I also think Ben may "turn" early in the movie and the final climax is not his redemption per se, but them confronting Palpatine, Palpatine trying to turn Rey or Ben against each other and them realizing their feelings with Ben doing something heroic and sacrificial. I feel that Daisy comment about "exploring" redemption might tell more than we think, they prolly won't do a last minute thing but they'll work together for 2/3 or the movie.
LOOKS AROUND SUSPICIOUSLY. THIS is what I want. Did you read my mind, Nonnie? Lol. I would love to see them interact throughout the move and see Kylo interact with Rey's friends, like that is what I want.
And the ultimate temptation--and a noble sacrifice?! Oh. My. Goodness. Okay, so not to make everything about Revan and Bastila, but *spoilery* at the end of KotOR, Bastila falls to the dark side and Revan has to try to save her (either bring her back to the light, or join her on the dark side). She begs Revan to kill her (it's very dramatic), but Revan does save her and goes on to battle Darth Malak.
And good god damn, with the Emperor there to egg things on (ultimate evil!!!), just like he did with Luke and Vader in RotJ. OHHH I'M TOO WORKED UP. TOO WORKED UP.
Would Ben sacrifice himself to keep her safe? Would she for him? I think it could happen. And, with this being a film that's meant to heal a generational wound and ultimately save the Skywalkers (help them rise, being the ultimate conclusion to Anakin's story as being told through his grandson, where Ben, with the proper help and understanding, will be able to succeed where Anakin failed. I JUST HAVE TOO MANY EMOTIONS).
But where Anakin paid with his life and wasn't actually able to heal the wounds he caused because he died (which then passed down via Luke and Leia, and were exasperated by Palpatines's influence) BEN will be able to atone and help bring balance to his family and, by extension, the Force.
Okay. Okay. That's a lot of speculating and it's late and I have a headache. But. BUT. FUN.
Good chat, Nonnie! Thank you!







