idk what exclusionist jackass needs to hear this today but no amount of you taking out your weird little frustrations on ace people is going to make cishets accept you any more you fucking bootlicker
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idk what exclusionist jackass needs to hear this today but no amount of you taking out your weird little frustrations on ace people is going to make cishets accept you any more you fucking bootlicker
2019-06-15
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To any self proclaimed aphobic/exclusionist ace discourser who needs this : You are contributing 0% to the upliftment and betterment of lgbtqa community by harassing bullying and mocking ace people and their identity
aces forcing ourselves back in the closet to avoid The Discourse
One reason that I am so passionate about aromantic and asexual people being included in discussions about the queer community is because we are so few in number.
It is so gosh darn difficult to find other ace and aro people irl. We’re a small community that mostly connects through the internet because we are a small percentage of the population and not that many people know about us yet. So, most of the support we get irl is from gay, bi/pan, and trans people. Not other ace and aro people.
I have two irl asexual friends now, but for the first six years I was out as ace I had none. Maybe an online person here or there, but no physical presence. Nobody to eat lunch with or vent to or hug when things got bad. Instead, the support I got was from my gay and bi friends. They supported me, and I supported them in return. The very first person I ever came out as asexual to was a gay guy I was friends with at the time.
He was there for me and I was there for him in return. He was relieved to find out I was ace actually, because that made me another queer person he could talk to. And soon after I connected with several bi and pan people at my high school. We were able to stand up for each other, get things done, relate to each other.
Including ace and aro people in the queer community means giving ace and aro people a support system. A safe space. An opportunity to relate and be related to. To love and be loved. To protect and be protected. When you’re already included by default it’s easy to sit in your leather wing backed chair in your ivory tower and say “Well these people should just form their own community.” but in reality that just doesn’t work.
Ace and aro people will always have their own community, yes. But also lesbians will have their own community. Trans people will have their own community. Gay men will have their own community, bi people, pan people, non binary people, the list goes on. But all the people in those communities can form one super group that relates, that supports each other. That unites under the umbrella of “not totally cis and hetero at the same time”.
It’s a support system that ace and aro people desperately need. We have bad and good experiences because of our orientation, many of which other queer people can relate to. We see the rest of the community and go “Same hat!!!” and feel a little less alone. And yeah. That includes heteroromantic aces and heterosexual aros. They need that support too, because believe it or not, heteronormative society isn’t kind to them either. They understand a lot more than you think. They’re not trying to join because it’s trendy. They get that same hat feeling just like you and I.
Don’t be rude in the notes please. I won’t be debating.
Quick Q: how do you usually search someone’s blog for their views on the ace disk hoarse? Asking for a friend who’s me wants to know who’s cool and who’s not
Oh that’s easy! I just use the lil search function on people’s blogs for “ace” “discourse” and sometimes “asexual” if I don’t find something. Usually something exclusionary (or really supportive) will pop up since most people have a stance on The Disk Horse. Your general exclusie dog whistles are talking about “cishets” which of course just refers to cisgender heterosexuals but a lot of the time people who use it are referring to ‘cishet aces’ who are the ones exclusionists have a problem with (they’re lgbt, deal with it exclusies).
You also get some talk about aces being cringey or childish or whatever because sometimes we like to have fun and say things like the whole cake/dragons thing people flooded the ace dis/course tag with a while ago (which is totally valid and honestly it’s something every part of the lgbtq+ soup does!). This is just straight up aphobia and 99% of the time I won’t follow them unless they’ve shown they’ve become a bit more open minded after posts like these.
I hope this helps you dear friend, it’s a tough world out there for us aspecs!!
edit: there’s also a subtle difference in “I support aces/aros as lgbt+ people” and “I support aces/aros but they’re not inherently lgbt+” and sometimes it takes a bit more digging to see which side they’re on because that’s another common exclusionist excuse!!
The latest Marvel movie has packed out cinemas across the globe.
This guy is my friend. I used to work with him. He’s incredibly good at his job and so much fun to work with and he COLLAPSED last night because he was so overworked from the release of Endgame.
He says it’s because the place was chronically understaffed and if I know my old managers I know he’s 100% right. I’m so angry at his mistreatment that I’m not sure what my point is here but one thing I want to say: the public can’t help it if a company mistreats their staff but you can make their job easier.
If you’re ever going to a cinema, clean up after yourself and others. The mess in cinemas after a film is DISGUSTING and “it’s their job” is NOT justification for making someone’s job harder. Take your fucking popcorn box with you and put it in a bin. It’s easier to take a corridor bin out than it is to go row by row for 20 minutes picking up every plastic bottle and crisp packet. I don’t care if there’s a little message at the beginning that says “leave your rubbish!” because I am telling you from personal experience and on behalf of every cinema worker who is contractually forbidden from talking shit about their employers: don’t fucking leave your shit behind and make a minimum wage worker’s job 10x harder.
Endgame made well over a billion dollars in week 1 but do you realise that this is off the back of overworked underpaid cinema workers around the world?
I just saw endgame and
not a spoiler I promise, I’m just gay, but
THE WOMEN
OH GOD THE WOMEN
ThE WoMENNN
idk can we stop…treating a.ce disc.ourse like it’s some haha funney cringe compilation or whatever the fuck because it fucking destroyed the entire ace and aro communities. there is no solid aspec community on tumblr anymore (which was by far the biggest number of aspec ppl). exclusionists took our community and fucking smashed it to pieces and y'all treat it as this fucking stupid joke when they traumatized, gaslit, and abused an entire group of queer people back into the closet. fuck every single person who doesn’t take that seriously.
My personal experience is just that, but it’s really indicative that I have watched almost every single ace and aro person I know, irl and online, actively recloset themselves as a direct result of the consequences of The Disc Horse™
I watched irl queer groups disintegrate bc a few ppl who got into leadership positions used that to make the space hostile towards ace ppl (among others as well), saw friends go from being loud and proud aces n aros to actively avoiding any mention of it and letting ppl assume their sexuality. I myself, having been IDing as ace for 10 years at least, have in the past couple since this whole “"discourse”“ came into being, actively and intentionally stopped telling anyone at all that I’m ace. To put that in some kind of perspective, I am incredibly out as trans and will actively out myself pretty constantly except to total strangers I will never see again. I feel safer telling ppl I’m trans than ace. Especially in queer spaces. It’s fucked me up so much I didn’t even quite grasp how much but today my therapist asked me for the first time about like romantic relationships and I physically could not say I am aro and ace. Completely incapable, utterly frozen, and I just kinda let her believe what she will. Ironically the fact that I’ve gone from being willing and ready to tell ppl I’m ace as just another facet of myself to entirely unable and unsolicited to tell anyone, is probably a thing one might want to talk w one’s therapist about.
This has really fucked not just the community at large but fucked up individual ace ppl in so many ways. It’s not something “funny” or remotely harmless, it’s absolutely devastated us.
I reblogged this only a couple of days ago when this hand only 2k-ish notes.Now this has 10k notes FULL of ace , aro and aroace people talking about how much the “ace discourse” emotionally and mentally traumatized them and how so many of them stopped coming out as ace even among their most lgbtqa friendly peers and groups and its just SO SO heartbreaking to read.
The ace discourse has been going on here for around 3 years now with no signs of stopping considering of how many excusionist and aphobic ace discourse keep popping up here and 99% of them are just really horrible people who keep bullying,harassing and mocking ace people as a form of “discourse”
Ace discourse hasnt made ANYONE feel safe in the lgbtqa community except people who are as much of a bully towards ace people as aphobes are and has just created a huge divide among the community bc many lgbtqa ACE people too feel like they cant trust other lgbtqa people non ace people since they might turn out to be aphobic.
I hope anyone who has EVER contributed to this disgusting agenda against the existence of ace people reads this and realizes how they have only played the part of the bullies and bigots they hated in schools and societies, towards ace people and have contributed to the unsafeness and self hatred ace people feel for being ace.
No matter how many “hot takes” people write with as many leftist buzzwords and masterpost aphobes make ,ace people arent EVER going to stop existing.Its their LIVES and not some internet identity they make up so all this harassment of ace people is only EVER going to make ace people hide themselves not erase themselves.
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spring cleaning!!! unfollow me if youre a terf, homophobic, biphobic, islamophobic, dont agree w the black lives matter movement
also unfollow if your’e an antisemite, and just racist in general
Also unfollow me if you call asexual people “cishets,” bisexual people dating someone of a different gender “bihets,” or nonbinary people or trans people who don’t have dysphoria “transtrenders.” Bye
Just seen someone’s hot take that pansexuality is wrong and not valid because it’s transphobic to specifically call your attraction trans inclusive. You fool, all attractions are trans inclusive. This isn’t what pan-ness tries to achieve anyway, and it definitely isn’t a slap in the face to bisexuality because the two are functionally the same, it just basically comes down to personal preference. Pan isn’t some kind of “woke bi” and no actual decent pan folks are trying to call it that, you’ve just encountered some kind of internet twat who professes this and you’ve taken it to be the blanket stance on the pan/bi definition ‘discourse’
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