#*mbti

[ceaselessbasher]

I love the Internet cause sometimes someone is like 

“Hey y’all know the art sytle of the official MBTI personalities website, right? I made a picrew in that style.”

Anyways, here’s the TRUE face of the INTP

[quinnmorgendorffer]

Do you have any mbti ideas for AD characters?

Hey! Well, I have been thinking about it and I have some ideas lol. They’re a bit hard to figure out because, after all, it’s arrested development, meaning they haven’t really grown up, which makes seeing their cognitive functions harder to figure out. Someone did typings on funkymbti, but I don’t agree with all of them 100%, but I’m no expert. But, again, I wouldn’t mind taking a swing at it. My personal rundown, with explanations under the cut, is:

Gob - ESTP (this is the one I am the MOST confident on)

Michael - ESTJ

Lindsay - ENFP

Buster - ISFJ

George Michael - ISFJ

Maeby - ISTP

Lucille - ESTJ

Tobias - ENFP

George - ENTJ

Tony (mostly speculative) - INFJ

Gob - definitely an ESTP. Like, holy shit, he’s a stereotypical ESTP. A stereotypical ESTP is the partier, the jock, the popular kid. He’s totally in a Se-Fe (Extroverted Sensing-Extroverted Feeling) loop most of the time; basically his manic stages because, yes, I have to fit in the bipolar Gob theory whenever possible. Anyways, he seeks adventure and sex and drugs and alcohol and is somehow magically ALIVE, so he either has no limits or knows his limits, making me believe his Se is high. Fe explains his ability to charm people, as Mitch described him as someone who doesn’t even realize he’s being charming. To quote mbti notes, “Tertiary Fe often makes a person seem sociable or charming, which can easily be mistaken as Fe dominant. However, tertiary Fe often has a calculating underside, more likely to treat people instrumentally as tools/objects for self-centered gain (due to higher Ti). Tertiary Fe is more likely to produce relationship failure and social discord (than dominant Fe).” He’s able to observe the environment around him and come to conclusions from time to time, showing his SeNi, like putting together that his mom had been driving Michael in “My Mother the Car”. I said he loops in Se-Fe because his logic (Ti) is very much absent like...constantly. His logic is very abstract and not based in facts like Michael (a total Te user) is. Inferior Ni also explains his need to stick to being a magician despite his total failure at it; lots of tunnel vision can happen with Ni. So, yes, I’d say ESTP.

Michael - This person said ISTJ, but I lean more towards ESTJ, if only for the fact that he’s not nearly as introverted/independent as he likes to believe (he needs the family as much as they need him) and the fact that it means he’d have inferior Fi (Introverted Feeling), explaining his “robotic” nature. Fi also explains why he has his own set of morals that, quite often, go against his family’s. It also definitely explains why he thinks he’s more moralistic than his family but really isn’t; the lower something is in your stack, the weaker it is, but you still might think you’re good at it. The Te-dom nature makes him very driven by facts and logic, and having Te-Ne makes him come up with dry, snarky comebacks. SJs have a rep for normally being pretty traditional due to Si, which isn’t always true, but it works in Michael’s case. I think a lot of his s4 behaviors are signs of inferior Fi/being in a Fi grip versus inferior Ne/being in a Ne grip. To quote mbti notes’ spotting guide on inferior Fi, “Their failures usually involve: being too aggressive and then getting severe pushback, taking on too much then suffering exhaustion, or being so focused on bottom line efficiency/results that they neglect other important things.” ESTJ.

Lindsay - She’s definitely an Fi user; she has her own morals and ethics that aren’t decided by her family, so she’s an FP or TJ. They said ESFP, but I might honestly lean more towards an ENFP. When she’s stressed out, she goes back to Tobias, and in s5a, they have her leave to find her “real” family, which indicates an inferior Si to me. But when she’s less stressed, she’s able to change her life around quite easily. She changes her focus a lot, including what size of a cause she’s on, and she’s very adaptable, normally a high Ne trait. And Lindsay having the same functions as Michael but in a different order really helps explain why they tend to get along well, I think. ENFP.

Buster - Buster is a hard one, god. He’s been robbed of so much of his adulthood that it’s hard to figure out his cognitive functions. Stereotypically, I think he fits as an ISFJ (Si-Fe-Ti-Ne). Si-doms are stereotyped as being very into routines, and Buster had trouble leaving his routines behind when Lucille was in jail. He craves approval of others, particularly his mom and his older siblings, which could indicate Fe, and higher Fe tends to make people warm and friendly, which is definitely a Buster trait. Through Ti he’s normally able to come up with some logical explanations, like figuring out Uncle Oscar is his dad, but he’s not too concerned with logic. His Ne is basically non-existent, since his growth has been so stunted. But, yeah, he likes things to stay the same and he’s a sweetheart, so I’d say ISFJ.

George Michael - Definitely an ISxJ, since when he’s stressed, he easily falls into the grip of Ne - spiraling anxiety. To, again, quote mbti notes, this time on inferior Ne, “Their failures usually involve: being too anxious or worried (catastrophizing), being overwhelmed by too much novelty or rapid change, or micromanaging situations (sometimes due to unwillingness to delegate).” I think I’d go with ISFJ because I think he has to have Fe in his stack; he’s very worried about keeping peace and harmony, and while Michael keeps the family together, GM is the one who actually wants the family to be together. Fe is often about togetherness. ISFJ.

Maeby - I definitely agree with the typing done on her as an ISTP. Her Ti-dom nature makes her very prone to being a bit rude and cynical, as well as independent and she can figure things out on her own. Inferior Fe pops up in her being unintentionally (or sometimes truly just intentionally) cool or rude to people around her. Hell, she purposefully tried to make GM feel bad for no reason. She’s definitely someone who lives in the moment (Se) and she’s able to get things to fall into place...most of the time. Definitely Se in her nature, so I could also see ESTP as well, but her Fe seems to be her biggest blind spot and she lashes out when she’s upset. And to quote mbti notes, “However, tertiary Ni often leads to very superficial judgment, more likely to carelessly dismiss deeper meaning or potential for growth (due to higher Se). Tertiary Ni is more likely to have a dejected or cynical attitude about what is possible in life (than dominant Ni).” Let’s not forget how she ended s4 by refusing to say she made a huge mistake. ISTP. 

Lucille - another tough one. I’m sure most people would put her as an ENTJ since that’s normally considered “the mastermind”, but I don’t know. I’ve always said the child most like her is Michael, so I could definitely see ESTJ. Te-Ne would explain how she’s able to think so quickly on her feet, both in regards to lying to people and with her insults. She’s definitely set in her ways, a definite Si related trait. Her active blind spot is definitely her morals, much like Michael, but she’s a bit better at hiding it since she is older. ESTJ.

Tobias - I think the person who typed on funkymbti did a good job with ENFP. From the mbtinotes on dom Ne/inferior Si “Their failures usually involve: not being able to prioritize the best ideas to pursue/develop, carelessness with details that leads to failure, or feeling restricted such that they cannot access inspiration/hope for long periods.” Ne explains his willingness to give up the career that he had for decades as well as how he’s willing to change what kind of performing he does. I’d say FiTe works because he’s not necessarily into harmonizing and he’s definitely devoted to what he thinks is right to him, not necessarily what people tell him to do, since he has no problem pursuing an acting career despite everyone telling him it’s a dumb idea. ENFP.

George - Eh, I do my best not to think about him lol. I actually 100% agree with this person’s reading on him and would definitely say he’s an ENTJ. His family are chess pieces to him, he’s always scheming, very much a Te-Ni trait. His inferior Fi makes him pity himself when he’s stuck in a bad situation. Yeah, I’ll stick with ENTJ. 

Tony - I’m not sure there’s really enough to work with for him at this point. I’m tempted to say INFJ, since that makes him Gob’s “mirror” type, meaning his has the functions in the opposite order of Gob (ESTP would be Se-Ti-Fe-Ni and INFJ is Ni-Fe-Ti-Se), and that’s supposed to make people a “perfect” match. But, since they’re same, maybe he’s an ESTP? Lol. Well, he definitely has a singular vision like a Ni-dom would, which is making it as a magician (contrasted to Gob’s inferior Ni that he always falls back on that one vision, Tony’s whole life is definitely magic). Again, from the mbti notes page, this time on inferior Se, “In low moments of weakness, they become very rash or extreme in behavior.” This could explain what we hope is just him faking his death (where are you s5b???). He claims he’s good at faking being gay and definitely has some manipulative, suave tendencies that could be an upper Fe trait. So, yeah, why not? INFJ.

I’ll also say the Steve Holt gives me ESFJ vibes (very sweet and warm, popular, goes with the flow, values family) and Ann Veal seems like an IxFP (guided by her own morals and ethics). I could definitely be wrong, though.

[fictionalenneagrambti-blog]

Inferior Function Development

I wanted to make this post because I think it could help people who are stuck between MBTI types or just unsure of their type.

Your inferior function isn’t necessarily something you’re bad at.

For a long time, I was convinced I was an INTP because of how well-developed I thought my Ne was. I use Ne all the time. I’m a writer. English has always been my favorite subject. I was one of the best students in my philosophy class. I thought there was no way I could be an ISTJ, because everywhere I’ve seen ISTJs and inferior Ne described as lacking creativity and unable to deal in the abstract. But it’s not that simple.

For most of my life, I wanted to be an author when I grew up. I've received the highest marks in every English class I've ever taken, my teachers have always praised me for giving them “all these new ideas to think about," and I've excelled at writing about and making connections between seemingly unrelated abstract concepts. Heck, one of my English papers even won a contest and was published in a literary journal. There’s no way my Ne could be inferior, right? 

Well, not necessarily. 

It took me a long time to admit to myself that writing English papers does not come easily for me at all. Sure, the finished product is always very good, but the actual writing process? It’s grueling for me. It's only good because I put so much time and effort into it. It strains my inferior function so much that writing a short English paper, where I basically have to synthesize my own ideas from scratch, can take me several days. On the flip side, writing a research paper or something else that just requires me to compile other people's information that's already there into my own words - that's easy. I can do it in one sitting. But I keep having to take breaks from English papers and I often procrastinate on them because writing them just takes so much out of me, even after all these years of doing it. So yes, I'm a good writer, but that doesn't mean it comes naturally to me.

My philosophy professor also praised me for being really insightful and good at grasping complex theories... and yet, when I took an honest look at myself, I realized that the thing that I complained about over and over again to other people was how "abstract" and "useless" philosophy was. Sure, I was "good" at it by some standards, but that doesn't mean that I enjoyed it or that it was easy for me. 

So I guess what I’m saying is, in trying to figure out your type, don’t just assume that you aren’t a certain type because you’re not bad at what that type is stereotyped to be bad at. You could be an IxFP that organizes and implements their plans a lot, an IxTP that goes out of their way to accommodate people’s feelings, an INxJ that has good coordination and reflexes and is captain of a sports team, or an ENxP that catches the details. You get the idea. 

Instead of asking yourself whether you’re bad at something, it is useful to ask: Is this something that is effortless for me, or does it take a lot out of me? Can I do it for hours on end, or do I tire of it very quickly, requiring frequent breaks? Do I really enjoy doing this, or do I actually kind of hate it sometimes? Is this something that is natural for me, or have I only gotten good at it with lots of work and practice?

Also, keep in mind that behavior does not indicate type. It’s not the writing itself that strains my Ne (as I said earlier, expository writing comes easily for me), it’s the writing process - namely synthesizing ideas.

Sure, this won’t be true for all people. For those who don’t bother to ever use or develop their inferior function, they will match their type’s stereotypes of being “bad” at it. It’s also worth noting that even those who have good use of their inferior function will still never attain the level of those who have the same function at a higher level, if it is also equally well-developed. Although I’m a good writer, I’m sure that an Ne-dom who invested as much time and effort into it as I do would be even better in regard to exploring different ideas and concepts. There are also other aspects of Ne that I truly am bad at, such as reading into other people’s motives, since that’s just not something you can really improve, no matter how much effort you put in. That’s how I know my Ne is inferior.

[katpaulww1]

My sis makes fun of me when I talk about zodiacs but she goes on and on about enneagrams like that's more or less exactly the same thing

[pinkcolormentality]

I don't want to rain on anyone's sense of identity, but generations aren't real. The only generation defined by the Census Bureau is the Baby Boomer generation. "Millennial" has disputed beginning and ending points. It mainly just means "young people today." And Gen Z is, I guess, anyone younger than you.

[jgguks-blog]

Hey quick question: do you know how to differentiate INFP and ENFP? I heard they are very similar and hard to type?

i’m no expert but !! sure !! here is how i tell the difference:

- ENFPs are better with confrontational situations since they can look at a situation objectively a lot better than an INFP can (though both of them prefer clash-free environments)

- both being of the SF pattern they are warm, people-loving types who can very much live in and enjoy the moment, but ENFPs are more obvious with their demeanour, while INFPs typically keep the SF pattern persona hidden, though it provides the energy behind their nurturing, “healing” activities and their interest in performing arts and exhibiting creativity

- however, under right circumstances and around the right people, INFPs will be willing to show their SF side more actively, and can appear quite extroverted then (hence the confusion), but the key is that it takes them time to open up that side, whereas ENFPs are more inclined to show it from the get-go.

- INFPs have the virtue of patience and are better at observation. they are better at listening to instructions obediently, compared to the ENFP who will immediately begin adding their own insight and questions

- ENFPs may be better at reading people’s emotions in the moment, while an INFP’s strength relies more on walking away from the situation and then reading the person’s actions and deciphering them at the core afterwards

- INFPs tend to keep their emotions to themselves, while ENFPs are open with their emotions

- ENFPs will likely jump into a project and decide how they feel about it afterwards. INFPs will think about the project and decide how they feel first, then proceed to work on it

they both have a bad habit of fantasizing about things and losing themselves in their little worlds, often to escape from their problems, but ENFPs are more likely to lose themselves in the external world while INFPs will lose themselves in their internal world

it’s the type of comparison that is hard to differentiate if you’re typing someone else, but easy to know if you’re typing yourself