160+ people walked and jogged right by and many of the female pedestrians automatically assumed he deserved it and one saw the woman as a role model. only 3 attempted to slightly help.
Isn’t it funny how just as many men didn’t intervene, but your focus is wholly on the women. Almost as if your primary motivation is misogyny and not the uplifting of men.
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1. The vast majority of bystanders were women. The majority of people who excused the actions in this video were women. So pointing oit the women isnt sexism.
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There’s not much the men could have done besides use their words to try and stop her (and they should have).
See, society has been shaped to only see women as victims. Men who merely defend thsemlves from women are seen as abusers themselves. Unlike women, men have been taught all of their lives to NEVER put theor hands on a woman under any circumstace (including when theyre being attacked) so intervening physically is pretty much taboo.
Similar to how lost child PSAs say to find a woman rather than an adult (pretty sexist), unfortunately It’s safer for men to have a woman break up the unreciprocated abuse (and there were clearly many women around).
3. I’m noticing your response had no words for the abused or the documented disparity on how victims are treated. Almost like you dont care about victims if they arent in your preferred groups. Almost like your primary motivation wasnt supporting victims, but to once again mold an issue into misogyny.
1. The bystanders were about 50/50. The creators of the video chose to over represent the responses of women instead of showing an equal amount of men. Misogyny.
2. That sure is a thing that happens due to misogyny, which I’ve already thoroughly explained. I encourage you to actually look up the definition of misandry. Those victims weren’t wrongfully arrested because the police hate men. Those victims weren’t wrongfully arrested because of pre-conceived notions about men. The police and showed up and assumed it was the WOMAN being abused. And maybe you should look up what the word prejudice means too while you’re at it. 😗 dumbass. The men are being wrongfully arrested…. because its assumed that the WOMAN is the one too weak to protect herself. Notice how the judgement is consistently about the woman? You won’t because you’re illiterate but, eh.
3. Erin Pizzey claimed that the majority of women aren’t real victims because they provoked their abusers with infidelity. Other criteria that made a woman a “mutual abuser” instead of a “real victim” is experiencing more than one abusive relationship in her lifetime, returning to the man that abused her for any reason, substance abuse, and ever fighting back to defend herself. That is, in fact, condoning male violence. Especially the criteria about infidelity. You don’t have a right to beat someone just because they made you mad.
4. There’s zero evidence that the reason she’s getting away with it is that she’s a woman lol. You’re just claiming that without seeing any of the details of the cases. But even if she was, that isn’t… misandry? Not even by YOUR twisted ass definition, is that misandry.
5. Assuming that a woman needs saving but a man doesn’t is, once again, misogyny 😛 again and again you just keep proving that you don’t know what misandry looks like. Also that screenshot is so fucking old, Google doesn’t even show that bias anymore. So its a moot point.
6. The Duluth Power Wheel does not ever claim to be used as an all-encompassing, general model for identifying domestic abuse 🤷🏾♀️ a point i’ve brought up multiple times that you just choose to ignore because it doesn’t fit your agenda. They state very clearly that this is not a general model meant to be used for all cases, and it is NOT used that way. Evidenced by your OWN fucking source. This is a model created by women for women using the experiences of other women. That isn’t misandry anymore than a tampon is. Something not being made with men in mind isn’t misandry. But I can understand why a man would think not being the center of attention for once in his life feels like discrimination.
7. She’s not wrong and this is a documented phenomenon. Simply making language “gender neutral” doesn’t actually help victims of any sex. Pretending that men and women are battered at the same rate in the same way actively takes away resources from real victims. You want to protect theoretical thought experiments. How many men have been gang raped to death by women? How often are men kidnapped by women? What are the numbers on how many women have raped their children vs how many men have done the same?
This focus on “gender neutral” language is performative and created solely to distract. It makes no meaningful changes to the system. It doesnt even make resources more accessible to male victims. Are men so stupid that they think she/her pronouns being used means that something can’t possibly apply to them? Women sure don’t have that problem when he/him pronouns are used.
8. Wow! Finally! An actual example of misandry! 👏🏾✨ you did it! You threw enough shit at the wall that something finally stuck! Congrats! And i bet you’ll have no fucking idea why the hotline examples are misandry while the other examples aren’t despite it being very simple.
9. Uh huh, and who shaped society to think that women are always victims? Hmm? Who made it taboo to ever hit a woman? Where did that social requirement spawn from? Was it, perhaps, a movement against the normalization of beating your fucking wife? Perhaps there was an observable trend of women being disproportionately victimized compared to men. you are so…. stupid.
10. Children are guided to seek out women for two reasons. One, because women are believed to have an innate maternal instinct that makes them protect children (so… MISOGYNY) and Two, because statistically a man is more likely to sexually assault them. Even accounting for female on male rape being underreported would not change those odds. Men are not secretly being raped by women at a rate of 1 in 4.
11. Because it’s a staged skit, dumbass, no one actually got abused. You understand that, right? It wasn’t real? It was a social experiment. You’re so misogynistic that it offends you that misogyny even exists. It upsets you that it’s ingrained into society because it means you can’t blame women for all your problems. Insane behavior.
1. Try again.
2. Maybe YOU should look up what misandry is because-
It doesnt have to be hatred. Mere prejudice based on sex is sexism. And whe. you do it to men for being male, it’s misandry.
Profiling men because theyre male is misamdry just lile profiling black people because theyre black is racism.
Not caring about a male victim because he’s male, assuming he’s at fault because he’s male, etc are all examples of misandry. Hope that helps.
3. Erin Pizzey found that the majority of DV cases were reciprocated (both lartoes were striking each other) and that the women imitiated the abuse. She even recorded some of the conversations from these women in the women’s shelter where the women admitred to being violent and initiating abuse. But these women (feminists) insisted women couldnt be abusers, so they attributed these findings to misogyny. They equated recognizing female on male abuse as supporting male abusers.
4. Various social experiements in numerous countroes across the decades consistently show that while public displays of male on female abuse are seen as bad and tend to get immeidate intervention, public dosplays of female on male abuse consistently to ignkred or treated as funny.
You claim there’s zero evidence, but this seems pretty consistent. You know, ignoring laws, regulations, and general biases by police that treat male victims as abusers
5. I see you’ve found another way to twist men being abused and ignored into women being the real victims. I can tell of the sexes were reversed, you would consider this misogyny.
You know what? As I reread your responses, you show youre not one whose opinions change with new information. You’ll do whatever mental gymnastics are needed to deny misandry and make it about misogyny. It seems really childish and counterproductive to equality.
The most I can do is offer you the perspective a former man-hating, misandry-denying radical feminist who thought exactly like you.
And of course her follow up TedX
I cant make you…intake new information woth an objective and open mind, but I can gove you the opportunity.
I doubt you’ll actually watch them, and I doubt even more thaf you’ll actually take what you (refuse to) see into consideration, but this is the best I can do for you.
Maybe start supporting victims someday instead of being yet another hurdle.
Have a nice day.
Edit:
Oh that makes sense. @Rainbowolfe, who blocked me after proving them wrong, ran to a side blog to pretend to be someone new and harass me some more.
Yeah. Waste of time.
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what was that you were saying @spicycourses ? hmm, looks like there’s an over representation of some very dangerous women here. you’re absolutely right, we need to identify the victims and make sure the resources go to them. so let’s shut down the women’s shelters and give those resources to the men.
OR we can stop acting like domestic and sexual violence is a one way street and actually acknowledge, as you absolutely refuse to, that this is NOT a gendered issue and acknowledge and help ALL the victims instead of just the victims of your preferred group.
and shut it with that misandry is really misogyny malarkey. you don’t get to strike someone down and call yourself the victim. everything here, the denial of male victims, the insistence that only males can be perpetrators, the insistance that the victims of the out group are really only being left behind because of the prejudice against the in group, pretty much everything you said in that wall of drivel, falls under the Merriam Webster definition of misandry that @cheshireinthemiddle shared.
oh btw women get away with this shit a lot more which skews statistics, being those stats are usually based off guilty verdicts and according to this study women see leniency in every step of the justice system.
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I look forward to being a member of team blocked.
What if you sat on my dick and span? If I had either of you blocked, you wouldn't have been able to directly tag me, dumbass 😂 It's a fucking side blog. It's connected to the same account.
Of course people who think prejudice is just being mean to someone would pretend to be blocked. That's what you do. You flat out lie and misrepresent what people are saying.
At no point have I claimed that men can't be victims or that misandry doesn't exist :3 so either learn to read or go walk into traffic. I also never claimed male victims shouldn't receive resources. That's all projection from your fucked up ideology. YOU believe that giving resources to one group means the other can't have any.
Calling women the "in group" is so funny btw
Anyways, you seem confused. The "mutual abuse" Erin theorized about is not the same mutuality your first source is talking about. I recommend actually reading your sources before you share them:
"Equal rates of perpetration do not necessarily mean mutuality in the sense of both partners engaging in physical attacks. An epidemiological survey might find about the same rates for men and women—for example, 12% in the previous 12 months. However, the 12% of men could refer to one set of couples, and the 12% of women might be occurring in another set of couples. Theoretically, there could be no couples where both are violent."
This study looks at rates as a whole across multiple surveys. They did not survey couples and find that men and women in the same relationship were abusing each other—that is what Erin claimed. This study is not about determining which women are real victims. It's about quantifying that PV occurs at similar rates. But here's the thing.
This study has an entire section dedicated to acknowledging that despite similar occurrence rates, PV still has a greater effect on women than men. "The exception to gender symmetry is that the adverse effects of being a victim of PV are much greater for women than for men." [...] "Attacks by men cause more injury (both physically and psychologically), more deaths, and more fear. In addition, women are more often economically trapped in a violent relationship than men, because women continue to earn less than men and because, when a marriage ends, women have custodial responsibility for children at least 80% of the time."
"Still, the greater adverse effect effect of physical PV on women is an extremely important difference, and it indicates the need to continue to provide more services for women victims of PV than for men victims."
Woooowwwww your own fucking source explains why women should be prioritized, idiot.
A woman slapping her boyfriend is a problem. To pretend it is remotely comparable to a man raping a woman to death is an even greater issue. The violence being carried out is not the same. Your insistence that it is is why a productive conversation cannot be had over it.
Next source, lets look at the CDCs data on intimate violence. For 2024/2025, they only have stalking data available. 9.7% of men experienced stalking. 22.5% of women experienced it. Hmm, what a significant difference. I wonder why that is. Why would women? Get stalked? More often than men?
For sexual violence we have to look at the 2017/2018 data.
10.7% of men (12.6 million) experienced being forced to penetrate someone. This number includes failed attempts. Of that 12.6 million, 69.6% of those attempts were perpetrated exclusively by females (8.8 million).
Compare that to the 26.8% of women (33.5 million) who reported complete or attempted rape. So no matter how you try to twist the data, women are being raped by men 3 times more than men are being raped by women. Once again proving that these issues aren't occurring at the same rate.
You're so busy arguing with the "big bad feminist" you made up in your head, that you're dropping counterpoints for arguments I never made 😂 you're too stupid to even properly debate. I never called into question whether males can be victims. So you're just sending irrelevant bullshit. I did not say that ALL misandry is really just misogyny. I explained how most of the specific examples your buddy gave weren't based in misandry. Because they weren't.
Claiming that most of the victims weren't abused is a massive reach. More lies from the mens rights activists, classic. :3 the data reports that they didn't know if there was abuse 40.5% of the time. That's much different from there objectively being no abuse whatsoever.
And finally, these stats on child abuse are irrelevant. No one was talking about child abuse. These stats don't change the fact that their is a societal preconception that women are naturally inclined to take care of children, or that men are more likely to be rapists lmao. The stats are literally right there in front of your face. Men are statistically more likely to be rapists than women. Like? Now you're just denying basic facts.
