hand jumperrr more fast pass spoilers,,,, and more stupid rambling
i just freaking remembered. if sayeon n ryujin going to meet wolhye oh my What if she uses her despair field on them..,....... ohhhhhohohohohohohohoohohohohoh punches my wall... sayeon despair(basically the entirety of hj). ryujin despair...🤧🤧🤧
i imagine wolhye would only catch them in the field by accident somehow. cause i can;t imagine she'd use her gift on sayeon On purpose... samin would actually flip her fuckin shit then. she's probably gonna flip regardless tbh. curious whats gonna happen when min tells her... if he does at all...
im sooo scared about what her relics gift is... the portal(?) opening looks a lot like when sayeon was in the well with the godling... hmmmm. and alsoo i see that at the end, wolhye is, inverted? hmmmmmm. i don't have any useful things to say about these observations but by god do i freakin see them...
also i'd like to see what ryujin makes of sayeon bashing her damn head. along with the scar. and literally everything else
just noticed ryujin and that dude she knew who used to work with the begonias i forgot the name of both have a scar on their shoulder. Which Could Mean Nothing...
wanna hang out [remembers it's rude to put expectations on people] it's cool if not [remembers people like to know they're wanted] but I'd really like it if you did [remembers selfishness is bad] we can do whatever you want though [remembers that handing someone a blank canvas isn't as effective as providing a suggestion to bounce ideas off of] like sucking each others fingers for example
Penitent - Is a person who feels deep regret for a wrong committed.
In a religious context it is a person that repents for their sin, and in Roman Catholic tradition it is someone who confesses their sin to the priest and is tasked with a penance (task/devotion performed voluntarily to show sorrow for a sin) by the priest. This “Sacrament of Penance/Reconciliation” is meant to remove eternal guilt and sin. They then receive forgiveness from God. As we know guilt is a huge theme in Hand Jumper, especially for Sayeon (and Ryujin too).
Curious about this possible religious context too, since other titles in the webcomic like "purgatory" are also connected to Catholic theology (there are possibly other religious allegories in other places too). The episode "Purgatory" is also connected to Sayeon and Ryujin’s guilt; how they cannot forgive themselves so they remain in “purgatory” .
Pairing this with @autistic-elf’s great theory post on Sayeon possibly receiving the Penitent Relic from Wolhye. I found the words “accept her emotions and humanity ” in the post especially interesting, since “self-examination” is meant to be the first step in the “Sacrament of Penance/Reconciliation”. That she will allow herself to feel penitence which may lead to penance? Which might lead to forgiveness of some kind? However, I know this story is likely going to be a tragedy of some kind so I feel like there might be some complications in this healing. The episode 112 title "Guilt will save the world" has always interested me too though, and what would "save" mean?
This is just a random thought, but I find it interesting how important Father Hope seems to be in this arc (we see him with Jinhee, Rarog mentions him and we know he is involved with the Cult of Naj too). He is a priest (though a fake one). I kind of wonder if it’s possible for him to task Sayeon with a penance? idk just a thought.
Anyway, let's properly start!
Is it Samin! Baby Samin!!
Hmm she’s just casually walking along the rail? Does essence help with balance too, or is she just so sure even at this age she could survive a fall from there?
She's holding a red paper plane hmm. Paper Planes can symbolize "youthful innocence" and letting one go can represent "chasing a dream".
A red one could represent that that "youthful innocence" is stained maybe?
Oohhhhh so Wolhye did know Samin!! This means she probably knew Sayeon too, right?
Hmm was she about to say Auclair casually at first? Before deciding to add Miss? Because of familiarity? And to try and add some distance?
She does not seem happy to see her.
If the Sea Wolves already tried to take Samin and Sayeon under their wings, only for Samin to disagree, then this must be after Sara's death, right?
I still wonder how Samin looked after Sayeon during this time? She's so small, and it would be a big responsibility to look after someone who is only 4 years old. That’s not even going into how she looked after herself.
Also what about money and everything like that? I guess there could be an inheritance and Samin might already be gaining money in the underworld too? Though she’s so young 😭
I also wonder about the government too? We know Sayeon went to school so she must have been in the system, right? They had Sayeon down as an orphan too I think? How did no one show up to investigate her? Did the Sea Wolves help forge some kind of story so the government didn't look into it?
Did Samin go to school too? Or is she not in the system? She kind of looks like she is wearing a school uniform here with the bag, but I'm not sure? It kind of looks like casual wear too?
Was little Sayeon left on her own too? Samin couldn't always be home, right? Like right now it looks like sunset, so Sayeon would be home from any kind of schooling she might have, right? Is little Sayeon home alone right now?
I could understand not wanting the Sea Wolves involved, but why the anger towards Wolhye too? Just because she is also a member?
Wait "Auntie"... Is that the word Samin almost called Wolhye before?
It's interesting that even though Samin seemed to be afraid of her mother, she is still so angry that she died and is angry at people that could have prevented it. I guess emotions are complex like that, even if she was afraid she still probably loved her mom too. It could also be a bit of a security thing too? If Sara was alive would people leave Sayeon and Sara alone? There would also be a little less responsibility on Samin alone?
Also I mentioned earlier how Samin was just casually walking on the rail. Could it be showing her mental state a little bit? That even though Sayeon is relying on her now, that she would take an unnecessary risk (even if the risk is minimal for an aberrant?)?
Wolhye looks so sad 😭
Hmm also the placement and color of the speech bubble is kind of interesting? It's right behind Wolhye's head, is it to symbolize this thought is also stuck in Wolhye's head?
Such a pretty green. A rather rare color to see in this comic (without it being connected to green essence). I wonder could you mean something?
Sara seemed to really care for Wolhye too? Or seemed to be softer to her?
“No one can tell the future”
Why would you say that when you live in a world with people who have magical gifts! Did you never question what Sara's gift might be!? The person “who is never wrong”?
Also I already strongly suspected Sara’s gift was some kind of “future sight”, and this seems to confirm it even further I think?
I kind of find it interesting that the number starts at 3 too? The number that Sayeon currently is in the Corps? And the last number shown is 10, the highest level you can attain in the Corps? Hmm honestly I didn't think we would see Sayeon become a level 10, since I thought the series would end before then (e.g. Sayeon would achieve her "goal" in another way), however this makes me wonder? 🤔
Bwhahah Samin is so blunt.
Oh Oohh I know everyone in the fandom was joking about Wolhye's crush on Sara, but was Wolhye actually in love with Sara. I guess that's why Wolhye reminisces so much on Sara and the kids (besides the story needing exposition).
I wonder what Sara thought about Wolhye? Earlier I said it seemed like she cared, but I wonder how much? Hmm I think others have mentioned too, but Wolhye and Ryujin seem like they might have a similar role to their respective Lee? Sara and Sayeon lost their husband/love interest, but then they were able to lean on their female "friend"?
Oh the "trust" word again. We know this word is important to the story. Sayeon always wants people to trust her, and just recently we got a confirmation that Sayeon trusts Ryujin.
It's interesting to see Sara use the word too. Hmm well Sayeon originally got the word from Samin, when Samin told her to "just trust her". I wonder if Samin originally got that saying from Sara maybe?
I also wonder why thematically Sleepy makes "trust" a big thing in the story? I wonder where it's leading us?
Green background again. What does it represent?
I wonder if it's saying even if you trust someone you should still not let them decide everything themselves or something? 🤔
She was wearing brighter clothes but is now wearing black mourning clothes.
Her shoes were red, to symbolize she was part of the Lee family in a way? Since all Lee's have a red item? However now she isn't?
Also in another episode didn't Sayeon recently think about Ahn with blue shoes very similar to this? Is the blue and red shoes meant to show a foil between them in some way?
Hmm I feel like this scene could mean something? Samin is on the rail, a dividing line? She has the sun directly behind her.
One hand is holding the paper plane which might mean "innocence", though a stained one? However she's holding onto it over the ledge, but not throwing it (not making a dream?)? Then on the other side she has a pink band aid on her knee, which makes me think of Jaeil and his pink band aid? The one he got from Sayeon? So maybe it symbolizes love? Which is on the bridge side? The safer side?
For Sayeon will Samin take risks and stain her innocence?
"My sun, my star" Yeah sad lover girl.
Also if Sara is "the sun" then I kind of find the placement of the sun interesting in the above image (Samin) too. To say she is "watching over them" e.g. Sara's plan is in action?
That is the question, isn't it? What is her plan?
Ohh so that's why she hasn't been around.
And there's that famous saying too "Debts owed, debts paid". Another Wolhye & Ryujin parallel?
Wolhye is using it more as an excuse to do what she wants to do anyway; to help Samin and Sayeon. Just like how Ryujin might have partly used it as an excuse to return to Sayeon in ep 71?
Oh it's sad to see what could have been.
Wolhye really trying to step up. She basically offering to adopt them.
Also Samin is holding the paper plane in the other hand here? The safe side? The bridge side?
Oh interesting it used to be Sara's Relic? Or..
Is it possible it could have originally have been Doyeon's Relic? Wolhye didn’t seem to have the Relic in the flashback in episode 112 (when Wolhye and Sara were visiting Doyeon’s grave). We know Doyeon likely had a Relic too (though in episode 1 it looked like it was a ring… is it possible for Relics to change its resting form too?). However, the fact that Doyeon’s grave was shown at all in episode 112 “Guilt will save the world” possibly points to this theory even more? To show Wolhye and Doyeon had a connection?
Hmm… Furthermore, I have heard a theory that he might have even killed himself and that is why Wolhye said “Doyeon was too kind for this sh!thole planet. That’s why he left, I think”. A Relic like this that seems to feed off your sadness or guilt, having to experience those emotions constantly to fight would surely start to affect your mind, right?
If true, it would also answer a question I've had since reading episode 58 too. Why was the funeral smoke purple? Is it because a purple-essence Relic was the reason for his death?
This might also be why Samin is so angry that Wolhye has it? Samin seemed to really love her dad, so to see someone else have it could hurt her even more?
Also could add some interesting symbolism if the Relic does somehow get passed down to Sayeon too?
Idk just a thought. I’ll need to see more, and this would go against another theory I had that Han might have Doyeon’s Relic ring? Though the only reason I thought of that theory was that they both likely have/had ring Relics (+ Sara killed Lt. Baek's daughter and there was a theory I heard where it might have been in retribution for Doyeon's death, meaning if Doyeon did have a Relic then the Corps might have it).
She only 11, but she scary.
I kind of get it, but I'm still surprised how much Samin seemed to hate Wolhye? Is she just taking her anger out?
And we are back to the present.
I find it so interesting that the Relic has the form of a Scythe. There is a lot of possible symbolism to that.
Wow so activating the Relic makes it rain? That's pretty crazy. Rain for tears?
So Relics are made directly from godlings. I've had that thought before, but the episode where we saw it being gifted made me question that theory. I suppose tears are still part of the godling though? Or there might be more to that story? If tears are what the Relic is made from then it is not necessarily only bones, but just parts of the body then that can be made into Relics?
I also wondered if godling blood then could be turned into a "Relic"? I've had a crazy thought/theory for awhile that Ryujin might mix her blood with a godling (with Lilith?)? Since it seemed like Raon might have been able to control Bones's blood when she mixed it with his? (huh his name being Bones feels interesting in this context too..). Idk just another of my random thoughts.
Huh it's also very interesting to learn that the size of the Relic effects the power of the Relic... What if you have the entire godling then? So Lilith really can be turned into "a weapon of destruction" (ep 53).
I've had a terrible thought and wondered could aberrants be turned into Relics?
Yes! Confirmation that the Relics have color types like the aberrants, and that effects what the "usage condition" is?
I wonder if the same godling can give out different essence color Relics? @queenxfirefly theory is that since godlings have white essence (all colors into one) they might be able to create champions of every essence color. If so, then could the same godling make different essence color Relics too?
Ha so it was connected to the godling Selume! Interesting!! I heard this theory in the Webtoon comment section a few episodes ago and thought it matched, however when it was revealed that Wolhye's Relic was a Scythe and not a sword (like we were shown) I had my doubts, but this confirms it is!
Hmm I wonder then if the weapons form can change depending on the user then? Or were we only shown the sword because it was a story, in other words because Jinhee didn't know and she was telling the story then we weren't shown the truth? It shows we can't always trust what we are shown then..
Also interesting to learn that the Relic is called Penitent.
Welp that doesn't look good for Snake. I don't see her coming back from that..
Is this maybe why the Well Godling only mentioned Wolhye in it's warning to Sayeon? Since everyone else is so below her threat level?
The others might arrive soon to though. Butcher, Minnie and Ishaan - I wonder what will happen?
