| This is NOT meant to be read as strictly canon. It is analysis and personal interpretation based on what’s in the actual canon and based off my own perspectives—sometimes with add ons from others and headcanons as well. Feel free to disagree, agree, reinterpret, or question at will.||
This is a WIP.
OTHERTALE:
My Othertale Rewatch.
Part 1 and Part 2 of the [experiment] analysis.
Wingdings Translation for [experiment].
Caring short analysis.
Nicknames.
Why I think Othertale Asgore and Toriel should have stayed together.
Misc on MTT, Amber, Ivory, alphyne, etc.
Fan decided birthdays.
Nicknames for the rest of the crew.
COLOR!SANS:
Color’s Name: 1 and 2.
Real Life Equivalents for Color’s psychical fragility.
His sass.
Color in the Sans Hazard comic.
Why does he keep living?
Wouldn’t he help Horror and Dust too?
Color’s boundaries and his violence.
Do I think Color struggles to adjust to change?
Color and joining the Star Sanses.
Color on the topic of Siblings.
Color Yap Sesh.
What type of photography Color would be interested in.
THE VOID/POST VOID:
The Effects of His Captivity.
Sensory deprivation, severe sensory sensitivity, and cleithropohobia.
So was rewatching Othertale: Before the Hack (part 1) a few days ago and posting about it, which you can find here, and i was taking notes as i did.
You can also find the link to my analysis of the [caring] animation here, and my analysis of the [experiment] animation here and here.
And happy 9th birthday to both Othertale, and Color Sans!
“Undyne, or Ivory, comes from an AU called Othertale. She can play piano and has a nice sense of music, but can’t sing. She’s much weaker than her Undertale counterpart.
In this AU, Sans never existed (aside from a mysterious sock in the house that Undyne and Papyrus eventually move in to.)
And instead, Undyne—an orphaned street kid blind in one eye with her red hair in a braid—starts looking after an even younger orphaned kid named Papyrus from bullies and thieves. Before eventually, the two decide to stick together as siblings.
Due to being more focused on looking after and raising Papyrus, Undyne does not have any goals to join the Royal Guard or free the Underground or capture any humans.
She cares more about her little brother than anything, and even uses piano skills to eventually become something of a celebrity for the Underground while Papyrus goes on to become a math teacher.
Othertale Undyne grows up in a universe where Sans doesn’t exist, Papyrus is her younger adoptive brother, and she had to work to keep herself and her brother alive.
Using her skills in piano playing to perform concerts, she earns enough to get herself and her brother off the streets.
She seems to take this very seriously, such as being nervous and not sleeping, staying up all night practicing. Especially since she’s become so well know that even King Asgore and Gerson Head of the Royal Guard would be there.
Neither she nor Papyrus have plans to join the Royal Guard, so Gerson is still the captain of the Royal Guard.
Neither Papyrus nor Undyne have any official training, although Undyne and the Royal Scientist Alphys are still love interests—with Alpyhs being Papyrus’ Undernet friend, and appearing to have a celebrity crush on Undyne—even giving her a gift for her big concert.
Because the six human souls also don’t exist in Othertale, breaking the barrier isn’t possible. Mettaton operates more like a living weapon than a star, and the amalgamates don’t exist either. Although Flowey still does.
In the present day of Othertale, many monsters have mysteriously been going missing; with the King himself having to speak on the issue.
It is unclear if Undyne is any concerned about this, given how she readily goes on walks alone with Alphys and was eager to explore an abandoned sentry station that showed up out of nowhere when she heard someone calling her name from it.
One day, however, Undyne is lured into the Void through a sentry station; she hears someone calling her name but no one else can hear it. She decides to immediately go exploring because she wants to have fun. She is rather pushy when Alphys is too scared to go in and explore, but ultimately doesn’t force the other woman to go in.
But inside she is confronted by Gaster and Sans/Color!Sans. She doesn’t understand what’s going on, but is knocked out by a magic fueled punch by Color that transfers some of Color’s “soul power” into her, which opened Undyne’s “blind eye.”
Ivory is not afraid to defend herself; not hesitant at all to summon one of her spears and point it at Gaster when he advances on her, warning him to stay back or else she will hurt him. Although she only does this when he attempts to make a move towards her.
She seems very very nervous about her concert, and she doesn’t seem to have been ready for the level of attention and popularity her skills brought her.
Due to her magic eye that Color unlocked, she seems able to immediately tell if there’s danger nearby; like a warning, perhaps from Color himself. She seems to trust her instincts a lot, immediately ditching her big concert and audience to follow her gut and run straight into danger.
When she finds Alphys injured, she’s furious and fiercely protective; demanding to know who did it in a low growling tone.
Once making sure Alphys is okay, her immediate concern after is her brother and his safety. But rather than immediately running off and abandoning Alphys, she expresses this to her—and after getting reassurance that the other woman is okay and understands, she gives Alphys a tight hug before running off after Papyrus.
As soon as she finds and protects Papyrus, she orders her brother to run and get help while she fights off against the other monster attacking him on her own.
She’s able to shortcut a lot like Sans is able to now. Her eye glows like Sans’ did, only yellow this time. Her fish ears/gills pin back when she’s scared.
When she gains her second form, her hair is chopped off to what appears to be about ear length. Her spears are stronger and longer, and she has her own Gaster Blasters.
She dresses like an Underfell Undyne in this form—and she wears a heart shaped golden necklace with the letter “f” on it.
We don’t know where she got it, what it means, who it came from—but it was said to be a gift from someone.”
^ the images I am referring to. (All art by superyoumna.)
This part is in reference to the [experiment] short, and the brother & sister comic.
Before Gaster jumped into the Core and Sans was forgotten in the Void to create Othertale, back when the universe was still Undertale—this universe seems to subscribe to the idea that both Sans and Undyne’s magical eyes were due to experiments by Dr. Gaster.
Sans says that Dr. Gaster made a mistake when giving him his eye, that it made Sans’ body extremely unstable and fragile—and possibly more, although Sans doesn’t seem to hold it against Gaster even when Gaster holds it against himself.
Sans reassures Undyne that Gaster won’t make that same mistake with her, but when the experiment finally works and Undyne is able to see from her fake eye, Gaster immediately tells Sans to remove the soul energy or it would damage Undyne’s body.
Undyne during this flashback seems to be around 5, while Papyrus is at most 1-2, and Sans seems to be in his late teens to early 20s. When Sans is pulled into the Void and the world is rewritten to forget Sans and make Othertale, Ivory’s eye is blind again and later needs to be reactivated by Color transferring his soul energy back to her.
All a part of Color and Shade’s plan to empower Ivory with knowledge and power so she can fight against the impending threat, since Color and Shade cannot leave the Void without the risk of dying.
Despite how Ivory and Shade’s meeting in Othertale’s Void is confronting and wary, in the past, child Undyne seemed to find comfort in Gaster and trusted him a lot—such as wanting him to share in her happiness, being worried about him when he leaves in frustration, and saying that the lab is spooky without him around.
As a child after Sans is forgotten, however, it appears little Ivory met little Sage sometime after an event just referred to as “the explosion.” And ever since then, Sage only ever sought Ivory out whenever the other children would steal from and bully him—and Ivory would beat up the bullies for him and get his stuff back.
One day, while searching for a rubix cube in the garbage dumps, a frantic and crying Sage runs up to Ivory to tell her that the others kids stole his toy car.
Ivory notes that he only ever comes to her when he needs protection. Sage immediately apologizes for this, but Ivory quickly corrects herself as that wasn’t what she meant—this is the moment where Ivory proposes that Sage stick with her instead of surviving on his own.
Sage is reluctant to accept because even though they are friends, they are still strangers. In answer to this, Ivory gives Sage her rubix cube and loudly states that they are neither friends nor strangers—instead they are siblings.
Sage immediately gets excited by this idea, and the two proudly and loudly declare that they are siblings—and Sage promises to always look up to her and support her as his big sister and as the “great Papyrus!”
I didn't realize until somewhat recently that the ref pic I have for JumbleTale is suuuper blurry lol... I thought about trying to reupload the pictures separately, but then I decided to update them first cuz there were some things that kinda bothered me anyways, so here are the updates; a big one for height ref and some basic, general notes (mostly stolen from the original post) and I think I'll just reblog with each character's new pic and an updated profile.
First thing's first, everyone’s souls are displayed here and, while monsters do have white souls, the light they give off is tinted slightly, which reflects character traits and magic affinity; not that a monster can't learn magic that doesn't match their soul color, but it's easier to learn magic that does. That said, here's everyone's attributes and callsigns (which will all be more in-depth in their personal profiles), from left to right:
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Serif Sans is Blue, Integrity, and since he's permanently displaced, he always goes by his callsign, which technically is 'Serif'.
Since he isn't native to JumbleTale, a different set of rules apply to him, but he is still associated with a soul color. Blue, or Dark Blue, is associated with Integrity; not that Serif can’t lie, he actually lies a lot, but he stays true to who he is, to his core beliefs and principles, no matter what he goes through. Which actually becomes a recurring problem, as he was forced to embrace the persona of the Lab Assistant/Test Subject that Guile forced on him for the sake of survival, and the soul piece changing him drastically, integrating into his personality rather than separate entities sharing a body. However...
“Despite everything, it’s still you.”
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Papyrus is Yellow, Justice, and his callsign is Lucky 13, Lucky Papyrus, or just Lucky. It's based on his old Lab nickname as the Former Royal Scientist's 13th, and most successful, clone. He has taken the place of Sans as Judge and Sentry.
Lucky inherited his yellow soul from the Former Royal Scientist, but not what made the Scientist a boss monster. Despite being raised and trained to be a weapon, Lucky always had a strong sense of right and wrong no matter how much the Scientist tried to beat it out of him. He cares less about what’s technically legal than he does about what’s fair and equitable.
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Sans is Purple, Perseverance, and his callsign is Sains, based on 'Saint' but swapping the 't' for an 's'. I'm pretty sure it had its own, parallel etymology but I can't seem to find it anymore. He has taken the place of Toriel, holed up in the Ruins.
A mix of Patient and Determined, Sains was quite adept in the realm of politics, until he best friend, King Asriel, died in his arms, causing Sains to retreat from everyone and everything. His specialty is to pick apart a problem into its component parts and recognize the intricate web of side effects a potential solution might have.
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Frisk and Chara are both Red, Determination, and their callsigns are Faust and Charat respectively. Faust is the basis for a "Faustian deal with the devil" which seemed fitting, and Charat is based on 'carat' with an added 'h', the unit used to describe the purity of gold, gemstone, pearls, etc. While they retain their original positions, I 'jumbled' a lot of their personality traits.
NOTE: There are many theories that Red isn’t actually Determination, but I’m going to go with it anyways, at least until a more concrete explanation is available. And I already based their personalities on my former understanding.
The easiest way to describe Faust and Charat is to compare them to each other, so that's what I'll be doing. Despite both being very Red, Faust leans more towards Brave Orange while Charat leans more towards Persevering Purple, ending up at a more raspberry color to Faust's blood orange. While Faust is more likely to brute force a solution, Charat will step back and analyze the situation before finessing a solution. While not technically related to soul color, Faust’s lack of empathy makes him more ready, willing, and able to do literally anything it takes to accomplish his goals, no matter who he hurts along the way.
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Alphys is Orange, Bravery, and her callsign is Amber Alphys or just Amber. I mostly picked it for the gold-orange color, the semi-precious 'gem' stone, and Amber Alphys rolls off the tongue really well. She takes the place of Papyrus, the Rookie trying to get into the Royal Guard.
While it might be surprising that the shy and nervous Amber could be considered 'brave', she perfectly embodies the phrase “Courage isn’t the lack of fear; it’s being scared to death and moving forward anyways”. She was trained in many of the same programs as Lucky, and was supposed to be assigned as a bodyguard and steed, likely to some politician; they bonded and Lucky made sure to extract her when the Labs collapsed after the Former Royal Scientist was erased from existence, adopting her as his little sister as he set them up in Snowdin. She can admit that she's powerful and skilled in combat, but she lacks confidence in social interactions, mostly due to lack of experience during her youth in the Labs.
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Mettané (Mettaton) is technically Purple, Perseverance, and his callsign is Starling, like the pretty song bird. While his position hasn't changed, his origins have; 'blooks' are now a type of ghost-like monster that have replaced all of the Temmies of Temmie Village, and Napstablook runs what used to be the Tem Shop.
I say Starling is 'technically' purple, because he's bordering red, ending up at a hot pink/magenta color, and is surprisingly similar to Chara, who is a red bordering purple. While Starling is just as dramatic as his robotic counterparts, he inhabits a mannequin in a wheelchair (until Serif himself ends up making his robot body) and is more focused on puzzles and riddles than entertainment and fame. He finds great satisfactions in solving mysteries and detangling the mess that the Former Royal Scientist left behind has become his fulltime job now. While most interpretations of Mettaton are a bit of a gossip, Starling knows how to keep a secret, or at least how much he can get away with saying before trust is breached.
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Toriel is Green, Kindness, and her callsign is Doc Toriel, because it sounds like 'doctoral', though it is sometimes shortened to Doc Tori. She obviously takes Alphys' place as Royal Scientist, though more focused on chemistry than robotics.
The driving force behind basically everything Doc Toriel does is the deep seated need to help others. This is the main reason she accepted the title of Royal Scientist after the Labs collapsed; not because she loves science, but because she wanted to use the position to help the Lab victims as best she could. Bordering cyan, making her more of a teal/turquoise, highlights her patient and nurturing nature. This also makes her the perfect foil for Starling when working with Lab victims, bringing a gentleness Starling lacks while digging into the truth.
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Asgore is Cyan, Patience, and his callsign is Asguard, a play off the Norse realm of the Gods, Asgard, and his position as Captain of the Royal Guard, taking Undyne's spot.
Rounding out the group, Asguard embodies patience in every aspect of his life, from training newbie Guards to dealing with the general public as a Peacekeeper to handling politics as Captain. Patience and Kindness often go hand-in-hand, so many incorrectly think he's a green, but really he just utilizes a gentle hand to get the results he wants. Asguard has no problem using force when needed, which a green might find difficult to follow through on.
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Some interesting notes about design choices, in no particular order, are:
Amber's coat and dress are the same colors as Lucky's vest and shirt, respectively.
Doc Toriel's apron is her Royal Scientist uniform; white lab coats were optional anyways and she likes differentiating herself from the trauma of The Labs. Before the Underground, the uniform was made of leather and styled more like a Blacksmith's apron, since that's more-or-less what the job entailed, but now days it's just sturdy brown cloth. I always did like brown and purple as a color combo.
Asguard's head and mane were really hard for me to wrap my head around for some reason, so I took a shortcut and traced Simba from The Lion King before I started messing with the design. He still looks a lot like Simba, for better or worse, but I did modify it a bit more this time around. His outfit in general was really difficult to settle on.
I swapped the stripe colors of Faust's and Charat's shirts, partially to reference their jumbled character traits, but also because I think Yellow Justice suits Faust and Purple Perseverance suits Charat better than the other way around.
Sains is the only boss monster displayed here, though King Asriel, Queendyne, and the Former Royal Scientist are all Boss Monsters as well. Boss Monster souls give off more color than their regular counterparts and this can be used to identify them as early as a few years old. In trying to expand on this I’ve come to realize that I really need to write a full post about how Boss Monsters work in JumbleTale, and probably get into monster reproduction as well.
For Starling's wheelchair, I took colors form Mettaton's original box form. Turns out, wheelchairs are really fucking hard to draw. Starling's in particular is based on a more sporty, versatile wheelchair design rather than the common hospital-style wheelchair most people think of.
Asgore and Toriel are often compared to goats but I always thought they looked like they had some lion-like traits as well. Since Doc Toriel and Asguard are not boss monsters and are not related in any way, I decided to highlight these differences by making Doc Toriel a pure goat monster and Asguard a horned lion, bordering manticore.
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While not pictured, I know the soul colors of several other important, or at least interesting, characters as well.
The Former Royal Scientist was a Just Yellow, which Papyrus inherited; he could 'justify' anything as being 'for the greater good'.
Queendyne, or Queen Undyne, is a Brave Orange, bordering Red, and is a bit of a political wrecking ball. She is similar to Faust in the same was Starling is similar to Charat.
Frisk’s cousin, Marriweather or Marri, took them in before they fell and is a Kind Green bordering Yellow, making her a sort of olive green, and we’ll see more of her later.
Spear Mouse (Scarf Mouse) is a True Blue while Bronze Masque (Nacarat Jester/Red Demon) is a Patient Cyan, despite his coloration.
Doggo Dodger and his protégé Tom Cat (Burgerpants) are Patient Cyan and Brave Orange respectively; they fit together like puzzle pieces.
Here is the script for Othertale: Before the Hack. {You can find the official, finished, animated version on this blog—and some of the content seems to be in the comics, which you can also find on this blog.}
Here is three scripts from Othertale Shorts, including pre-canon stuff.
Two of the chapters involve content from the Brother and Sister comic that superyoumna made, and one from the Experiment short—both of which you can find on this blog.
Othertale and its characters, story, osts, drawings and animations belong to superyoumna. Every other au character not in Othertale belong to their respective creators.
Here is a link to masterpost, and here is a link to the Google doc I made.
Not everything here, such as the sans hazard comics, epic sanses, and the abyss team, is strictly canon to Othertale or Color/Gaster, but why not put it in?
Things are not reblogged in order or anything, it’s just sorted via tags which i sometimes probably forgot. Anything reblogged here for awhile is probably queued, and i won’t go through and sort anything until the queue is empty.
Tomorrow is Othertale and Color’s fan decided birthday. September 16th is when the comics first came out.
Ivory’s, aka Othertale Undyne’s, birthday is September 27th. The day the Othertale: Before the Hack (part 1) animation came out.
Sage’s, aka Othertale Papyrus’, birthday is March 13th. This is the day the full reference sheet for the full Othertale va cast dropped, and also it’s on a 13th—which leads to Gaster’s.
Shade’s, aka Othertale Gaster’s, birthday is October 13th. This is the day superyoumna made a headcanon about Gaster being a creepy floating head, and tagged it #othertale. Also October is a the spooky month which is fitting for Shade.
Amber, which has been the decided nickname for Othertale Alphys, has been given September 17th or 19th, since her other first appearances—September 16th and March 13th—are already taken.
Was thinking about this post again and started thinking about nicknames for characters like the Innkeeper, her child, and her sister the Shopkeeper, as well as Grillby.
So for Innkeeper I got Rosemary. Sage calls her Aunt Rosemary or Aunt Rosie.
For her child, I got Alba. In Latin, it apparently means “dawn” or “white.”
And for the Innkeeper’s sister, the Shopkeeper, I got Violet. Sage and Alba call her Auntie Vi.
For Grillby, I was thinking a nickname could be Pyra or Kindle. As is the habit for Sage, he calls him Uncle Grillby, but he’s just Mr.Grillby to Ivory.
Mettaton can be Aurelia, which is apparently Latin for golden—or depriving from the word aureus. Or maybe we can just call him Aureus.
So far, for Othertale nicknames, we got Color (Sans + souls), Shade (Gaster), Sage (Papyrus), Ivory (Undyne), Amber (Alphys), Rosemary/Aunt Rosie (Innkeeper), Alba (Innkeeper’s child), Violet/Auntie Vi (Shopkeeper, Rosemary’s sister and Alba’s ‘bio’ aunt), and Aurelia or Aureus for Mettaton.
Asgore can be Cobalt, Toriel can be Opal, and Gerson can be Sienna.
