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Eris the 10th Planet thru the Houses, Where in Life Do You Feel “Left Out”?
Discovered in 2005, from plates found in 2003, Eris is a Trans-Neptunian Object, which is an astronomical term meaning further out than Neptune. She was named a dwarf planet along with Pluto. She was Planet X, then nicknamed Xena, then officially named after the brother of Ares/Mars, the goddess of discord.
Eris entered Aries in 1923 and will not enter Taurus until 2048, so almost everyone alive right now has Eris in Aries, therefore making the house of Eris more personal to you. It takes 556 years for Eris to orbit the sun.
“Eris is one who struggles against injustice and oppression. She has her war-like and even bloodthirsty side, with the higher manifestation of defending the weak and standing up for oneself. Her placement and aspects to other planets correlate to the archetype of the underdog warrior, speaking truth to power, and with also a willingness to resort to violence if necessary. Many manifestations of this archetype exist in the present culture, and the discovery period is also coincident with the onset of the Iraq war. This archetype represents a dire motif of the struggle for survival that is inherent in the natural world, and in humankind also, and which represents once again, as with Pluto and Chiron, a darker side of our common humanity that must be acknowledged and faced in our time. Where she located in your chart, you have the capability to make a powerful and perhaps ruthless stand for yourself, and to battle against all odds.” –Time Passages Software
Eris in the 1st house: Your presence is so radical that you don’t fit in with most people. You boldly state your opinions and you might even get a thrill from causing trouble between people. You are a brave fighter full of strength. You thrive on conflict as it propels you to feel alive. You prefer revolution over tradition. You crave discord and excitement as opposed to trying to find peace in life. You feel doldrums when life is too calm, you always feel the need to take on challenges.
Eris in the 2nd house: You resist the current system of economy and want to rebel against being dependent on money, you’re the person who is cut out for growing their own food and/or living off the grid. You feel a drive in your soul to not be materially attached, even if you might have other factors in your chart that indicate a tendency to splurge on possessions. You value sticking up for the underdog, fighting injustice, and living passionately.
Eris in the 3rd house: The school system made you feel boxed in; your learning style might not grasp academic lessons, but is able to absorb information when you are allowed to learn on your own. You didn’t get all the attention from teachers that would have helped you excel in the classroom, so rather, you reject commands of busy work assignments and find brilliance by doing projects your own way. You may have been made to feel dumb because you could not meet standards that other students could, yet the chaos in your mind brings ideas together when you are given freedom to learn at your own pace.
Eris in the 4th house: Your family made you feel like the odd one out, they did not sympathize with you during hard times. You had to break away from traditions and find yourself. The universe gives you permission to shamelessly reject what your parents taught you, as they may not have had the most well rounded perspective when they raised you. They likely treated you with injustice and made you feel oppressed.
Eris in the 5th house: Your idea of fun is different than those around you, so it may have been difficult to find comradery (feeling of a connected community) until you found a group of people with a common interest. Your hobbies are seen as strange, compared to typical activities that most people enjoy. Your children may have a discordant temperament. Your romantic life is filled with chaos.
Eris in the 6th house: You don’t fit in at most workplaces, you resist being subordinate to a boss. You feel oppressed by the daily grind and wish to find a more exciting job. You’d do well in an action packed vocation that allows you to be a maverick. You feel like you weren’t given a fair shot in the workforce and may excel more if you become self-employed. Your health will decline when you act discordant.
Eris in the 7th house: Relationships always seem to end up in flames in your life, which includes business partnerships, lovers, close friends, etc. You wonder why can’t I just find that special someone and make it last? You attract discordant people. Perhaps you haven’t worked through all the chaos within you and so you project others as being difficult. If you make a point to cultivate inner peace while acknowledging your own inner wild self, you will draw in the right people who do not provoke you too much.
Eris in the 8th house: Deep in your soul lies discordance that you need to embrace and understand. You desire a crazy sex life to let out inhibitions your chaotic emotions that you don’t get to release in other areas in life.
Eris in the 9th house: You feel that religion has oppressed you, you do not resonate with the faith you were raised with and it is up to you to explore spirituality in many forms to find your own truths. Traveling alone would be very therapeutic to you. You love the idea of higher learning, but the structure of college doesn’t agree with you. You experience injustice in the college setting.
Eris in the 10th house: Your discordant nature makes it difficult to achieve your career goals. You’d excel in a career that involves helping others who have been left out, for example, special education, infertility, adoption agencies, counseling, addiction, women’s or men’s rights advocacy, etc. You are resistant to bosses that expect you to be subordinate, you have to fight to achieve the goals and jobs that suit you.
Eris in the 11th house: No matter how many friends you have, you still feel like they don’t include you in their lives as much as you’d like. You feel like a lone wolf, you don’t fully fit in with most groups. If you find friends who appreciate your uniqueness, you’ll feel fulfilled. Make it a point to seek non-judgmental, open, and understanding people, and you can allow yourself to grow close to people who matter. You can heal from any previous friends who betrayed you or any times you felt like you had no one to reach out to.
Eris in the 12th house: You subconsciously want to be alone in order to dig deep into your spiritual self. You have sabotaged relationships and opportunities because you hadn’t worked thru your inner baggage. Your soul has likely existed on other planets as you feel estranged from this world in general. You can journey through other dimensions because your chaotic spirit endlessly searches for more. You are fighting a battle in your psyche, as Eris triggered the Trojan war. Your chaotic nature has been suppressed, as you realize that too many people in this world cannot handle you.
If you would like me to look at your entire chart and how Eris makes aspects to your birth planets, I offer natal chart readings, among many other services that you can check out at AcaiPsycheLife.tumblr.com/readings
Eris in Astrology: What can it mean?
"Eris caused strife and discord by causing quarrels among people, and that's what this one has done too." -- US astronomer Mike Brown (2006)
--- Eris: How it was named --- Brown initially wanted to call the object "Lila", a concept in Hindu faith that means 'divine play' in Sanskrit.
However, the name "Lila" was not accepted, due to an ongoing strife within the astronomy team working at the across the observatories in Hawaii and Southern California, specifically with the issue of 'premature naming'.
During 2003-2004, Sedna was also named 'prematurely' (i.e. Brown was accused of naming the planet without agreement from the team), and that one stuck and got officiated. So when he listed the address of his personal web page announcing the discovery as /~mbrown/planetlila accidentally, he did not want to get involved in an even deeper conflict, as his newborn daughter at the time was also named 'Lilah'.
The naming of Haumea (Hawaiian goddess of childbirth and fertility) had its own controversy, which was to be named Ataecina (Iberian goddess of the underworld and spring) by a Spanish team that claimed to have discovered the planet first in 2003, but had accusations of fraud levied by the US team, leading to a dispute.
Brown accused José Luis Ortiz Moreno of fraud upon learning that the Spanish observatory had accessed Brown's observation logs the day before the discovery announcement. Ortiz maintained that he only did so to see if this was the same object that his team had been tracking.
The IAU as compromise listed the Spanish observatory as the place of discovery, and accepted the US-proposed name. For the latter, a developing IAU tome was referenced: That it cannot be named Ataecina because plutinos are named after mythological creatures associated with the underworld, and Haumea was not that kind of planet. (or maybe to match its moons, I am not sure, it seems like this was a way to perform a rule which did not codify in the first place).
Amidst this developing bureaucracy of naming conventions, as astronomic research spanned large teams across nations, Brown came up with Eris when it was discovered. For a while, as the concept of equity was being discussed in naming, especially after his mishap in nicknaming it Lila mistaken for inconsiderate arrogance. I try to take a neutral stance here because only Brown has published such information of internal conflicts within his memoir, and most astronomers have not done so, so I am trying my best to say who was right or wrong here.
--- Eris: how it came to mean what it means.
Astronomers as an organization do disavow astrology as a pseudo-science, and of course it is, as with many divinatory practices that got its 18th century re-evaluation from empiricism experience the same label. I do want to think a bit about how significant and symbolic the act of naming space bodies are, and I do find it quite interesting how they are named from an experience; for Mike Brown, Eris is named after his strife with his community and the general ambience around him. (The author has no control from this paragraph on. :( )
---- Eris in Astrology: How commonly used is it?
136199 Eris, the second largest dwarf planet in the solar system after Pluto, listed in astro-seek.com as a negative asteroid -- its meaning and symbolism really unsettled among astrology enthusiasts as it was only discovered in 2005.
"Eris feels like discord and conflict that are vague and far away but I'm still aware of, and feel at a distance. I often wonder how can my personal life feel be so comfortable (sun/moon), yet I still feel this angst around collective problems my country and our planet are facing." -- LaVidaLohan
"I see Eris as a metaphor for women's autonomy, the right to choose, Eve eating the apple. Her mythology is all about throwing a Golden Apple (sovereignty, the freedom of choice and will outside of predetermined structures) into a group of women that fought amongst each other over the acceptance of a man." -- SophiaRaine69420
Traditionalists seem to not like Eris.
---- Eris: A generational planet
The pull for giving meaning to Eris however makes sense. At least to me, I often think about the generational planets Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto. Particularly, it has become quite important to me in my shadow work, to unpack unpleasant events from my childhood to my early thirties, by compartmentalizing the ingresses to my houses as phases of my life.
For example, It makes it a bit more symbolic and comprehensive to find a comforting conclusion as to my struggles in education as Uranus ingressed my 3rd house in May 2020 when I was preparing to travel abroad for education, and conjuncted my Natal Saturn in Taurus around 2020 to 2021 where I tried to study in a more engineering-heavy field at the time only to fail because I also did not know how to manage my new house on my own, and do all the tasks that I didn't learn to do because my parents did it (i.e. the issue with moving out at 20 for the first time in a foreign country with no family nearby).
It helps also for me to accept that my education got delayed and that I am graduating in July 2027 as of now, lining up with my proper ingress of Uranus to the 4th house.
To compress that, I think it makes sense that many astrology enthusiasts rely on slower moving planets to understand the phases of their lives. Uranus ranges from 6 to 7.5 years in each sign, Neptune for 13 years, and Pluto has a large range from 11.5 to 31.5 years. These periods vary due to the planet's eccentricity (0.0457, 0.0086, and 0.248 respectively -- Pluto has a highly eliptical orbit).
Uranus is the only one out of these three, where a good amount of people are seeing a full Uranus cycle (median life expectancy is 77 years worldwide at age 25). Neptune and Pluto are longer, they will never complete a cycle in our current life expectancy, but if you live to 80 you will see your Neptune get opposed by transit Neptune. Earlier cohorts with Pluto in Leo are currently experiencing an opposition from Pluto in Aquarius during their late 80s. This is definitely not something everyone will experience (people born in the 2000s have to live up to 137 years).
Eris is currently ingressing Aries since 1923 and until 2044 it will remain here. That's about 100 years, and about 17% of the full cycle (556 years). With an eccentricity of 0.436, Eris is possibly having one of the longer sign phases right now.
--- Eris: Not really understood
"Have we underestimated Eris? Whilst Eris isn't necessarily outright ignored, I've noticed she tends to get sidelined a bit compared to the ruling planets and Chiron." --MadGentlemanJ
"Yes, Eris is not utilized nearly as much as she should be. Though Ceres requires far more attention as well. Chiron is vastly over represented and highly misunderstood in application by “insta-astrologers” and others who attempt to use astrology to promote their subjective views onto others. I personally cannot even look at a chart without at least Ceres, Juno, Pallas, Vesta, Hygiea, Astraea, Eris, Sedna, Haumea, and MakeMake represented.” --unknown user.
"Indeed, Eris is 98% of Pluto’s diameter, but Eris is also 27% denser, and unlike Pluto Eris is fully outside of Neptune's orbit, so there are reasons to consider Eris at least as if not more astrologically significant then Pluto."--CruiserOne
Eris - Bob the Alien's Tour of the Solar System
There is a lot of interest in investigating Eris. Pluto as a planet has become pretty well loved among astrology enthusiasts, due to its association with death and rebirth, kind of signifying not only personal experiences of breaking away from something, specifically old baggage, but also as a way to understand the changing world.
Pluto entering Aquarius in 2023 coincided with the the GPT boom, this mass slop event affecting you and your mother and your grandmother, and also the genocide in Gaza that really showed how useless international law is (and they aren't separate, AI slop is also being used to automate war). I see this as a phase that is bringing the themes of technological optimism to an end, and bringing in doubts to claims of technological advances benefitting structures of human laws.
Neptune ingressing Aries in 2025 is something I am yet to fully understand, but it may signify how people are utilizing new frameworks to understand the bullshit that is happening. After all, economists are in shambles because they really cannot explain why countries that borrow and issue government debt in their own currency aren't collapsing yet -- but I suppose that's what happens when you conceive economics in a vacuum and neglect the role of military power. Heterodox economic frameworks that got called cringe by mainstream nerds are becoming a bolster of comfort.
So Eris becomes kind of important in understanding as well in two ways:
on its own, as what Eris in Aries means in energy.
as a quite large generational cohort.
and as its role to an individual (the natal houses).
--- Generational planets and the personal
Because as I see it, the way we perceive individuals and their sun signs are impacted by generational symbols. For example, it would be interesting to understand if the "two-faced Geminis" or the "victim-blaming Cancers" or the "attention-whore Leos" are being perceived in such a way due to Pluto's trajectory from Sagittarius to Aquarius during the age of online slopstrology (in contrast to the pre-online slopstrology).
"This can be an extremely difficult period for relationships, both intimate and casual, because you are likely to get involved in power struggles with others." -- Robert Hand,
"It’s honestly exhausting. Every time you read a description, it’s like we’re all just narcissistic drama queens or 'attention whores' who can't live without a spotlight. I really want to know: what was the real description of Leo back then, before it got watered down by all this pop-culture nonsense? Because the leos I see in history is a lot more private, intense, and hated attention." -- Monisfor
The way an individual relates to the zeitgeist (current trends, feeling out of place, le wrong generation) can also be the Sun's relation to the current signs of the generational planets.
and for Eris, I feel as if this very slow movement through the signs as of now will in fact address a pretty important question: where am i in the world? Many people are asking this.
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So I want to end this meandering thought. I have a feeling that Eris in Aries marks this era where scapegoating becomes very prominent in our lives, perhaps due to the prominence of ideology after the fall of hereditary legitimacy, and the danger of your individual identity can become atomized into parts, pried apart and joined to a group, and subject you to shame, stigma, joblessness, isolation or death.
Everyone finds themselves in this fear when they ask the question, where can I be safe as myself, too? For now I have nothing to say about what it means for you, but definitely encourage further research, as there are other people already writing about interpretation.
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Eris appears in relatively few myths and acts more as an achieved condition than an active character. When she does feature in stories, once discord has been created, Eris drops out of the story as a character and becomes the thematic representation of conflict.
Eris is the scapegoat, someone who almost never matters unless within a family, a community, or a nation, arises a conflict that cannot be solved until a scapegoat is named. Eris disappears from stories as soon as the scapegoat is identified. Eris is a false representation of how a problem can be solved. The mythical idea of a bad apple, bad barrels of apples, describing a group of humans as rot, infection, and presenting an easy solution to be solved.
When it comes to our lives, Eris can signal the domains where we will face the mechanisms of scapegoating and show us a way in which we can go against that.
The Wedding of Peleus and Thetis Miniature in Jean Miélot's adaptation of Christine de Pisan, L'Epître d'Othéa , ca. 1460 - Eris (mythology) - Wikipedia
I would really like better astrology tools with eris included too lol.
You have no idea the kind of satire I would write if I could trust the general public to practice reading comprehension.
I say: accept your death.
Do not trust men in the workspace until the following tests are passed:
1. Cross-domain communication competency (can they assess and detect the level of information to share and cross check)
2. No signs of fallacious objectivism in arguments — "yea but your statement is an anecdote, my generalization is an axiom." also committed by many stemoid women. this is stemoid cockiness.
3. A sadomasochist view of labor: "I suffered, you should too"
The Self-Taught Astrologer’s Syllabus: From Foundations to Capstones
This professional-standard curriculum is designed for the student who wants to use Placidus houses without losing the wisdom of the Traditional Revival. It moves from the Alphabet (Foundations) to Syntax (Synthesis), through the Professional Toolkit, into the Deep Roots, and finally to High-Level Capstones (Noel Tyl for the professional practitioner; Richard Tarnas for the astrological philosopher).
This path bridges the gap: it masters the psychological nuance of Placidus without sacrificing the technical precision of the Tradition.
Got called brave and stunning (implicitly, exaggerated for the textual medium) for casually mentioning being an autist in a conversation. Yes I am brave and stunning.
sometimes i think my interest in astrology is cringe but then i realize that some ppl have being a terf as a hobby and spend their free waking hours doing that. so yeah i am good actually.
Synastry Transit Charts?
Trying to figure out a way to read two transit charts at the same time + using different hue for color coding while keeping the saturation and luminance the same, why didn't i figure that out before?? Example: me and my partner :3c If anyone wants something like this lmk...
7-4-3-4 (time-layer) spread
the fact that this hobby blog made to 10 posts before getting abandoned says a lot about how obsessed im with astrology data at this phase in my life. last time i was this obsessed was in 2017 with mbti, socionics and stuff and i think after 3 years with it i stopped caring and just never thought of that again.
i wish i cuddled my bf two hours ago instead of coding tho now he is asleep and it is so over.
manifesting...
Completely AI-Free Coding Ability by 15/7/2026. I want to vomit not debug someone else's vomit anymore.
I might have stopped using AI as much as this phase but I might have also really decreased how much I code as well.
Trying to make sense of solar return charts!
Happy holidays to all!
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@star0t with light pollution obscuring the night sky, do we believe astrology loses potency as it becomes less prevalent in modern times as an egregore?
was it universal because the sky was a map we could read every night vs quantum entanglement, similarly to gravity existing and acting whether you believe in it or not
@intoxcatd never thought of it!!
I think in the belief system that the planets in astrology are physical planetary bodies, the 'gravitational' pulls as an idea, the planets themselves are just as potent as it always was. The human is merely unaware. Then, that's the quantum entanglement.
In the belief system where they are seen as deities, they are possibly less 'potent' to the human who does not go into exchange in dialogue with the deity. Or if these deities seem to deal with you despite your lack of engagement, the same as the first. That seems more like the idea that humans have an active engagement with the planets.
Many people theorize it as the former. Mercury itself is causing this retrograde. It's not sentient, but it's a gravitational force in itself. I think few people today see it as a way to figure out what a god is up to next. Might be a more historical experience (Babylonian astrology)
Was it ever universal? I don't know. There always seems to be so many overlapping definitions with different names but I think it is because we see it from the lens today.
But we definitely do not touch grass or see sky nowadays when we engage with astrology. I only see numbers and data personally. I have come to see astrological planets as a combination of knobs, where i can squeeze my life within the cracks to make sense of it (i.e curve fitting). What do you think?
cap sun, gemini/sag moon, virgo rising??!
cap is correct :P
There's always something happening with the moon. In fact, a day where nothing happens with the moon is rare. (This is an interactive plotly graph which you can check here.)
Usecase: pattern detections.....