solidity is relative

unpatched bugs are just hidden features ign: swiftasacoursing

[swiftasacoursing]

This game is so beautiful. I have to actively remind myself to not stand around and take screenshots because I won’t get anything else done

[swiftasacoursing]

TIL that your warframe's colors actually affect the color of your profile background. I always thought it was random

[swiftasacoursing]

I finished listening to all of the recordings from Albrecht Entrati and while it’s neat to hear about the origins of [REDACTED], it felt odd that absolutely nothing happens afterwards.

I mean you spend all this time ranking up two syndicates to learn the story of these two important characters and then...nobody cares. Loid doesn’t comment on it, Mother has no idea, not even a snide remark from [REDACTED] himself.

The final entry, Lohk, is just a reciting of the requiem poem or whatever it’s called, but it makes it seem like something is supposed to happen. He finishes with “We end as we began” and when I looked up at the ceiling, there it was. The Lohk symbol is right above where you speak with Loid to start learning about this whole thing. We end as we began. It’s some nice symbolism, but it’s absolutely pointless if it doesn’t have any purpose.

[swiftasacoursing]

ah. It took 4 years, but we got there eventually

[swiftasacoursing]

kuva liches kinda remind me of the wolf of saturn six bc they’re beefy grineer that can kick your ass with big weapons

but then I remember that the wolf didn’t have anything to do with kuva, he was just Like That

[kirhn]

Kuva isn’t good enough for the Wolf. He’s entirely that all-natural grineer BEEF.

[boxheadpaint]

[leonkennedysprostate]

having talented friends is so wild!!!!!! like. YOU!!!!!!!!!! YOU made THAT. YOU DID THAT?!?!?!?! YOU created!!!! THAT!!!!!!!!!!! WOAH!!!!!! praise!!!!!!!! praise for one thousand years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mobilesuit]

giant norg that talks like a sexy vampire? okay. sure. that's the least weird thing in this update honestly

[wizardmarriage]

please remember to hold your robot gently

[cinnabuncrumbs]

elon musk should kill himself elon musk needs to kill himself elon musk would make society as a whole better if he killed himself now

[a-tenno-called-prin]

Sorry to break the theme of the blog but a lot of people who post their incredible works here use Twitter so

[a-tenno-called-prin]

Reblogging this for a second time because your art will also be used in AI training models, apparently.

[coldalbion]

Artist pals, heads up

[birdwizardofficial]

What the fuck

[corvidae-witch-deactivated20230]

proud to never have used twitter or x in my life but artist friends need to hear this

[eve-be-sleep-deprived]

Every time someboy on Duviri says something just... massively depressing, the urge to just...

Overpowering

[ritasanderson]

The Indifference

[eliasdrid]

quick Callisto-5 sketch with the armor combo I was using during the Season of Seraph finale

Revenants sometimes need a bit of Ticuu's Divination to melt the ice

[swiftasacoursing]

slightly long post about difficulty

I think the reason that warframe struggles so much with endgame is because the players have too great of a range in power. You might have heard of “skill floors” and “skill ceilings” in games before, but those exist for power as well. Warframe has an incredibly low power floor, but also an incredibly high power ceiling. There are multiple frames and weapons that can deal enough damage to cause an integer overflow, provided you have the right mods. And that’s kind of a problem.

How do you design an endgame for a game that allows this much freedom with progression? You can design it with the strongest builds in mind, giving enemies inflated hp and armor, but then anyone using a less powerful build calls it a bullet sponge. You can design it for much weaker builds, but then the stronger builds turn it into a cakewalk and don’t feel engaging.

You can’t even get around the problem by making non-stat related mechanics because this IS a stats game. The entire progression path is through mods, weapons, and upgrades. If you make a crucial mechanic that isn’t related to stats, then your previous upgrades are essentially worthless.

This can be most clearly seen through every new system they add that isn’t a normal warframe mod or weapon. Think of operators, necramechs, and archwings. They are essentially “fresh starts” for progression which allows the developers to fine tune the difficulty for a while before it turns into crazy power trips or insanely difficult fights again.

I don’t think there’s any universally good solution to this either. You could address it by reducing the player’s power ceiling , but then people will complain about being nerfed into the ground. You could raise the power floor, but then people will say there’s no meaningful progression. You could avoid “endgame” entirely by constantly adding more side progression, but then people complain about content islands.

tl;dr: min power is too low, max power is too high, what do?

Idk what do y’all think? Am I completely off my rocker with this?

[swim-squatch]

You're right on the money in my opinion, however, I'd also like to point out that I'm not entirely sure any "endgame" would be satisfying at this point. From a difficulty standpoint like you highlighted, but also the fact that the mission to mission gameplay format isn't really conducive to an endpoint progression where other forms of content are rendered mostly obsolete once you reach "endgame". Additionally, with power being so closely tied to progression like you've pointed out, any endgame content would have to reward a relative power increase, which, with powercreep being such a problem already, only confounds the whole mission and reward relationship. In this sense, I don't think the idea of endgame content is really worth pursuing in a traditional way, and instead should focus on gamefeel and fun mission design to motivate players to continue to engage with the content. I am hopeful to see what the future of Raids is, as I think the devs recognize these problems and can tailor a more satisfying balance with the last few years of feedback and reflection regarding an "endgame" mode.

[swiftasacoursing]

I think the “gamefeel and fun mission design” bit is a great point and kind of seems like what the game is moving towards these days. We’ve reached the end of the upgrading power era because there’s really nowhere else to go.

We’ve reached the story telling era, better known as the “Tenno, watch me do a backflip through void space” era

[infestedslime]

THE BEAST!!!

[swiftasacoursing]

slightly long post about difficulty

I think the reason that warframe struggles so much with endgame is because the players have too great of a range in power. You might have heard of “skill floors” and “skill ceilings” in games before, but those exist for power as well. Warframe has an incredibly low power floor, but also an incredibly high power ceiling. There are multiple frames and weapons that can deal enough damage to cause an integer overflow, provided you have the right mods. And that’s kind of a problem.

How do you design an endgame for a game that allows this much freedom with progression? You can design it with the strongest builds in mind, giving enemies inflated hp and armor, but then anyone using a less powerful build calls it a bullet sponge. You can design it for much weaker builds, but then the stronger builds turn it into a cakewalk and don’t feel engaging.

You can’t even get around the problem by making non-stat related mechanics because this IS a stats game. The entire progression path is through mods, weapons, and upgrades. If you make a crucial mechanic that isn’t related to stats, then your previous upgrades are essentially worthless.

This can be most clearly seen through every new system they add that isn’t a normal warframe mod or weapon. Think of operators, necramechs, and archwings. They are essentially “fresh starts” for progression which allows the developers to fine tune the difficulty for a while before it turns into crazy power trips or insanely difficult fights again.

I don’t think there’s any universally good solution to this either. You could address it by reducing the player’s power ceiling , but then people will complain about being nerfed into the ground. You could raise the power floor, but then people will say there’s no meaningful progression. You could avoid “endgame” entirely by constantly adding more side progression, but then people complain about content islands.

tl;dr: min power is too low, max power is too high, what do?

Idk what do y’all think? Am I completely off my rocker with this?

[kazoracht]

I appreciate DE's commitment to just fucking around with warframe development.

They're very willing to experiment y'know?

[kandrakelsier]

I love this game

[virmink-united]

the arsenal grows...