" Vecna... I don't think that's actually the case?

Because if we look back at the last scene between Will and Vecna... Vecna says this:

Vecna is saying he wants to "smoke a fox from its den".

What does this mean exactly? Well...

In a literal sense, it refers to the hunting technique. Putting fire into the entrance of an underground fox's den will force a fox out of it. The fox MUST come out or else it will die from carbon monoxide poisoning.

In a figurative sense, it means:

Forcing someone to leave their place of safety/comfort

Forcing someone to expose a secret

Forcing someone to take an action (like a chess piece heh)

i made a side blog where i will post my bigger theories and analysis’. i hate everything getting lost in my reblogs and other posts. if you’re interested: idontbelieveincoincidences :)

#stranger things #conformitygate #conformitygate theory #lovewinsgate

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honestly jonathan byers is one of the most interesting and subtle characters in the show. he has a very raw character, he’s very loving to his family, he can kick ass and fight monsters when his family is in danger or even punch a cop when his loved ones are insulted, but the way he turns to violence is very different to the steve-macho way or hopper-violence-as-a-means-to-an-end way. he’s very sensitive, he feels deeply and he's super closed off and doesn’t trust people like at all, that's why he alienates himself from society. but at the same time he is fascinated with people to the point he centers his art around watching people in their most authentic moments. he’s interested in something deeper in the human nature, and he’s fucking making an anti-capitalist horror movie in his first year of university. all of this makes him an incredibly attentive observer, and it's his biggest strength and weakness.

he cannot communicate his needs at all, so he keeps living for others, but it’s not because he wants to meet their expectations or construct a facade (looking at mike here), but because he was parentified so early, he never had a chance to learn what he wants because he needed to care for his mom and younger brother from an early age. so he finds his purpose in sacrificing himself for others. jonathan is passive and selfless and that's his biggest problem.

and of course it makes sense that he turns to drugs to avoid thinking about his crumbling relationship and his NYU dream dead, because he learned this coping mechanism, when he was a kid and his parents argued a lot, so when it got ugly he would put on loud music to dissociate from what was happening at home. again, jonathan's defense mechanisms are rooted in passiveness, avoidance, and dissociation.

jonathan's character is so beautifully constructed, the groundwork is all there, and honestly i love that he broke up with nancy and went to NYU to make his niche arthouse horror film in the fake-ass finale, but I would really love to see more to his arc. because it's still not clear what exactly jonathan desires, who he will become when he stops being an observer and takes action, especially if that action is purely selfish for the first time in his life

(and for my fellow bylers here, if we take into consideration that jonathan is a mirror character to will, his selfishness arc should expand will's selfishness arc, because these two are too selfless for their own good, and they need to fucking up their game really fast, figure out what they want, and take it)

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ok so I was in a gay mike Mood today so here’s a passionate ramble abt it from earlier because regardless of whether you’re a gay Mike truther or anything else, the idea that Mike being gay/having never loved El would hurt El more than him falling out of love with her/is inconsiderate to her and her character arc is absolutely fucking stupid and imo, Mike being gay is actually the sexuality for Mike that is the GENTLEST and KINDEST to el’s character and works with her themes and arcs Perfectly in a way that no other version of Mike does. You don’t have to agree with me on this but I’m literally going insane seeing the “people who think Mike is gay don’t care about El” takes because IMO and like I’m gonna talk abt more in-depth in my full analysis, again, gay Mike is actually the resolution/sexuality for Mike that is the best for El/cares about her the MOST.

Why do I think this? Why do I love gay Mike narratively when it comes to Mike and El’s relationship and the end of it and SPECIFICALLY from the perspective of caring about El and wanting to make sure that she gets her happy ending/that her arcs and themes are resolved in a happy and satisfying way?

BECAUSE EL REALIZES IT WAS NEVER ABOUT HER!!!! SHE REALIZES THAT IT WAS NEVER ABOUT HER ABILITY TO *BE* LOVED BUT RATHER ABOUT HIS INABILITY TO LOVE HER, AND THAT ITS NOT ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT WHO/WHAT SHE IS OR ANYTHING SHES DONE BUT INSTEAD ABOUT WHO/WHAT MIKE IS (GAY). AND SO SHE REALIZES. WHY MIKE COULDNT SAY HE LOVED HER. WHY HE PHYSICALLY STRUGGLED TO SAY IT TO HER FACE IN THE S3 AISLE SCENE. ITS NOT THAT HE DIDNT WANT TO SAY IT, IT WAS THAT HE COULDNT, IT WASNT THAT HE DIDNT WANT TO LOVE HER ITS THAT HE CANT. EL REALIZING THAT THIS IS SOMETHING MIKE CANNOT CONTROL AND REALIZING HOW HE *IS* DIFFERENT (callback to the s4 bedroom fight scene where she said he doesn’t understand what it’s like to be different & I think that in the s5 OST in this Mike and El breakup scene we’re going to get a track that has parts of the ‘being different’ track incorporated into it) AND JUST. EL REALIZING FINALLY THAT ITS NOT HER THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE THAT HE DOESNT SEE HER AS THE MONSTER, BUT INSTEAD SEES HIMSELF AS THE MONSTER, AS THE FREAK.

El who realizes that every single time mike lied to her was because he was lying to himself. El, who is so focused on “friends don’t lie,” and was upset about Mike lying to her because it implied that they weren’t friends, realizing that it was never about anything she did, but rather, Mike was lying to himself, it was about him, and that he doesn’t have to lie anymore and they can be friends.

El, someone who feels unlovable not only realizing that it was never about her being unloveable but rather abt mikes inability to love her bc he’s gay, but also seeing somebody who tried so HARD to love her, who saw her as somebody who deserved love SO MUCH that he would cut out parts of himself and repress himself in an attempt to give her the love that he thought she deserved. And how people in el’s life like brenner have never actually *tried* to love her, but Mike tried SO HARD but couldn’t love her in the right way (not that brenner loved El romantically but yknow general love) and how Mike can’t fully love her platonically as long as they’re in a relationship bc of the lying and the idea that lying = not friends/lack of platonic love. People who COULD love El didn’t even try to, but Mike, who CANT love her still saw her as SO worthy of love that he tried so hard to love her.

Mike didn’t not love her bc he felt she didn’t deserve love- he COULDNT love her but tried so hard to, because he DOES feel that she deserves it. El feeling like Mike didn’t give enough in their relationship- but then realizing just how much he gave up for it, how much of HIMSELF he repressed and gave up for it.

Like. Platonic Elmike with gay Mike specifically makes me so emotional for these reasons!! It’s such a beautiful conclusion to their arcs!!

El feels unlovable for who she is & so if there’s smthn that Mike doesn’t like about her & fell out of love with her over then it’s still ABOUT HER, she still feels unlovable. Those sort of messy situations happen IRL and Mike wouldn’t be morally bad for falling out of love with El, but it wouldn’t be a satisfying, happy conclusion to El’s themes and arcs, because El has been set up in a way with gay Mike in mind from the start, so her themes and arcs are meant to work in tandem with Mike being gay.

Like I just!! Not to mention the acceptance and relief that Mike would feel from El in all this and the deepened understanding between them!! But focusing on El and her feelings specifically because that’s what this post is about: I just am so emotional rn about El realizing that Mike tries to love her, that despite everything, he saw her as so worthy of love that he tried to give it to her even when it was killing him and forcing him to repress himself. He saw El as so worthy of love that he’d stew in hatred towards himself if it meant that she could feel loved, because he TRIED to love her even at the cost of his own mental well-being. El, who thought that Mike didn’t love her because of something wrong with HER, realizing that it was something “wrong” with him instead, realizing that he IS different, just like her, and that she was wrong to say that he isn’t different during the bedroom scene. The narrative BEAUTY of El feeling most loved at the END of her relationship with Mike, how his inability to love her is beautifully and ironically exactly what makes her feel loved, because a.) it wasn’t about her/her ability to BE loved but his ability TO love her and b.) he tried SO HARD to love her because he saw her as so worthy of love. El feeling so loved because of the realization that Mike can’t and didn’t love her romantically?? It’s such a beautiful narrative!!

El feels unlovable. Mike feels incapable of loving. But neither is true. El cannot be loved romantically by Mike because Mike is incapable of romantically loving her- but that doesn’t mean that El is incapable of being loved as a whole, and it doesn’t mean that mike is incapable of loving as a whole, he just can’t love her, and so she can’t be romantically loved by him, and because of the ties between “lying = not friends,” and the strain that their romantic relationship put on their friendship and prevented them from even getting to fully KNOW eachother, he can’t fully platonically love her until the romantic relationship is over!!

El Hopper is so loved. And she’s going to realize this and it’s going to be tied to gay Mike!! And it’s so narratively beautiful!! El realizing how much Mike tried to love her, how highly he thinks of her, how much of himself he gave up in his attempts to love her, how much it hurt him to try and love her, but he did it anyways because he sees her as being worthy of love and happiness and was trying to be the one to make sure that she got it?? It’s so good!!! There’s so many people who treated El HORRIBLY, and didn’t even fucking try to love her, people from the lab, and the bullies, but Mike TRIED, people who COULD have loved her but didn’t even try versus somebody who CANT love her but tried so hard??? El is going to feel so loved, it’s a perfect tie-in to her arcs about feeling unlovable, like a monster. El realizing that Mike doesn’t see her as a monster but instead sees himself as one?? Sees himself as the different/freak one?? And dismissed El’s feelings of being a “freak/monster” because Mike thinks so highly of her and so lowly of himself & sees HIMSELF as a freak/monster for being gay that he can’t process El feeling like a freak/monster because he sees her as being in completely different league than him. But that also puts him in a position of seeing her as a superhero which is something she Doesn’t want- but then they both realize that neither is a hero and neither is a monster and that they’re both actually deeply similar and that the they’re both just different, they’re not monsters, they’re different. And that’s not a bad thing! And Mike is going to realize that it isn’t a bad thing! Because El is different and so is he, and he thinks so highly of El that if he’s different, like her, then he can’t be a monster/awful for being different, because El isn’t a monster/awful for being different.

So yeah. Please cut it out with the absolutely ridiculous “gay mike ‘truthers’ don’t care about el,” and “mike being gay would be mean to el compared to mike being bi or unlabelled” rhetoric because it’s the literally the absolute opposite.

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Vanishing of Will Byers Posts

Clockblocked: There Was A Grandfather Clock Behind Will on the Night He Vanished (x)

Original Eightfifteengate Post/Where Eightfifteengate Started (x)

What The Hell Is Going On The Night Will Vanished? Newspaper Weirdness, Terry and Joyce Being Conflated, and Timeline Weirdness (x)

Eddie’s Poster vs Will’s Poster, Will’s Changing Newspapers, and Timeline Weirdness (x)

The Demogorgon, It Got Me: The “Demogorgon” That Will Saw Was Vecna and Vecna Looks Like An Actual DND Demogorgon (x)

That’s Not The Same Kid At The Same Time: Initial Warm Will vs Cool Will Post (x)

Brief Warm Will vs Cool Will Post (x)

Benjamin Buck and The Articles About Terry and About Will’s Vanishing (x)

That Weird Scene Of Mike Jumping Up Twice On The Night will Vanished (x)

Initial Post About That Weird Still Image Of Will Standing Outside The Glowing Shed (This Shot Doesn’t Exist In The Show) (x) That Weird Still Image Of Will Standing Outside The Glowing Shed Is The Picture Netflix Chose For S1EP1 (x)

Another Post About That Still Image Outside The Shed (x)

Initial Post About The Demogorgon Standing Far Away When The UD Castle Byers Was Destroyed- Which Means Something Else Took Will/Was Walking Beside Castle Byers (x)

“What’s Wrong With His Clothes” ft Will’s Sleeves Magically Rolling Up And Down The Night He Vanished and Warm Will vs Cool Will (x)

That’s The One: Will and 001 and Edward Creel (x)

“Not a Dog”: Chester is Not a Dog Initial Post (x)

Hopper Referring to Chester As A Guy (x)

Chester Running Past The Rose (x)

Mike S1 EP1 Garage Scene vs 001 Parallels Part 1 (x)

Mike S1 EP1 Garage Scene vs 001 Parallels Part 2 (x)

Mike S1 EP1 Garage Scene vs 001 Parallels Part 3 (x)

Mike S1 EP1 Garage Scene vs 001 Parallels Part 4 (x)

It’s Weird That Mike Didn’t Respond During The Garage Scene (x) Again, Weird That Mike Didn’t Respond During The Garage Scene (x)

The Skis With Eyes Behind Mike In The Wheeler Garage (x)

The Byers’ Dining Room Light Fixture Is An Upside Down Version Of The Creel Foyer Light Fixture (x)

Why Wasn’t Will Damp When Joyce Saw Her Vision Of Him And Why Isn’t El Damp In The Void- Was Will Projecting Himself Like El Does? (x)

Why Are There Multiple Versions Of Will’s Fireball Drawing? (x)

What The Hell Is That White Light In The Byers’ Dining Room Window During Will’s Vanishing? (x)

The Will That El Visits In The Void An The Castle Byers That She Visits In The Void Looks Different In Many Ways From The Will That We See Singing To Himself And His Castle Byers And Theyre All Shown In The Same Episode (x)

Another Post About Will/Castle Byers Being Different In The El Void Scene vs The Singing Scene (x)

What About The Other Time? Old Post About Joyce’s Dialogue And Multiple Timelines (x)

The Byers’ Warm Toned vs Cool Toned Porch Lights (x)

Benjamin Buck Writing The Article About Terry (x)

Remember How Entering The Coordinates For The Nina Project Takes You To Area 51 On A Map? Look At The Phone The Night Will Disappeared- “Area Code 501″ and The Vanishing Line of Text on the Byers’ Phone (x) Another Post About Area 51 vs Area 501 (x)

The Byers’ Dining Room Light Fixture Is An Upside Down Version Of The Creels’ Foyer Light Fixture (x)

The White Light During Will’s Rescue And During Vecna Visions (x) We Hear The Phone Beeping After Will Drops It- So Why Didn’t Joyce Or Jonathan Notice It? (x)

If The S1 UD Is Frozen On The Day Will Vanished, Then Why Is The Byers’ UD Fridge Magnets/Kitchen Different From The Night Will Vanished? (x)

Why Didn’t The Hivemind React When Jopper Stepped On The Vines In S1? (x)

The Red and Blue Xmas Lights Turning On When Jopper Walks In The UD (x)

Joyce and The Other Time/The One vs Will Being Taken By 001 (x)

The Lights Are Different Colours In The S1 UD vs Later UD Scenes (x)

Why Are The Snow Ball Lights There In The UD? If The UD Is Frozen On The Day Will Vanished, They Shouldn’t Be There At All (x)

The Sound Clip From When Nancy Sees The Girl That Resembles Barb & Barb’s Glasses Being Cracked On Her Left Eye & The Weird Orange Stuff On Her Face & The Blood Coming Out Of Her Nose (x)

El Being Called Sick vs The S1 UD Being Sick (x)

Initial Post About The Demogorgon Coming Up Out Of Nowhere Behind Jonathan In S1 (x)

How Did A Demogorgon Come Out Of The Byers’ Ceiling With Jancy Without Opening A Typical Portal? (x)

The Upside Down vs Rightside Up Light Fixtures In The Byers’ Hallway (x)

Initial Post About The Ticking Sound Effect When El Pokes The Demogorgon In The Void (x)

Who Flicked The Shed Light Off After Will Vanished? (x)

Creel Attic Lightbulb vs Will’s Shed Lightbulb (x)

The Hawkins Power And Light Billboard Advertisement (x)

Talking More About Multiple Upside Downs & The Fact That If The UD Is Frozen On The Night Will Vanished Then Billy’s Car Should Not Be There In S3 (x)

Initial Post About Will and El and Visions and Dampness (x)

Will’s Moving Bike On The Night He Vanished (x)

It’s Weird That The Lab Replicated Will’s Body From The Night He Vanished Right Down To His Sleeves Being Rolled Up (x)

Maybe The Missing Hunters Were Gay (x)

The Light Outside The Byers’ Dining Room vs Vecna Vision Light (x)

Will’s Vanishing and Joyce’s Car Outside Melvald’s (x)

Staircase Shot Parallel Between Mike, Barb, and Billy (x)

Will Had Blood In His Nose When He Was Rescued (x)

Tricked You? No, I Saved You. S1 Brenner-001 Parallel (x)

Will’s Vanishing vs NINA Parallel/Hopper vs 001 Parallel (x)

The Byers’ Changing Laundry (x)

How Did Will Call Joyce From The UD? (x)

What The Hell Is Going On With Will’s Rescue and Barb’s Body? (x)

Initial Post About Vecna’s Regenerative Abilities And Some Vecna-Demogorgon Parallels (x)

Will’s Unbuttoned Flannel (x)

Demogorgons Generally Don’t Emit Light: What’s Up With That White Light When The UD Castle Byers Is Destroyed (x)

Will and Saruman and Radagast (x)

Pearl Buttons: An Analysis Of Barb Possibly Having Powers (x)

Will Recognized Brenner- But Which Brenner Did He Recognize? (x)

True Sight, Doppelgangers, Shapeshifter and Will’s Powers (And Why is Brenner Basically Every DND Monster in ST?) (x)

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Argyle, PPTD, and Truth

Argyle sees the truth in S4 b/c he is always high (On PPTD -- Purple Palm Tree Delight). It's an extension of this post about the Nina Project. TL:DR: Derek has truesight (last section)

401:

Wooden weeder -> feeder (feed/weed for birds)

Robin comes to mind when I think about birds.

Jonathan is mopey dick

Plan to go to money pit together (college)

The money pit is a 1986 film in which a couple buy a dream mansion for cheap, and discover it's a wreck so they renovate. There are collapsing staircases and bathtubs falling through the floor. Reminds me of the breakup room at Hawkins Lab 506.

That doesn't pass the smell test -- stinks to high heaven

There's a lot of complaining about smell throughout S5, even in the last few lines of EP8. Smell test has failed.

402:

Mike is a shitty knockoff

Argyle shatters car window with golf ball

Breaking barriers. Ted also plays golf in 502.

PPTD is MAGIC -- makes your troubles float away like the seed pods of a dandelion floating in the wind

Sounds a lot like Mind Flayer snowflakes. They have all been put under a magic spell/drugged. The track Spellcaster plays in 409 when Vecna has Max pinned against the wall, and at the beginning of 505 during the Mac-Z recap.

You are dead Jonathan, you are so dead. PPTD is what you gotta do.

says Andale (hurry in Spanish)

Mike got a C in Spanish (401). Mike is always late.

403:

It was rubber wheels. Wheels aren't wood (or plastic) so ppl don't get hurt when they get smacked. Vicious roller skate attacks. If it was an ice skate, nose would have been sliced clean off.

Mike said he was like Bambi on ice. We're talking about wheels, so I'm obviously thinking about Mike. When Will sees the MF in S2, he feels frozen (scared). UD is frozen in time.

Roller Skate -- Rubber Wheels -> she'll be fine

Roller Skate -- Wooden Wheels -> she'll be hurt

Ice Skate -> nose sliced clean off

It's just a little blip in grand scheme (blip blip blip blip blip blip to tune of afro circus)

A blip could imply that it's insignificant and forgettable. Afro Circus? Reminds me of a certain someone's forgotten 8th birthday at the carnival. On the same day of Will's other forgotten birthday lol.

Jonathan likes risotto. Olive oil is wine.

Do eskimos still live in igloos? Or are they fully blown living in the suburbs.

Do they live in snow domes, or under cities -> Do they live in MF houses, or the UD -> Have those indigenous to the MF home fully moved to the Upside Down? That's the best I got.

404:

Pineapple on Pie: Try before you deny (comes from a can)

Fruit sealed shut. Everything else is fresh. Requires a can opener.

Pass the dutchie pon the left hand side. Give me the music make me jump and prance. Give me the music.

Music is a connection to the real world

Byers having a party and not inviting me that's not cool.

Argyle can't be in S5 b/c he sees the truth. He would ruin (fix) every scene b/c characters are constantly lying to each other.

405:

I don't think praying is gonna help that dude (St Mary's church)

Hopper was also in a church at the same time. Praying, luck and miracles are not going to save anyone (there are a LOT of explicit miracles/lucky breaks in S5). Jonathan meant St Mary's hospital not St Mary's church. I think this could mean that hospitals won't help either. Hawkins Memorial/General won't help Max, and it won't help the Wheelers. Other religious symbols in the show could apply.

Makes dead dude a headstone. Here lies unknown hero agent man, saved Argyle, Jonathan, Will and Mike from certain death. They're trying to hide the body, and Argyle says they're pretty common names. He makes the headstone with a pizza box.

The death was certain? Has someone seen the future? Argyle wasn't even in the house he was saved from nothing. In the same episode that Hopper mentions unknown agent orange chemicals he mixed with kitchen gloves.

Why is it necessary that this dude has a headstone -- to remember him? Also is agent orange -> agent nothing man? The flayed ate chemicals in S3. The agents are connected to the Nina Project. How are these agents and the Nina Project connected to the MF? Brenner?

Never Ending Story scared the shit out of him (as he plays with a yo-yo fuck me)

A yo-yo is like a loop. It unravels, and then returns to the hand controlling it. It's hard to see, b/c he yo-yo's right behind Mike. Oh Mike (Roller Rink "You spin me right round", Merry-go-round S5).

The Nothing Man is a formless antagonist that consumes the magical world of Fantasia. Well that's nice. Nothing Man = Shadow Monster. It should scare the shit out of us too.

406:

Argyle crushes on Eden, they smoke weed in the van

Something about utopia and psychedelics. And maybe gardens.

Nina Project is video game console (America's answer to Nintedo -- Japanese co.) called Americantendo

Merge worlds. Nina Project is about recovering lost memories and gifts. Results from the merging of worlds. Reminds me of Max being annoyed with Holly for making her call it Camazotz.

408:

Nina is a small woman hiding behind a small tree

Joyce (MF) is hiding behind MF snowflakes (purple palm TREE delight -> MF snowflakes).

Argyle finds tire track signs of life when looking for Nina. Look at the tread on these monsters.

409:

Can we ride in the baggage compartment (Mike says we would suffocate) dogs ride in there all the time, they don't suffocate

Cold area underneath main compartment -- UD. Demos ride there all the time. He wants us to travel underneath the plane (2-D surface). There is air underneath, we wouldn't suffocate. If there's no space upstairs, we can ride below. I'm thinking about the tunnels. They are used in S5, but I think Mike/Hopper will use them more to find the way out.

Mind fight, righteous. Gotta be clean to enter the mind.

Water cleans. No water in UD. Water is also a conduit for electricity, feelings, etc. Mike says it's about improving her signal. He disagrees with Argyle a lot. It could also mean clean morally like a clear head.

Need ice skate to slice nose clean off. A clean cut pizza requires a sharp blade, letting it cool, and applying even pressure. So if El is too heated then she can't enter the mind. So too much awesomeness CAN overpower (overheat) her battery. Cool!

Takes them to surfer boy pizza for 600 lbs of salt, uses pizza dough freezer. Calls surfer boy pizza a magical place.

Dough also means money.

We require the kitchen. gain access with PPTD trade

Hopper mixed agent orange with kitchen gloves

Too much awesomeness can't overpower your battery can it?

Force feeds pineapple pizza to Mike (Mike says he's not a dog)

fruit -> gay. They let dogs ride in the baggage compartment(UD) all the time. That looks like a chokehold. Mike needs to use the tunnels.

A memory within a memory

A play within a play.

I get we gotta hide Supergirl but this isn't exactly the fortress of solitude (he calls her Supergirl LOL b/c Mike called her superman)

They need to hide El in Fortress of Solitude (House of El -- LMAO). You can't enter unless you are also from the House of El. It's an ice fortress. I think the Ice skate vs. Roller skate could also be about El's World vs. this World.

Argyle gathers mushrooms in the woods. Argyle disappears around the same time that the snowflakes fall.

DEREK

Let’s talk about Derek. They drugged all the Turnbows, but he's the only one who woke up.

I would say that Derek is rather enlightened. I would actually say Derek is ridiculously enlightened. He seems to know what's up and he's the only person in both Mike and Holly's storyline (which are the same).

He's SEEN what's coming?? Derek is RIGHT.ON.THE.MONEY every single time. He knows shit.

He knows that Joyce is an evil kidnapper

He knows who Mr. Whatsit is

He knows that Joyce and the others have his family

He knows that Holly doesn't trust Mr. Whatsit

He knows that Henry is not their friend

He knows what happens at Mac-Z.

I mean this dude has TRUTH. He's seen the light as in both Holly’s Camazotz and Mike's Camazotz. True fucking sight. Ethereal plane my dude. He’s caught between 2 slides.

After Derek wakes up, he becomes Delightful Derek. As in Purple Palm Tree DELIGHT.

The Delight is the MF particles, it takes away all your worries. The cult of children said Back to the Light, but Mr. Whatsit also switched light and dark. In this instance the light is actually the dark. Derek needs to a dipshit.

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Will pulling Mike onto his lap during the shootout gets me every time 💀

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Here’s a thought about the CG release 🧠

The First Shadow will be releasing on Netflix. It’s super important to the canon story…but that doesn’t mean everyone will watch it. A lot of the General Audience don’t care if it’s not the original cast & story.

Unless…

…the next Season is unlocked ONLY by watching The First Shadow.

A play within a play. Bandersnatchgate, Retrieving the lost tape - whichever approach they choose, it’s all the same.

The new content cannot be seen until you reach the end of The First Shadow. Until you look “behind the curtain.”

That’s how I would release it anyway 😏

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Stranger Things 5 Meta: Plot & Promo

Ummm if you don’t like CG in the sense that we’re getting more episodes or don’t believe in it really resist the urge to comment 🫶🏻 or even read 🫶🏻 don’t think you’ll like this 🫶🏻😛

This is using the dates of Coke Gate for speculation of an announcement or drop of some kind. About 8 months from when the show came out, and 8 Episodes. I’ve kinda been thinking the promo/commentary/general meta has some interesting parallels with some of the plot points of the show. Please enjoy!

Chapter 1: The Crawl (Nov & Dec)

- starts with WSQK (WSQK comes to our world)

- hype still high for the season

- people talking about it highly

Chapter 2: The Vanishing of Holly Wheeler (Dec & Jan)

- Vecna’s plan gets confusing, why Holly? Why not Mike? What are they doing with this show? Wasn’t it supposed to be GOOD?

- The finale being mad, making no sense, disrupting what we thought we understood

- Jokes about the ‘Vanishing of the Duffer Brothers’

- The Duffer Brothers do some weird interviews then THEY disappear

- Finn on SNL for one of his last appearances relating to ST

- The Vanishing of Finn Wolfhard

- Jamie Campbell Bower goes on Jimmy Kimmel hints at CG but it’s fake alas (we’re trapped with Holly), so does Sadie Sink, and Nell (all people IN Camazotz)

Chapter 3: The Turnbow Trap (Jan & Feb)

- We THINK we know what we’re doing, we have no clue (this one is hard for me)

- @itswhatyougive THE SUPERBOWL TRAP

- Derek Turnbow and who remembers MAYO GATE PLEASE!!!!!!!

Chapter 4: Sorcerer (Feb & March)

- Peak Gay, peak Byler

- Byler wins AO3 ship of the year

- Noah wins GLAAD award for Sorcerer

Chapter 5: Shock Jock (March & April)

- Uh oh, particles are released from Demo into the rest of the Hawkins! Something Very Bad Is Going to happen as a result!

- People REALLY starting to lose hope, don’t know what’s going on

- Cons are so confusing, what they all say about the show is confusing. Noah says Mike would’ve explored if he confessed BOOM same Episode Will gets knocked out omg right before he can

Chapter 6: Escape From Camazotz (April & May)

- Okay, they (we) think we’re learning and we’re SO close

- Boroughs & Tales from 85 but it’s still confusing and hard to understand

- Duffer Brothers FINALLY make some appearances, are cryptic not unlike Vecna or idk Will when he wakes up!?

Chapter 7: The Bridge (May & June)

- All of the ST Emmy nomination stuff, Noah seems really upset about Byler not happening

- The Boroughs kind of acting like a ‘Bridge’ between some of our theories and relating it back to Stranger Things

- Duffer Brothers still coming back but maybe not entirely, same time we see Mike being more and more confused and weird and more characters being like this doesn’t make any sense

- El reunites with the gang (Millie talks about ST again) but reveals she’s going to kill herself (El died, the promo was a funeral for her)

- Will’s coming out, he basically implies that he doesn’t need Mike anymore. Just a few weeks (hours ago!?) he was still talking about it!!!

- There’s still so much more to learn wdym we have 3 fucking seasons of tales now!?

- Also, David Harbour showing back up!

Chapter 8: The Rightside Up (June & July)

- The PLAY coming up (plz play come out in June I’m a TFS in June truther idc 😪)

- The Tower Scene - Will saying he needed to find his own way, Noah saying Will deserves better than Mike and NO BYLER. Byler? No thanks, no Byler.

- What does Mike realize right before the end? Maybe the same thing Finn will explore in his album, coming out the day before July 11th/New Coke announcement

- BACK to the Rightside Up

Let me know if you have anything I can add because like … I’d love to flesh it out more!

Where we are right now: end of The Bridge/ going into The Rightside Up. Please see the following post that I made that started this train of thought!

💬 12 🔁 2 ❤️ 22 · Holy shit jealous Mike is about to be SO fucking canon 😭🏳️‍🌈 Noah, please ✋ you literally just said you wanted Will to d

@misspracticallydelulu I know you’ve talked about marketing lmk if you have any thoughts !!

is it even worth it if eddie doesn’t return??

#I MISS HIM SM IT’S NOT FUNNY #eddie munson #stranger things #conformitygate #conformitygate theory #lovewinsgate

lavenderlatte222

Just thinking about “the silver cat feeds”. I always read "feeds" as a verb, but thinking about it as a noun, “feed” can refer to a video feed.

Also, since "SilverCatFeeds" is associated with a computer program:

"cat" is a computer command. It is short for "concatenate", which means "to link or join things together in a series or chain". In the context of video, it would mean taking separate clips and joining them together so they appear as one continuous video. (Heavy emphasis on appear. Dr. Brenner clearly made some continuity errors.)

I'm also thinking "silver" could refer to a mirror, since silver was traditionally used in mirrors.

Like, whatever video feed we are being fed is a reflection of reality, but a distorted one.

reminder that s5 is the fakest thing in the history of the universe and everything will be revealed eventually

#the cg hopes and doubts come in waves like mood swings #stranger things #conformitygate #conformitygate theory #lovewinsgate #stranger things 5 #st5

anotherjlynn

Mike is visiting Will, right?

seiul1221

If the creature can see the souls of animals.

blueyellowsilvercat

Ok but... what

I’m sure we all know of the Stranger Things and Tangled parallels between Max and Eugene’s deaths…

Keeping this in mind:

El = Repunzel (Repunzel can heal people and bring them back to life, and El can do the same as we know. This reminded me of what Owens said to El in S4, about her being “the cure”. I wonder where they will go with that).

Hopper = Mother Gothel (?)

El isn’t really Hopper’s child just as Repunzel isn’t Gothel’s. El and Repunzel are “trapped” in their homes.

So if Hopper is Gothel, and maybe the ST writers took more inspo from Tangled, what could that mean for his future? I, and a few people on here, do think Hopper has a secret, and perhaps a dark one at that.

#stranger things #conformitygate #conformitygate theory #lovewinsgate #st analysis #stranger things analysis #jim hopper #el hopper #jane hopper #jane el hopper

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