#alien stage thoughts

[seviinoxiel]

Alien Stage Round 6 Thoughts

Ivan hated that kiss. Ivan hated that he had to resort to forcing himself on Till to save him.

He has always mourned that Till does not look at him but he is also, at the same time, satisfied with the distance of his unrequited love. The fact that he had to close that distance and literally hold Till in his grasp is a testament to how far he is willing to go and how much he is willing to sacrifice for Till.

Ivan broke his own boundaries as much as he broke Till's and he established a connection with Till that risks subjecting him to pain just to save him. Ivan looked down on Sua for leaving behind Mizi all alone with a broken heart and called her actions selfish, but Ivan likely realized that perhaps it is that selfishness that is needed to save his Till.

The deep love that Ivan harbored for so long was only truly realized in an act of sacrifice, by reluctantly taking active steps to have Till see him at the cost of his life and the safety provided to Till by an unrequited love. Ivan pulls Till into his embrace in the form of that sacrifice, telling him, "I am here. Look at me. I love you, so you must live. I'm sorry."

[alienstagess]

I love how to them it’s just a movie and to the fandom it’s an actual horror movie…

Some other things I was thinking about was the pairings, is this going to take on a different vibe than alien stage, it seems more like a circus but I still think it will involve singing. Something I’ve also been thinking about is, is it going to be the same as the original and have the same deceased..? OR will it reverse the roles and have something like Ivan winning instead of till. Also makes me wonder how similar their character motivations will be- are they purely zombies and like in most have limited thinking capacity except to destroy and eat? (Like in classic horror movies?) or will they have characters motivations and want to escape like in the real alien stage…

Hyuna also mentions they’re going to burn the underground all down… that’s pretty much how the actual alien stage ended.. so there is some parallels that we can see between the zombie stage and alien stage.. except zombie stage states where the show never ends; could imply they force the zombies to continue over and over again the same performance..? And maybe they don’t die when they lose? Because we do see them cleaning up someone and then putting them on stage.. is this an aftermath of a performance? Or solely apart of their zombie nature?

These are honestly just some random thoughts nothing to take super seriously !! This is entirely speculation!! May update or change this as things come!

[swampvoid]

Y'all

I've been wondering...how come the Aliens hadn't euthanised Till early, If he had a history of being outwardly aggressive? (They could have, right? What happens to the kids deemed unworthy of debuting?)

Well, in the "TOP 3" video, we see, that Till Is super popular. In one of his solo scenes, we see him "flipping the bird", except - he's showing his index finger, not his middle finger. It's not uncommon for entertainment agencies to manufacture a "rebellious persona".

I assume, that to the Aliens human emotions are a source of entertainment. They saw Till's agressive tendencies and decided, to market them. By that logic, Mizi's trauma of losing Sua is also played out for entertainment.

So, rather than trying to curb Till's aggressive tendencies, they're trying to keep him sedated, so that he "stays put" and doesn't rebel against the system.

The "TOP 3" are Till, Ivan and Luka. They all seem to have a clearly defined persona - Ivan is "stoic and mysterious", Luka is "The Prince" and Till is "wild rocker guy". It's also noteworthy, that Ivan's solo shots look like brand deals, symbolic of how he's willing to work with the Aliens.

On the other hand, Mizi is "The Diva". Her persona Is based on appearance and skill, rather than on hyperbolised personality traits.

Lastly, Till and Hyuna as parallels...I feel, that if we ever saw her, as a competitor, she'd have a persona similar to Till's. "All In" is a loud rock song, with "I Love Myself" message. I could write more about Hyuna in the context of "All In", but for now...Hyuna and Till are both "rebellious types", except Hyuna was able to break away from the script, while Till wasn't.

[lilac-udon]

Alien stage thoughts on R7 prediction

hopeful thinking this is Sua, and they all will return back from the dead on October Halloween

so from the promotional art, is Luka and till going on stage, it looks like they are going to sing together… I thought they would take some time until round 7 starts, like an All in intermission before the final. Till is crying(?), his mental state is concerned, and how the art book keeps mentioning Luka being the genius, without outside force it is hard to picture an outcome of Till winning (even though I deeply want him to)

So, If Till loses, I am going to pull out my Luka was kissing Sua's hand in R5 theory. I believe he has access to previous candidates and the Aliens stores them up. Even though pet humans are pets, I still think their bodies weren't tossed away, especially with how much money they invested. But this is a hopeful thought of them not completely dead, I do think Vivions WILL write them dead, to me I think Ivan is more dead than Sua, and Vivious does say Sua will return, however, this series will become Sicfi, and the emotion will go cheap if all of them is still alive

I just don't think the series will end here. I think Hyuna will definitely interrupt the final, but she got shot…I was waiting for Luka and her to sing together, but instead, we got Till's third song...Mizi mizi we need you... we really need more mizisua to make the story more balanced. we need more on how Hyuna escaped I guess if we can

very far off ridiculous headcanon- -Luka's owner wants the perfect human candidate, so I can see him continue collecting fallen candidates, and that is why I see Luka do have the ability to be close to all those behind the scenes and Sua Ivan possible return -Those robots in All in and R5 are very inefficient, and why they are sized basically like a human. How I imagine the lack of resources

[alienstagess]

This is interesting because Ivan made his death so memorable that it is engraved into anyone who witnessed its minds permanently. His death was one of the leading causes for Till’s it wormed its way into his mind and despite his act of nonchalance he did care to some degree about Ivan and his passing otherwise it wouldn’t have affected him so much. Ivan was always sort of an outcast we can kinda interpret that through nowhere which can be read as a double meaning as now here and no where. This aligns I believe with the interpretation of him being seen as some kind of bug. People hate bugs, avoid them, forget about them, and get rid of them with minimal remorse. Bugs have a tendency to sacrifice themself for the sake of the hive or colony. Interesting how it sounds like Ivan’s actions in cure. No matter what no matter how freakish people may view him he’s now permanently engraved into their skulls, a bug like existence that will refuse to go away after death. He is now here and nowhere simultaneously at the same time. If he is a bug you know seen as bothersome and annoying a presence no one would miss, could be more insight as to motivations as to why he sacrificed himself. These are not canon but just some thoughts! I mean Ivan knew what he was doing in the round with till he was going to self sacrifice but maybe it wasn’t fully there in selflessness- what if it was done with intention of making his bothersome presence worth it to leave a lasting memory. Or it could maybe be talking about how Ivan has worked his way into Till’s mind and the result of it being the fact till can’t forget about Ivan. It’s like a parasite to those around him. The cover also features centipede like creatures and often times in literature they generally have negative connotations such as repression, anger or even foolishness. (Could be referencing how his guardian viewed cure or maybe even Till’s thoughts on what Ivan did???) To continue on with that point they can also have another meaning of a secret or reprised desire or trait. Ivans repressed desire was Till (he held it back for so long and then in cure is when it came out) but maybe he had another intention of wanting to be unforgotten so that way at least in the eyes of his beloved he would be seen. He does also say thank you for being the victim of my shallow emotions- maybe it wasn’t all about love maybe it was also about the stuff I discussed earlier about him wanting to be remembered and memorable. I believe Ivan wanted to fit in and play with others but he was always an outcast the ones standing off in the back ground watching rather than being an active participant. Maybe his motivation was as I said to leave something worth behind. And maybe this could relate to Mizi finding out about the details of Ivans death and realizing the entire time hiw he was feeling about Till. I believe- don’t quote me on this could very well be incorrect that VIVINOS said at a fansign Till WASNT even aware of Ivan’s feelings until cure happened which if that is true could add a whole other meaning to this title and image.

Anyway these are just some theories and thoughts nothing is canon I just like to think about some of these ideas! Please don’t take this too serious just some speculation and thoughts :))!

[alienstagess]

Anyone else notice this cool detail when the anniversary album covers are lined up? (Also here’s your not so happy reminder that Ivan was the only one in the series that didn’t have someone willing to sacrifice themself for him)

[alienstagess]

Hyuna is fed with hate and so the hearts are leaking from her brain- they’re not travelling up from her throat and she’s not starved for love. She knows she has it. She knows luka loves her. She is acting with her brain not heart. Her death is not based on love and sacrifice but revenge. Luka on the other hand has hearts coming out of his neck. He’s starved. Ravished and desperate. He loves her and he is starved by the gnawing feeling. He may wear a smile for the crowd but the cracks in his face reveal his true emotions. Hyuna is no longer going to be there. The one thing he ever cared about is ripping themselves away from him when he just got her back. He’s starving for her love and attention and instead all he will get is a horrible intervention.