[ thinks about how batjokes could be the most fun & weird ship of all time if dc didn’t INSIST on making joker a lgbtphobic ableist caricature. ]
like they’re just chilling in ‘89 being as queer and weird as humanly possible.
i feel if anybody could legitimately be a force for changing bruce wayne as a person for the better---it would be the rogues gallery being decent & kind people with their own problems who are equally as mentally ill and also, having political world views that challenge bruce’s. i would like to see rogues be forces for positive social change instead of just ‘MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE DO BAD THING FOR BAD REASON?’ when batman does ‘good things’ for bad reasons.
bruce legitimately thinks he’s the ‘good’ mentally ill person helping the ‘bad’ mentally ill people by locking them up even tho he KNOWS it could just as easily be him. he’s a pig herding sheep acting like a wolf man. it’s fucked
in a world where joker isn’t like. what canon makes a good concept of a gay funny clown that likes disrupting the establishment, where he’s smart enough to be annoying in a funny way and legitimately try to enact social change even if it is thru violence.
joker would legitimately be more helpful a relationship for bruce than a robin/child soldier that he feels he has to ‘fix’ with violence....
if bruce had to come to terms with the fascism within him and couldn’t look at himself as a hero or a martyr suffering for the people of gotham bc joker was like ‘u are a big idiot!!!! and i am going to make fun of you now!!! by replacing all the gold bars in gotham WITH RUBBER DUCKS!!!!!’ it would just be fun and cool. as an au if nothing else!!!!!















