it is called that actually

Shipped joyce/becky in the early/mid 2010s She/her, white, in the imperial core. 🏳️‍⚧️🇵🇸

[sistersorrow]

Remember when Lucy called Joyce the "Bisexual version of [her]?"

Also, TV Tropers editors work fast

[dumbingofage]

Ruth!

[stormtide-leviathan]

I don't think jason is trans, but i do think he's emminently forcefeminizeable

[smartingofage]

Being forced to learn about a show I've had no interest has been a lark

It's sweet to see kids get really insane about art. One of the best things about life. May a thousand fandomites bloom.

Wow I am too old for this. That's a new feeling.

Trans women characters that are pieces of shit and hurt the people around them exist to make non-trans-women (and, honestly, other trans women) empathise with us at our worst so you see us as actual human beings all the time and not just when we're convenient quiet palatable people pleasers. this is a personal test that you will be taking for the rest of your life, and many will fail.

[smartingofage]

"too old" is probably the wrong way to say this. I know how the art sausage is art made. I look into this and all I see and the decisions made and I go "yeah I see what's up here." like a builder admiring someone else's work on a different site.

[smartingofage]

Being forced to learn about a show I've had no interest has been a lark

It's sweet to see kids get really insane about art. One of the best things about life. May a thousand fandomites bloom.

Wow I am too old for this. That's a new feeling.

Trans women characters that are pieces of shit and hurt the people around them exist (when we make them) to make non-trans-women (and, honestly, other trans women) empathise with us at our worst so you see us as actual human beings all the time and not just when we're convenient quiet palatable people pleasers. this is a personal test that you will be taking for the rest of your life, and many will fail.

[dorothykeener-expertlesbian]

[queenofsodor]

i can't believe mx. willis would put joynk and dorpy frotting on-screen and uncensored in today's comic

[smartingofage]

Haha yes. DISCOMFORT AND DIFFICULTY!

[smartingofage]

I'm not a sufficiently committed shipper that I wouldn't find Joyce cheating on Dotty with Joe to be an ultimate big brain "the cheating arc hasn't ended yet" play btw.

[smartingofage]

Yeah I'm pro poly joyce outcome: I hope she ends up sleeping with more women.

[she-who-is-two-sizes-too-big]

The Dumbing of Age comment section has a problem where they keep expecting characters to act as vehicles for their own opinions and get shocked and angry when the characters actually have perspectives and opinions that actually line up with their characterization instead.

They got mad when Joe reacted to Joyce and Dorothy with empathy and understanding instead of a Le Epic Takedown. And now they're getting mad that Jocelyne is...happy that her younger sister is no longer repressing her queerness?

Jocelyne does not know Joe. She has no reason to care about him. From her perspective Joe is just Some Guy that Joyce has been seeing for, like, a few weeks at most. Like she said, those kinds of casual relationships are a dime-a-dozen in college. Her exposure to Dorothy, meanwhile, has been Dorothy almost exclusively acting in service of their shared political goals in opposition to the genocide of Bulmeria.

[transhuman-priestess]

the way teenagers are treated these days is wild. when i was a teenager we were all watching porn, jerking off, and going to horror movies with 3000 gallons of blood. Nowadays they make kids get a permission slip to watch anything darker than Barney the Dinosaur. Insane.

[transhuman-priestess]

Every year we infantilize teenagers more and more and act surprised when they grow up to be terrified, angry, emotionally stunted adults.

[genderkoolaid]

& then for some reason people fixate more on "ugh these teenagers just want to be treated like babies!!! teenagers are to blame for the rise in puritanism!!!!!" than how this is a very obvious example of ageism and the increased control over a socially vulnerable and exploited group

[absolxguardian]

I think a commonly overlooked part of this coddling is that it teaches kids and teenagers to be afraid of things they don't need to be afraid of, which is exactly how they end up as "puriteens". I remember as a child being terrified to change the channel on the tv because I had ended up with the impression that seeing even seconds of an R rated movie or tv show would give me nightmares. And then as a tween every time I saw swearing I felt sick to my stomach because I had been taught such a thing is bad and harmful. I think I would have suffered less if I hadn't been raised with everyone around me acting like mature media was so bad. By the time I was a teenager I had figured out this was bunk, but understandably a lot of people don't. By making this whole system worse and stronger you have teens who have been told that seeing explicit or dark media Will Harm Them, and so they act in ways that would be appropriate if it really was the info-hazard it's implied to be.

[headspace-hotel]

^^ never heard anybody specifically talk about this but yeah. parents acting like sexual or any "dark" content in a story or show was going to put bad things in my head that were going to be there permanently just gave me a deeply distressing sort of contamination anxiety

[smartingofage]

Lot of people being like "please the doa comments section is where I found so much safety and community. By being some of the most toxic webcomic comment sections outside of, and overlapping with, reddit." fucking hell.

[nonbinary-jakey]

taking away a clowngirl's makeup telling her she doesn't have to be a clown she can just be a normal silly billy and correcting her any time she tries to juggle until she gets sadder and sadder and eventually stops talking altogether and just communicating via gestures and realizing with horror you've created a mimegirl

[nonbinary-jakey]

you get it

[smartingofage]

Best of luck to the new comments section moderator. I love her already.

[smartingofage]

Doa

[smartingofage]

Pressing X rapidly to skip the joe panels.