Hello! I hope you're doing great ^_^ I read your post on asteroid circe. I was wondering what it means to have circe in 8th house and aspecting to sun and pluto in natal chart? Thank you in advance :))) <3
circe (asteroid 34), what’s her sign/degree, where she sits in a chart, and her aspects
thank you for your patience and for sending me your chart!!! but after receiving quite a few asks and comments about circe aspects and placements i decided to continue the series (reminders: @bitchimrawlikethat , @mishap-missy , @herwonderlandmentality , @oolabb )!
all of this is in my opinion. some of it you may be like how tf did she come up with this. my answer: intuition and experience with other people's charts that i have available to me. warning i can be harsh: please don't take everything i say as predestined, astrology is possible outcomes not guaranteed ones. plus let's not forget orbs matter, dominance matters, etc. it's never just circe (34). this is just a starting place for when examining a single asteroid in an entire galaxy. take what resonates and leave what doesn't!
*all of these observations are based on a natal chart - solar return and persona charts will change all these observations because the context is different*
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signs/degrees
aries (1°, 13°, 25°): you too may enjoy being the queen of the island. you love power, but circe felt threatened by odysseus and his crew's presence initially as she wanted to be rid of them. you could be opposed to adventurous-spirited people and/or those who are too curious about you. you may try to get rid of those who are too curious about you or that pose a threat to your power. you may find you are easily bored - you may find it hard to follow through with a ritual (like cord cutting - you may be the type to walk away because it's taking too long (please never walk away from cord cutting rituals)) or with finishing a portion of study, but if you really want something, you can have it.
taurus (2°, 14°, 26°): you totally would turn someone you view as a threat into a pig - you'd probably sell them too. you are likely a stubborn lover - you have an unshakeable love for people, which makes it difficult when they decide to break things off with you. you are the type to reject that it is happening. you may even turn it back on them that they take you and your presence in their life for granted - and they totally do. a love like yours is rare - you would do anything for the people you love. you may do magic and manipulate others to turn a profit though.
gemini (3°, 15°, 27°): you are probably the type of ex-lover / vengeful lover who ceases communication. i have seen people with this placement and even the degree completely withdraw from communication with the people they "love" when they do something "wrong". and it sucks because we really do take your communication/conversation for granted - we only know it after you are gone. but with great power comes great responsibility - you may tend to manipulate others because you know just how badly they want you in their life. on the other hand, though these placements tend to have extensive knowledge about the occult - they enjoy studying the world of magic and have a natural curiosity about it.
cancer (4°, 16°, 28°): you are probably a vengeful lover being ruled by the moon with this placement. your mood and feelings towards your lover change often - one day, you'll be devoted to them, and the next, you'll be almost (or totally) spiteful towards them. you are likely opposed to the newcomers in your life - you have a lovely home and garden; why do you need some strangers coming in and ruining that for you? you are likely an introvert who likes doing their own thing - people might take for granted that you "like being alone" or "being in your home" though and don't invite you places (odysseus didn't invite circe to go back to the mainland with him). you are the most likely of the signs to practice ritual magic.
leo (5°, 17°, 29°): your courtships might be complicated. you might be super loyal to a person who is not as committed as you are… you are likely to experience a courtship where you are deeply in love then the other person leaves. chances are you might have (will) felt (feel) secure in the connection, and thought that there was no way they would leave. they could be with you for a long time, you might have a home together, maybe even children… then they do leave. if children are involved, leo circe people do tend to manipulate their children into disliking their ex-partner.
virgo (6°, 18°): you are likely a critical romantic partner - if they wrong you, you will do whatever is in your power to ruin their day. you are the type of vengeful that will take the fridge lightbulb, the spinning table in the microwave, poke a hole in their tire so they have a slow leak, etc. you want them to feel the pain. you are also very convincing to listen to because you carefully tell the truth in such a way that it could even lies are true (fae complex is strong in this placement lol).
libra (7°, 19°): the people you think are your companions are often the ones you should trust the least - like circe you are experiencing the lovestruck nature she had toward odysseus. your partner may also be brave and adventurous, both of these traits pique your interest, but they also may leave you to continue their life's adventure. if you don't agree with them running off and they didn't tell you beforehand that that was always the intention - you are likely to search for justice. like circe your voice likely draws people in - it is magical and musical sounding. you could be a great enchantress and/or manifester with this placement.
scorpio (8°, 20°): this is circe. at least, this is what i feel is her truest placement. you are passionate and would do anything for the people you love. but also you can be cruel and resentful towards those who have wronged you. this is the ultimate vengeful lover placement. your passions are often taken for granted - in fact, people often use you when they learn that you care or when they know you like a specific thing they will manipulate you into doing it for them. you are prone to resentment because you often only recognize that you were used after the fact. you give off extremely witchy vibes and probably practice any magic that you learn about.
sagittarius (9°, 21°): traveler often visit these placements. you are not big on traveling; you do however find yourself in the company of adventurous and well-traveled individuals. you likely aren't a very vengeful or spiteful lover - you understand what it means to live momentarily and love temporarily but fully. you are likely a very devoted partner - you could even idolize them. you likely practice culturally based magic specific to your ancestry - you may even be able to contact your ancestors (you could be a medium)!
capricorn (10°, 22°): you may take your presence in the world a bit too seriously - not everyone is supposed to become a god, queen, or famous in a lifetime. you'd be best served taking some of the expectations and responsibilities off of yourself. you will find that life gets better when you aren't anxious to be perfect. you may even find that success comes more readily then. that being said, you are likely a great presence to behold. you may be pretty intimidating due to your power. you may be a professional astrologer or witch. you may know all too well what it is like to be abandoned by others - you may find yourself utterly alone / isolated at some point in life.
aquarius (11°, 23°): you probably get too close to people too soon - you might even be too trusting towards the wrong people in your life. you may not like explorers and adventurers in your proximity, but when they prove they are brave enough to confront your mystical energy or outsmart you, you likely drop your guard. be aware though: that is still a stranger - recognize that just because wish to explore curiosities doesn't mean that you should invite them into your private realm. there are nuances to knowing people: acquaintances, friends, and intimates. try not to go 0 to 100. you likely aren't that manipulative or vengeful, which is why i am laying it on thick in your description - this might just be the most vulnerable of the circe placements. especially since you are likely a very gifted spiritualist - people may use you for your abilities.
pisces (12°, 24°): you may find you are deeply connected to everything around you - to the point that people may say you are intuitive. circe knew that the men were no good at first sight. but you may also have your rose-colored glasses on; circe saw odysseus as a hero and someone to worship - sometimes you may take gut feelings too far. circe ended up being abandoned because she didn't stick with her initial intuitive feeling - you, too, may overlook possible negatives after the first observation. you may seek revenge because you put too much stock into situations and feelings. you may love too hard and feel betrayed too harshly. you are likely a schemer; you don't like when people betray you, and you often deal out a deserving punishment. you are likely very magically inclined.
houses
1h: people likely take your ability, attitude, and confidence for granted. you have a mystical energy around you - your aura is likely very strong and of a deeper color variety. you aren't the type to get revenge on just anyone in your life; you understand the karmic cycles and you understand that the universe has your back. your morality is of a higher variety - you wouldn't willfully harm someone that has done you wrong unless they have gone too unchecked in the world. and because your attitude and morality are superior to most a lot of the time you have the power to sway/manipulate others to see the way you philosophize the situation at hand. you are likely seen mystically.
2h: you know what you give and what you receive - you keep tally. so you seek revenge on your lovers in an equal measure. you won't allow others to use you and get away with it. you will not let someone be indebted to you or you to them. you might be someone who is particularly well versed in the world of debts; thus, you can easily convince/manipulate other views on what they are owed and how they should acquire what they are owed. you may be someone who frequently does exchange readings.
3h: you may have travelers/wanderers for partners - people who take for granted that you will always be around because you yourself are most likely not a traveler. sadly, it is likely that your lovers frequently leave you and that their presence in your life is merely temporary. while they tend to come from worlds away, they often discover that they prefer where they came from as opposed to where you are. you however can persuade/manipulate/convince your romantic partners to stay longer than they would have if you were not there. with this placement, you can inherit a grimoire and/or be very talented in the art of runes or manifestation. you might be someone who reads or writes about witches (serpent and dove, a discovery of witches, near witch, etc.).
4h: you are likely a domestic queen - you know how to survive on your own and take care of yourself as well as the land around you. you likely have an impressive herb collection and/or garden. herbs are probably very imperative to your spellwork. when someone messes with your little ecosystem (the homestead and your peace within it), you are very likely to attack theirs. people may always assume that you will remain peaceful, calm, and be a homebody - they do not believe that you would leave the comfort you find there to find them. you totally would, especially if they messed with you. you likely come from a line of witches or those with ancestral roots in the practice.
5h: your lover might leave you with a child and dip. this will likely infuriate you because they promised you to stay, and it was not the case… thus you might use your child to exact your revenge on your previous lover. you might even turn your child against them and build up your child's beliefs that your ex-lover is a bad person. you do tend to be taken advantage of for your ability to love people, so you do tend to make those who have wronged you feel truly hated. you might really enjoy plays and films about witches (macbeth, stardust, the craft, etc.).
6h: your constant, unwavering presence in a person's life can be taken for granted. people tend to always assume that you will be there for them and that is not the case. you will not be the person who stays if they betray you - in fact, you are the first to leave at any hint that they are hesitant towards you. you will seek your revenge by ruining their day-to-day life - suffering is not done in a vacuum when it comes to those who have done you dirty. they say that those with a routine are the most vulnerable of people - you don't mind exploiting their own routine to get back at them. these people often have a familiar in my experience - you might have a cat or some sort of creature that is always by your side. you likely practice ritual magic.
7h: you may assume that your partners are just as committed as you are, but that doesn't tend to be the case - and when that happens, you step into your villain era and become the ultra circe. your dislike for past partners is no secret. people take advantage of your love, and you never react well to that - you don't let them get away with it. you could be manipulative in the area of agreements and romances just like you could have a gift for love magic.
8h: your vengeance against a lover is complete when they are dead, or they find they can't live without you and you have moved on. nothing is sweeter to you than total revenge - they are dead and you aren't, they can't move on but you can, etc. you can be convincing with your displays of passion - people think that you care more than you do or you care a lot about something and now the other person also cares a lot about something. but people also tend to take advantage of your passion. when they see that you love something, they exploit it and use that thing against you. on a lighter note, chances are you are passionate about the occult - you can be a very talented magic user.
9h: your revenge is often extremely meditative; it is no secret to the people around you that you are after someone. you are devoted to getting even with those who have wronged you. people take advantage of your devotion to them. if they know that you love them, they know you will do nearly anything for them - learn new languages, bring their entire family into your home, etc. they simply take advantage of this knowledge. but you tend to be on top of your game in that you are extremely crafty with your knowledge and beliefs - you can convince people of a different reality than the one that they are living in. and this could go on for years - odysseus saw really no purpose in traveling home when circe kept telling him it wasn't safe and that he should stay. but more often than not your lovers do go where you can not follow them. you could be very good at deity work, ceremonial/ritual magic, and could even have your own grimoires.
10h: you likely target the ambitions, status, and career of your ex-lovers to take them down. you don't let them have their reputation intact when they leave you - you likely don't let morality or dignity get in your way. their downfall is all that matters; you don't care how bad you look when causing it. which is ironic because they likely took advantage of your morality (they knew you would take them in when they were down on their luck), popularity, or even your professional status to get ahead - they assumed you would not do anything to tarnish their reputation if it risks your own. they are dead wrong though. you likely can be seen as right even when you are wrong because you can twist the morality in the room to favor you. you could be a professional occultist.
11h: you, like the 10h circe, target social standings to get your revenge on an ex-lover. people tend to take advantage of your group mentality - they assume that you will always be their friend even if they abandon you. you might just be "friends" with your ex-lovers so they know that you will always be there to take them down if they try to hurt you more. you might even have a shared friend group with your ex-lover because oftentimes your lover's friends become your friends (you tend to welcome those from your lover's world into your own). you have the gift to socially manipulate/convince them that you are right and those that don't agree with you are wrong. you could be good at manifesting - a lot of your wishes come true.
12h: circe had a following of large animals, so you, too, may like or have exotic pets that others typically do not have (snakes, scorpions, etc.). your greatest weapon is likely your ability to manipulate others into doing your dirty work for you. you may prefer to live in isolation - circe lived on the island alone until odysseus and his crew showed up. you may have an interest in the unknown - in terms of magic, you may find yourself curious about meditation or astral projection. you get your revenge on your ex-lovers the most frequently of the placements - mainly because you keep a lot of blackmail. you don't let other's treachery ruin you; you spin it back on them. you also have a very intriguing presence that most people are incapable of ignoring.
aspects from circe to
sun: positive aspects: you are likely an accomplished occultist - you have a natural gift where magic is concerned. you know when to be humble in the presence of those who outsmart or outrank you. you are loyal to those who have gained your respect. you are self-sufficient and have many survival skills and talents. negative aspects: you target your ex-lovers by tearing down their achievements, dignity, and fame. you may even abuse this power by turning those that are loyal to them against them. you might have an herb allergy or sensitivity. you see outsiders as people who are trying to distract you and ruin your self-sufficient lifestyle. your ego may tell you that you are acting against others in retribution meanwhile it is petty revenge.
moon: positive aspects: you are likely someone who lives very peacefully and does a lot of things for yourself. you likely maintain your household and land all by yourself in the most impressive of ways. you likely have charms throughout your home to protect its energy: sigils, selenite above doors, bells, etc. you are likely a very good cook and some may even say a magical one - you likely can make many things from scratch: lip balm, sugar scrubs, cleaning supplies, etc. you are likely very good at potions and craft work in terms of magic. negative aspects: you are cautious when letting people into your home and tend to avoid it if you can. it's not that you are insecure about the looks of where you live, you just know that when people come over they tend to stay longer than you planned and you are someone who doesn't like a lot of socializing as it tends to be very emotionally draining. people tend to take your homemaking for granted - they might not respect your home (e.g., they likely wall on your new carpets with shoes on, then could break a decor piece, etc.). you could also struggle with motherhood - your child could look like your ex-lover.
mercury: positive aspects: you could have a strong connection with animals in which they are extremely protective of you because they love and respect you. you could be very dedicated to your magical studies and have the correct mindset when practicing which allows for favorable outcomes. you can be a very convincing communicator - people frequently believe the things you tell them. negative aspects: animals can be extremely scared of you because they see/sense your power as threatening. you aren't someone who trusts others easily. you definitely aren't a fan of close groups - you likely see them as cliques and dangerous. you likely aren't a big communicator - you tend to "shoot first, ask questions later." meaning you can be on the defense in a dialogue. though often it is because you feel threatened by the unknown of the situation - often your first encounters with people tend to be abrasive. you tend to use your knowledge of others to get revenge on them.
venus: positive aspects: you have a very witchy aesthetic that is dark and intriguing. you have a high aptitude for magic and occult practices - they tend to yield positive results. you are likely a very loyal companion when you trust the other person - it can be a very intense and intimate feeling to outsiders. a lot of your new contacts develop into romantic ones when you feel attracted to them. you could be a good singer, which intrigues others to want to know more about you. you could also have an expansive garden that has so many things in it that you hardly know what everything is. negative aspects: your diplomacy could use some work for sure - a lot of unnecessary drama unfolds because you tend to be overly aggressive when people are merely curious about you and what you are doing. believe it or not, not everyone means you harm. you don't need to default to shaming others or making a spectacle of them (circe turned the crew into pigs). you could be involved in a marital affair - often it is the case that a married individual is involved with you (you typically aren't the one who is married). people tend to invite themselves over to your space - without your own knowledge or okay. a warning to the gardeners - you are likely growing something that is poisonous to you or that you have an allergy to.
mars: positive aspects: you can be a very active individual in the realm of homesteading or magic. you might have a blog of some sort that is controversial though it likely has very honest and likely has accurate thoughts about the community and/or the topics at hand (some of the youtube homesteaders i see with this aspect say things like "i'm a real person with a real budget," "this is just how it [their home] looks on a normal day," "damn that plant died - whelp that happens, not everyone has all day to babysit one plant and drip can't save every plant," etc). you keep it real. you likely are someone that helps out other individuals - you help them to maintain their "main character" energy (typically it is a romantic partner). negative aspects: you are prone to attacking others - just like the mercury aspecting people, you "shoot first, ask questions later." you are typically on the physical defense - you likely make people feel small and insignificant (circe turned the crew into pigs). you likely don't care if what you do hurts others - you want them to feel pain in hopes that it causes negative feedback/reinforcement so they stop doing what they are doing (very pavlovian lol). you can be a very cruel individual - your temper is not something others should mess around with. you may be prone to lustful activities as well - let's not forget that circe and odysseus barely knew one another, then next thing you knew, she was having three of his children.
jupiter: positive aspects: you have an abundance of witchy power (could be a known witch to society) that should not be wasted. talent like yours is not frequently found. you exchange your energy with very powerful entities be it gods, spirits, demons, or the universe. you are nonetheless a very loyal individual and always show your gratitude and appreciation. you never let these entities do something for you without recognition and appreciation. you are also someone that does a lot of your own studying and research in the world of the occult and witchcraft - similar to 3h placements you likely read a lot about witches in your spare time even in the fictional sense. you are also a very self-sufficient individual - you can do it all on a homestead. negative aspects: you likely abuse the power you have and use it for "evil" and torment others (piss-jar with wasps and chili powder in it type of energy with these placements for real). you need to be very careful that you aren't crossing the lines of magic because the entities that gave you abilities will not be pleased if you aren't showing your appreciation to them - it is giving angry toxic parent vibes "i brought you into this world, i can take you out of it". they gave you your abilities, they can and will take them away. if you think that you owe no one your power, you are dead wrong. be a loyal servant to the world you live in and the energy in it. all magic has a cost association. on a lighter note, be careful who you do exchanges with; they are likely to use you and not repay the exchange (but that might just be because you aren't repaying your entities - so they are the pawns meant to collect debts).
saturn: positive aspects: you like living in solitude; there is something so peaceful about it. it might just be because it allows you to take your time - "slow-living" is a homestead quality; it takes time to make things of quality! you understand that. I feel like this placement makes poppets and guardians - there is a lot of waiting and patience involved in those magic processes. but you have what is required to collect what is necessary, wait for astrological events, make the figures, etc. you are a very attentive and studious individual, so you don't mind taking the time to have all the details correct in your practice. negative aspects: you may be constantly on guard about others taking you for granted or manipulating you into doing what they want. you are prone to animosity, contempt, and disdain towards others. but that does not mean closing yourself off to the world (which you are for sure guilty of doing); you should learn to stifle these fears without disciplining/withdrawing from others. simply be on guard. you have a natural mistrust toward others. you may have a cold disposition. you likely enjoy when justice is served (you probably watched the heard v. depp case closely and were excited that depp won).
uranus: positive aspects: you like circe love the freedom associated with being completely alone and away from your kind. you would likely enjoy trading humanity for cows on a farm or a home in louisiana where alligators are rather close (pearl, is that you?). you are all good to pull an H. D. Thoreau to be one with nature. others are very likely to view your life as unconventional for this reason. but you like weird and bizarre things and don't care what others think. you could probably shock someone with your skills of persuasion. this uranus aspect often reminds me that magic and occult are not always just about myth, astrology, spell jars, herbs, etc. but rather modern magic is science! you may find that you are rather gifted at inventing new technology or scientific techniques. negative aspects: you can ruin your ex-lovers, and you totally would/will. you can very suddenly upend their entire life without so much as a second thought. your romantic life seems to follow in the footsteps of circe's - very quickly falling in love and trying to make/plan a life together - but be aware: your partners aren't often able of adapting to your lifestyle and frequently leave.
neptune: positive aspects: witch aesthetics for days. everything in your realm has a little bit of magic in it. you might be someone who really enjoys witch stories and tales - you probably specifically look for myths, fiction, movies, and tv shows about witches like 3h/5h placements and mercury/jupiter aspects. you might just write your own tale about witches. you might be prone to falling in "love" quickly. these placements tend to be oracles in their own right. negative aspects: you are likely playing a dangerous game and practicing black magic - i implore you to read my warning to jupiter negative aspects. be careful with the entities in your realm; they do not tolerate people using them or abusing the power they gave them - they don't mind letting karma catch up with you. you likely blackmail others with the information they gave you - but not without being betrayed first ("release the receipts"). these aspects tend to experience a lot of betrayal in life, which leads them to the world of "dark" magic. you have the power to curse others but should be careful because there is always a price/debt that will be paid with or without your agreement on what that will be.
pluto: positive aspects: you are probably the strongest of the magic users on this aspect portion of the list - though it may be a toss-up between you and the jupiter aspecting people. you have the power to transform those around you and even yourself. you can even manifest others to appear in front of you. you could also control/guide how karma catches up with people - though it is a delicate art to conquer. negative aspects: you like the venus aspect people are likely to end up in adulterous relationships - you likely aren't the one in a committed relationship though, know that having this knowledge and continuing doesn't make you any less at fault. often if you do continue on these relationships tend to end with them leaving you. you then tend to resort to underhanded behavior that takes down your ex-lover in a very complete/final way. like mars aspecting people, you are prone to lust - love is different than lust, and a lot of your romantic struggle can be resolved by learning to differentiate the two.
asc: positive aspects: you likely have a very dark aura consisting of various shades purples, blacks, and whites. you have a witchy energy and aesthetic. you are seen by others as someone very strong and independent. you can show people what you want them to see. you have an intriguing/mysterious vibe that makes others curious about you. negative aspects: people can be very put off by your presence - they may even be intimidated by your power. people may feel as though you are constantly looking down upon them and making them feel less than you. you might throw off illusions/glamours different from who you truly are.
mc: positive aspects: people know of you as strong feminine energy with a lot of power. people also know you to be generous and willing to help those in need. negative aspects: you can have a reputation as a cutthroat who doesn't mess around. many may know you as someone who demands a lot of respect from others. you might tend to abuse the power you have and manipulate others.
hermes: positive aspects: you have respect for the higher powers and trust them to give others information about you who have good intentions towards you. you trust higher powers to bring you equals and those you need into your life. negative aspects: there are people around you who are willing to exploit your weaknesses and make you susceptible to those around you. people in power around you do not hesitate to exploit your vulnerabilities and make you powerless in your situation.
odysseus/ulysses: positive aspects: you easily fall in love with those around you - you tend to be starstruck by brave and heroic individuals. you might have a thing for travelers and foreigners - they tend to intrigue you because you wish to know where they have been. negative aspects: you likely have bitterness toward your ex-lovers - there is very little chance that you stay friends with them after a breakup. you are someone who seeks revenge and will likely turn others against your ex-lover. you aren't someone who does your own dirty work - do with that what you will because it is both a smart yet troubling methodology that you don't get your hands dirty but do not care about involving innocent people.
penelope: positive aspects: you might have a common taste in men as other women around you. you might see the same good qualities in the men around you as other women do. negative aspects: the other woman motif. you are easily jealous of other women who interact with a man you view as "yours". men tend to leave you for their past lover(s).
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