#boe talks

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somebody has probly said this before but I find it so funny that in "the wish", the dystopian version of the world, the worst reality the Buffy world could have become, is when vampires invent capitalism. perfect

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hey Buffy fans can we stop pretending that the script of a pilot episode is supposed to be a perfect representation of the show. yes it has some cringe dialogue. but you are wearing rose tinted glasses if you think that the og Buffy pilot script was peak cinema on paper.

not only does a show gain its feet as it progresses, just like Buffy did (I like season 1 but it's not the peak of writing that other seasons achieve, more episodic), but a show like this is made by it's directing and acting. you cannot just read it from the page and condemn it, it's written to be watched.

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putting an emoji of the word you just wrote is the off-tumblr equivalent of "talking about my thing #my thing"

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i haven't seen anyone talk about the direct parallels to Buffy the vampire slayer in the newest season of stranger things so i guess the cross is mine to bear.

(to be clear I'm not accusing st of plagiarism lol, they take from a bunch of TV and films, that's kinda the point. also MAJOR spoilers for Buffy the vampire slayer)

so obviously the Karen "stay away from my daughter" scene, if you haven't seen Buffy: this scene is almost straight ripped from an episode called "school hard" where Buffy's mum comes in to protect her even though she doesn't know about vampires or any supernatural shit. practically the only difference is choice of weapon (but both just grabbed first thing they saw) and setting.

then there is the whole character of Doctor Kay. she's basically a carbon copy of professor Walsh from season 4 of Buffy.

an older woman with short hair, leader of a huge military operation but focuses on the science, known for being stern and even cruel but believes she is doing all this for a good cause. although I think there is going to be more revealed about Kay's character, on a base level they are the same.

I remember there being more but I would have to rewatch it (stranger things, not Buffy. I may as well have Buffy memorised at this point) I'll reblog if I remember.

and this has led me to a theory I've been calling Sunnydalegate. Buffy isn't an 80s show, so this can't just be a small homage or theme reference like st does for many films and TV (like the heavy nightmare on elm street vibes in S4 or ET in S1).

So what if they are introducing these themes because the show is going to end like Buffy does? the entire town gets pulled into the hell mouth/upside down but they still manage to save the rest of the world. the gang narrowly escapes being pulled in as well but a few characters can't escape. those who do just go and set up new lives elsewhere, but they destroy the hell mouth/all gates to the upside down and stop anything like this from ever happening again.

this would be supported by the convo Mike and El had on top of the WSQK roof in episode 1, him saying that the party can't stay in their town because too much has happened, so they go off elsewhere and live happily ever after. it's implied he means "too much has happened" to the characters but that could be a misdirect and it it literal, too much has happened and the town is fucking gone.

if this is the case, if the ending of stranger things is going to parallel that of Buffy, then that indicates a MAJOR character death. not just a loveable side character but a longstanding character that sacrifices themselves in order to save the world.

I don't know who this could be but the most likely options are either Will and El, just due to their powers (Kali is a possibility but as much as I love her she definitely isn't as narratively important enough nor fan favourite enough to be the big sacrifice). And although Eleven is one of my favourite characters, if it does have to be one of these two i hope it is her.

If they have Will come out as gay (which I think will happen in the next 3 episodes, but regardless of actual coming out he has had an arc surrounding his own acceptance of his queerness) and then kill him straight away... it's super hell all over again.

it could be anyone else, there's not really any way to know until we know the plot of the next few episodes and what the situation is actually going to look like, if the sacrifice will require someone with powers at all.

also I know this is a longshot, if not a complete crack theory, I've just been thinking about the parallels to Buffy so much and can't get this idea out of my head. regardless of if the theory is true the Buffy comparisons are 100% intentional.

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no cuz now that I write my own stuff I fully understand how cis het white guys end up writing 99% of characters who are exactly like them. every time I write a new character I like they are either explicitly or otherwise transgender. like it's just automatic

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"They put the spark in me and now all it does is burn" | 7x02

Another Spike album cover

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spuffy existed to punish buffy, because she hated herself and hated being alive. literally nothing bangel has ever done comes close to that level of toxicity lmfao

omg my first anon hate mail!! right of passage lmao

so first off, I don't usually engage in ship war stuff, even tho I don't particularly ship Bangel most of the time it does work to develop the narrative and Buffy's character. and the idea that it's wrong to ship a canon couple, regardless of how bad they are for eachother (relating to both spike, angel and Buffy)is crazy to me, it's fun to engage with and analyse it, that's what makes it good imo)

Both Bangel and Spuffy, when you actually analyse and think about everyone's actions, are very toxic relationships, in some ways in both directions. but it doesn't matter because it just depends how the narrative is framing it at the time, and yes spuffy is supposed to be a very toxic relationship, Buffy hates herself and so uses/abuses spike, and Spike is extremely pushy and creepy, and infamously attempts to rape her.

but that's why it's a super interesting dynamic to consume lol. I've never gotten how people are trying to apply irl morals to fiction when it's the characters being morally iffy that makes it interesting lmao

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they tried so hard to make missy and the doctor romantic vibes now that it was a man and a woman but was actually the least sexual the master and the doctor have ever been