#anti willow

[anti-willo-recluse]

Idk if I should give the post link..

Basically: i saw some pro endo confessions page post a confession that admits "we should normalise harassment and hate towards traumgenics for oppresing us” (the blog owner only tagged "disclaimer: we do not condone harassment" as if they didint posted confession and hide this disclaimer under tags in just case semoene conforts them💀)

"anti endos piss me off so bad that i want to run harassment campaigns against them. i think more people should be aggressive and hateful to them. like if you say you're anti endo you wake up to an inbox full of people telling you to die. i recognize these are bad thoughts but like, it feels justified because that's what they do to us. we're powerless to stop the hate since the entire world hates us so why not be violent and evil."

Those people did not used to be a hate groub. They STILL ARE. "Evil" and "violent" as if they didin't ripped off our places, as if they didin't stole medical terms, as if they didin't spread misinformation about our condition and normalised roleplaying it. As if they didin't already caused so many forced syscovery on people that didin't even had CDD. As if they don't promote their disorder as "make everyone plural!" which means "give everyone childhood traumas".

Fuck you, anon. Whoever you are. You will never be valid.

They're getting too comfortable as a hate groub. I've never seen an anti endo confessions blogs post about harassment towards endos. Idk how they think they deserve to treat us like this🤷‍♂️ + there will be also asshole antis, however the most people I've seen have been more chill than most endos I've seen. I used to be neutral—I know what am I talking about.

This post is not up for debate fuck off. Do not violate my DNI you sickos

[syscutie]

endogenics are not real here, i said it. and if you disagree block me your mind can't just split to protect itself without trauma, it simply cant. your mind can't form parts without repeated trauma when you were a child. your mind can't do that. there is no actual scientific proof that endogenics are real you endos keep stealing system terms, spreading misinformation, keep invading system spaces and just make our disorder look like a silly cute joke, when living with DID, OSDD, P-DID and any CDD is just not fun its not "silly cute friends in your head", but you endogenics are making it look like that sadly. being a system is not quirky, its not fun, its not cute, its not silly friends in your head, its something i have to suffer with every single day and it feels like you endogenics water it down so much.

[anti-willo-verlaine]

"What if it's proven right?"

If professional, scientific evidence is released that systems can form without trauma, then I will retract my statement and stop posting anti-endo content. However, it has not. There is no evidence of trauma based disorders being possible without trauma.

And when I say evidence, I do not mean citing a .com site, or a caard or however it's spelled, a professional who said it COULD be possible, but more research must be looked into it. I mean actual studies, hard factual evidence that proves of the existence of nontraumagenic systems.

Unless genuine proof is given, I stand on my belief that systems are caused by heavy repetitive trauma from a young age, because that is what has been scientifically proven, and I'd rather believe the proven science over a group of people on the internet.

Clarification: even if they are proven to exist, I still don't believe that we need to share spaces with them. If endos can truly exist without trauma, then their experiences are far different than traumagenic systems, and they shouldn't act like they do.

[flameguyirl]

why is it so difficult for pro endos to just... tag their shit as pro endo??

Deadass. It is so time-consuming and boring to have to search through someone's blog just to see if they support ableism or not.

Tag your shit as pro endo if you're pro endo. If I accidentally interact with ableists one more time im actually gonna be pissed off. It's so much easier for everybody if you just tag correctly.

[shamilisto]

Hot take

Fakeclaiming towards endos shouldn't be a thing, not because "we can't say who is plural/system or not", because endos aren't real systems. If endos says they don't have traumas, I'll respect it and don't consider them as system or "plural". Real systems have traumas.

And you can say "but some endos systems just don't remember their traumas!" and I'll say i don't care. Endogenic is a disrespectful and ableist term. If a system consider themselves as an endogenic because they don't remember their traumas, it's just stupid and disrespectful to other system and themselves.

Syscourse doesn't exist, is just common sense.

[bake-a-fragment]

both anti-endos nd pro-endos not wanting u here is frying meee lmfao, ur flat out weird to one side and an invasive species in the other bro it's okay to admit u like making bah packs!!!!! it's fun to split headmates!!!! embrace the willomancy!!!!

Actually we have already gotten a lot of love from anti endos ^^ . This page is new, barely been a couple days, one hate from a “anti endo” won’t magically turn us pro endo . Especially when we have been harassed, sent threats, and gore by endos on our main account time after time .

We enjoy making identitys and helping fragments ! Not “willowing” headmates, force splitting headmates is such a harmful thing and encouraging systems to do that is disgusting

[endocritical-dj-pon-3]

sometimes I just think about a character and I’m like “yeah, they’re anti willo.” Like gossip girl? Anti willo. all the way.

[maneki-the-lucky]

The AWV is so silly wdym a collection of mentally ill teens and adults all got together in an attempt to stop ableism

Fighting off ableism this way is very silly fun, especially since we get to see everyone’s favorite characters