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I'm here to be maximally delusional in brainstorming possible future SydCarmy plots

[celestysbrasil]

They started a family, just as Carmy said they would

Before

1x1

1x8

After

5x8

[keikomivra]

THE BEAR (2022 - 2026) 5.06: Focaccia

[sonoranbumblebee]

She needs him just as much as he needs her. You can't spend your whole life screaming alone because you think your reason for screaming is yours alone to bear and that no one wants to help you or cares that you're in pain. He hears her calling out and is there in a flash and wants to be there with her as long as she'll tolerate.

[sonoranbumblebee]

Sydcarmy is so powerful that they canonically created a family and raised children together and run a family restaurant before they even kissed. You will never convince me that the TV show The Bear is anything but a mere fragment of their lifelong commitment to each other.

[greymvs]

set: do not separate

[lightlyotherworldlycreator]

Coco being the invisible cat in Copenhagen just like Coco storer is invisible force behind the food in The Bear Very cute very cute.

[sonoranbumblebee]

Also, Coco Storer has a dog named Bear

[jing5]

sydcarmy in charcoal :’)

[paverics]

“my father is a boy and my mother is a girl so i’m mixed” is the funniest possible response to someone asking your gender and it came from 6’5 Viking footballer and notable weird little guy Erling Haaland on a Snapchat

[sonoranbumblebee]

What is he talking about ? Whose do I need to kick? Who's fuckin w my boys?

[lesamis]

[microsuedemouse]

the way Carmy asks Syd to come to the Ever funeral. the way he insists, as if it’s such a good opportunity for her. brother is still actively spiralling about the breakup with Claire and yet he can’t convince himself to do a single fucking thing without Sydney. he wants her there for everything. what the fuck, man. I’m normal I’m normal I’m normalllll

[sonoranbumblebee]

So the song that plays in the Richie-Tiff scene when they're at the park w Evie in the same episode?

I am not asking salvation from you

I'm just asking to be saved for awhile

It's mostly keyed to the divorced couple, but there's a couple of lines that are so yearning that I can't help but think there's a suggested connection to SydCarmy too.

[sonoranbumblebee]

Carmy's "I failed you guys...it's not gonna happen again" kicked-puppy face 🤝 Donna is outside ranting out how much she loves her kids and she's so proud of them and she wants them to have this one good thing that she doesn't hurt 🤝 Syd-Richie-Tina-Marcus-Nat-Fak-Sweeps being so proud and honored to come together and get it done for Carmy (whom they entirely adore)

Bonus:

Lee: "You're real sensitive and you're real intense, just like your ma."

Carmy: "I AM NOT SENSITIVE AND INTENSE THAT IS BULLSHIT how dare you?!"

[terumisunxah]

they are so so adorable im angry

[sonoranbumblebee]

1. Rage. 2. Taken aback and a little heartbroken.

Friend is the bare minimum status he can tolerate from her without becoming a criminally insane menace who literally even Sugar would wash her hands of and be like "bro this is not ok."

[notthebear]

he's so open and vulnerable and noble, and insistent even when he's being hurt, to be an advocate for her and to be acknowledged by her

it's glorious. i want them to be happy and healthy and i don't want pain for them but my god this is outstanding and compelling.

he's baring his teeth. he's yelling but like...the octave change, the force, the escalation. he still has body language where one shoulder is leaning toward her, and he's even stepping toward her; but one shoulder is square with that door. and when someone does come through the door, his body is returning to neutral to address the disturbance even if his voice is still echoing out- even if he hasn't finished talking yet. when the fight continues and his body language shifts she's, as always, shielded by him

the rage. if they ever are in danger of a breakup or have a fight where carmy thinks she's trying to end their romantic partnership, he would be dismayed and upset to THIS degree

you're my partner- and he's like don't ever undermine me or what we are to each other. it's not i thought i was xyz, he's like...telling her, not asking her, about their status.

that was a boundary she crossed!

[sonoranbumblebee]

He's such a bum (I love him) because yes they are best friends but she is also 100 percent right that he does not act like her friend.

* Absolutely refuses to lay a hand on her but everyone else at least gets awkward shoulder rubs

* He invited her outside of the restaurant once and stood her up

* He invited her outside of the restaurant a second time and could not have been weirder until he vanished

* He can't talk so he just gives her increasingly extravagant gifts without ever explaining to her face what they mean

But also they are best friends.

How am I supposed to tell ya?

I don't wanna see you with anyone but me

Nobody gets me like you

How am I supposed to let you go?

Only like myself when I'm with you

[sonoranbumblebee]

Keep deleting this app and reinstalling it. Damn!

Anyway, hello again digital room where I talk to myself and sometimes other people engage with the babble! 👋

I've always thought of Carmy being away from Chicago for 10 years or whatever as very folktale-coded. He's exiled by the evil prince (his beloved brother) for a lot of reasons, some pragmatic, some quasi-mythological.

We give a lot of credence to "Mikey was trying to protect Carmy" but if you frame the Bear in mythic terms, it's pretty easy to get to "Mikey recognized his own weakness and wanted to eliminate his younger brother as a viable heir to the throne." Exile is kinder than killing him, which was an option.

The truth is that Carmy was always smarter and better than Mikey, and as proud as he was, Mikey also had his pride.

Anyway, Carmy joined the army. "Brigade." Structure. System. Support. Connection. Three square meals and a bed. He trained really really hard, and turned out to be a natural super soldier, all he had to do was turn off all his emotions and live in survival mode for a decade.

So where are we at the end of The Bear TV series, with Carmy walking away? I can't believe he wants to. He loves them so much. But I think he thinks staying is an indulgence he cannot afford. He believes it is his duty to leave them, so Sydney can thrive without his anxiety destroying their love and their business. He has to go somewhere and heal, he thinks, even though being in community has healed him so much.

I think his "plan" is to repeat the same cycle, but on a shorter timeline: Leave, train, return stronger and better able to serve the realm, and maybe actually stay for good.

I can't believe that the line "I can hold down the fort for a while if it helps?" was written by accident. Sydney is Penelope, Marcus is Telemachus, Carmy is Odysseus, and his ultimate goal is get back home again and sit at the head of the Berzatto table once and for all.

✌️

love you miss you byeeeeee

[thursbby]

love this view on things

And has been said several times ,but playing into the whole folktale, or fairytale, with princes and exiles thing, the first episode when Sydney enters for the first time, is very fairytale coded.

Sydney stumbling in all bright eyed and unsure of herself like she’s lost in a forest, yet brave… and Carmy looking enchanted and all love at first sight, when he catches sight of her for the first time

Then of course Ebra announcing ‘there’s a girl’ when he sees Sydney, like a surprised resident of the castle coming across Belle in Beauty and the Beast (again -don’t think this is an original take, has been mentioned before)

[itssohardtoexplain]

i was rewatching some episodes of The Bear before seeing the final season, and i just want to say what i felt very strongly the first time too: Jeremy Allen White deserved all the acting awards just for that scene in 4x09 alone when he was listening to Donna's confession. it honestly makes such strong impression on me every time i see that scene. the way Carmy tries so hard to keep his composure, responding to Donna with the smallest of voices, visibly trembling by the end. i do understand very well how hard it must have been for him to listen to all that, even if it's something that he desperately needed to hear for so long. it was truly such a raw and brilliant performance by Jeremy

[sonoranbumblebee]

The obvious major answer is:

* it's a TV show and Ebon is rad and Richie's a fan favorite so just put Richie in everything remotely plausible

The secondary in-universe answers:

* Jess & Richie (and Garrett and Rene) have a vibe and she made sure he got an invite

* Carmy is Terry's little prince as much or more than Carmy is Donna's little prince. Of all the chefs she's "raised" he is not only the best, he is her personal favorite even though she's not allowed to play favorites or even have personal affection for her "employee"

If her pride and joy says "Mama Terry, can my cousin stage with you for a week? He's good with people but he needs some insight into fine dining that comes from someone who is not me?" She says, "Yes we would be honored."

And then he's in the family forever and can have as many popsicles from the big freezer in the garage as he wants for the rest of time.

What's nice is that means Donna is gonna be the same about Sydney. She is in. Forever.

[sonoranbumblebee]

"Carm?" "Yeah?" "I appreciate you." "Yeah, you too."

I'll never get over it.