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supernatural s15e19 inherit the earth (w. eugenie ross-leming, brad buckner)

i'm not sure i want to watch this, actually. all right, next day. let's see. combination of not wanting to watch them grieve cas after that weird reaction i had to 15x18 plus feeling like writing anything about spn is completely pointless. power through

covid lockdown-era city views, along with the akf/always keep fighting on the tower and the actual coke ad about social distancing "staying apart is the best way to stay united" well this is not helping my mental state and also presents confusing idea that this universe was affected by covid, which it obviously isn't. along with everyone being raptured

SAM I did this. We could have just given Chuck what he wanted, you know, his grand finale. But I resisted. I pulled the thread. I thought we could beat this game, do it better. We tried to rewrite him, and the whole world paid the price.

taking a moment to address the absurdity that chuck's being such a brat over the fact that the brothers won't kill each other he's gonna rapture the entire earth

CHUCK I mean, picture it. The two of you... And your little lapdog Jack... Rotting on a lifeless planet, knowing it's this way because you wouldn't take a knee. Eternal shame, suffering, and loneliness. Whew! That's deep. That's sophisticated. That's a page-turner.

it is something

little schmaltzy but i'll take it. ah, well. for 30 seconds at least. i know he comes back though so it's all good

very pretty lighting

i think it's been long enough i don't care about the endless reasons to get pellegrino back on the show and i'm just happy to see him and his overflowing charisma

LUCIFER Mm. Yeah. Alright, team. I don't want to bring ants to your picnic, but that ain't gonna cut it. Okay, think about it. If the Empty pulled me off the bench, it's 'cause the Winchester charm ain't enough, right?

harsh but fair

LOL new death, dead death, lucifer actually working with chuck, dead lucifer. we're making it snappy, folks

haha and now michael was working with chuck too and he's dead. this is sure something

gotta get them covered in blood and beaten to a pulp for old times' sake

okie doke. they figured out the michael business, jack is a power vacuum, sure. we gotta wrap this up, fellas

haha makes me think of this 1998 merlin miniseries with sam neill when they all turn their back on queen mab and she loses her powers because everyone forgets about her

SAM Then I think it's the ending where you're just like us and like all the other humans you forgot about. DEAN It's the ending where you grow old, you get sick, and you just die. SAM And no one cares. And no one remembers you. You're just forgotten.

i think about it a lot so i made some gifs a while back 😂

all right. de-raptured and people indoors

not sure how i feel about this whole speech from jack about how he's gonna be as new god and basically around but not around. sucks they semi-lost their kid too

SAM You know, with Chuck not writing our story anymore, we get to write our own. You know, just you and me going wherever the story takes us. Just us. DEAN Finally, free.

kind of surprised this wasn't the finale honestly, especially with that montage that managed to get me crying.

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supernatural s15e13 destiny's child (w. brad buckner, eugenie ross-leming)

so was showing cas and the pizza man interlude just all part of pizza clips. not the pornducation of castiel the angel

all right, shakycam not good with the nausea (that's back for reasons unknown) so i guess tbc. ok, thank fuck, it was only one day. i had 5-6 days of nausea from presumed norovirus literally a week and a half ago and i Could Not Do That Again.

ok while simultaneously dying a little inside i couldn't help but smile at the song choice. i had completely forgotten who savage garden was, but i want you is iconic. it's so cute and fluffy, what a sweet bop. and having the captions i'm realizing i didn't understand a number of words in this song 😂 pullin for jay on the music for the rare win, but it was christopher lennertz and alexander borstein :p

SAM The Occultum? Occultum, that's, uh, Latin for "hidden." Where do we find it? BILLIE I don't know, it's hidden.

glad to see billie getting some punchier moments. not glad to see yet another new random super powerful whatever thing pulled out of nowhere :p

every time i hear danneel, all i can think is katie siegel. her face is sort of familiar and her voice is higher but i dunno, man.

SISTER JO An old friend of yours... Ruby. SAM Wait a second. Why would you give it to her?

ok... so we could have both wives in an episode? all righty. i was thinking like what, ruby made it out of wherever she was (do dead demons go to the empty too? i can't remember) but alas no, i guess this flashback is to the year or whatever she was in this vessel

SISTER JO Stashed. By her. In Hell.

of course

JACK I used to feel things. In my bones. It was glorious, and sometimes unbearable. But I felt them. Now, I understand joy or sadness, but... I know those things aren't in me. I understand why Sam and Dean were angered by what happened to Mary... CASTIEL By what you did to Mary.

haha yes, no passive voice here. thank you, cas

JACK Yes. I see that I've caused them pain. And it's clear that things have changed. Especially with – with Dean. Will he ever forgive me? CASTIEL You know, Dean, he – he feels things more acutely than any human I've ever known. So it's possible he could work through this. One day, he may explode and let it all out and breathe deeply and move on.

what a weird thing to say. dean feels things more acutely than anyone else? how would you know? compared to who? lol

SAM Well, we have Rowena's notes for the spell so... DEAN Okay, "Samwitch."

did they take that from fandom? anyway, it's cute

???? speaking of weird interactions. dean obviously knew they banged, sam gave him those details over that naked writhing flashback in 4x09, so i guess the stinkface is because of cas's phrasing/mentioning it??

CASTIEL I think we need to ask Ruby. JACK Who's dead. CASTIEL Yeah. In the Empty. I need your assistance. JACK Uh, sure. Anything. CASTIEL I need you to kill me. Almost.

go me for remembering something. this sounds like an excellent plan. but also they can just pop down to hell no muss no fuss so why not make a phone call to ruby in the empty

fill up the flask of castiel grace, ok

JACK Cas, I-I may not have a soul, but, uh, I know killing you is wrong. What if I screw up? CASTIEL Well, then I'll be lost forever. But I think you'll do fine. Oh, um, you need to feed the spell bowl to keep the rift open for Sam and Dean, or they'll be lost forever. Let's do it. JACK Are you sure? CASTIEL Not at all. Give me one hour. Then bring me back.

no pressure! but i imagine having no soul means no anxiety, so, that's a win

i think i've seen some porn like this :p

jo making a deal with demons to kill sam and dean? ok. whatever

meg!! boo, not meg. but still very happy to see rachel miner

RUBY I'll help you on one condition. That you get me the Hell out of here.

uh huh

RUBY Why do they call this place the Empty? This place is full. It's full of sorrow and despair playing over and over again, of angels and demons dreaming about their regrets. Forever.

ok, well. that seems like a really shitty place to send angels? that presumably god was cool with? sorry you're dead, now spend eternity in misery. but i can't remember whatever nonsense there is about the empty's history or why angels and demons ended up there after dying

CASTIEL Oh. You made it back. DEAN Yeah. And so did you. You're an idiot, by the way.

don't be an ass, dean, you have done similar idiotic things on numerous occasions

DEAN It's a "place"? So you saw Ruby. CASTIEL And I got the location. Am I still an idiot? DEAN Well, yeah.

fetch the squirt bottle

having the au sam and dean cosplay this sam and dean in the case chuck checks in on them is the thinnest excuse to have this whole subplot but whatever :p

SAM Wait, your dad is... still around? DEAN And he "spoils" you? ALT!SAM Well, he did. We don't know where he is now. Uh, we all went through the rift together, but, uh, guess we got separated. ALT!DEAN Mm. To Dad. ALT!SAM Best guy ever.

you know i'm here for the john shade

aha, i had seen huntercorp and never connected the dots that it was a s15 thing. all making sense now :p and that au!john started it lol

all cozied up there. so what's the plan though, they surely can't stay alive on this earth?

goofy ass da vinci code shit :p like that requires so much particular timing....

could they not fucking drop the busty asian beauty thing. i'm fine with making the dean has porn on his laptop joke, but do casa erotica or whatever else and not the asian fetishization, please

this ugly ass highly fake looking set is the garden of eden, ok. contrasting with this...

s5e16 dark side of the moon

SAM This is heaven’s Garden? DEAN It’s-it’s nice… ish. I guess. JOSHUA You see what you want to here. For some it’s God’s throne room; for others it’s Eden. You two, I believe it’s the Cleveland Botanical Gardens. You came here on a field trip.

shaking my head.

JACK I was told this place might change me somehow. THE GIRL Perhaps. If you were the one meant to find it. You'll know soon enough.

i have lost the plot yet again

talking to the snake now too! okay!!

did he get his soul back?

completely nonsensical. just sending them off to brazil

got the interstellar-ish music again now that jack's feeling things. which consists of plonk plink plonk plink. completely not noteworthy except the first time i heard it, it reminded me of interstellar cornfield chase, even though it's really not that similar 🤪

pov you've got 3 dads, you're having a major emotional breakdown and no one thinks to give you a goddamned hug

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supernatural s15e8 our father, who aren't in heaven (w. eugenie ross-leming, brad buckner)

full on snorted when adam showed up in the recap

EILEEN Hey! Were you tailing me? SAM You could have left a note. EILEEN You're worried about me. SAM You- You think I'm being overprotective? EILEEN A little bit.

this all continues to feel completely out of left field. on a show that has had the number of episodes to develop a love interest, to plonk one down in the last season without any buildup prior to 3 years ago and that was very slight... is she just gonna live at the bunker? she did have a whole ass life outside of them. argh. i'm annoyed with myself being annoyed with this situation when i really liked eileen but this plotline is making me so grumpy

i was rereading a few posts from s12-13 because i referenced them or whatever and i actually still was occasionally enthusiastic and fond and i feel like now i'm just bitter and complaining nonstop

SAM So, he has an Achilles heel. DEAN Well, I'm saying he has a weak spot.

oh come on eugenie and brad, dean would know this

edited to add, thank you superwiki! (fucking bullshit, writers)

When Sam uses the phrase "Achilles heel", Dean responds as if he is unaware of its meaning (it refers to a person's point of vulnerability). However, Dean has used the term himself at least once himself, most notably in 5.04 The End: Dean: Long story. The point is... maybe we are each other's Achilles heel. Maybe they'll find a way to use us against each other, I don't know. I just know we're all we've got. More than that. We keep each other human. Dean also knew what it meant when Sam used the phrase in relation to Veritas in 6.06 You Can't Handle the Truth. Dean uses the phrase himself when arguing with Samuel Campbell about demon deals in 6.10 Caged Heat.

grinding my teeth at the quirky music for cas trying to get donatello, and then the music while they all overact staring at him while he's transcribing the demon tablet. i don't know why this season feels so much worse to me. it's like there was less editing or something. slap it on the screen and call it a day

if eileen has been working the god problem with sam, why isn't she in on this confab with donatello and cas

CASTIEL Are we seriously talking about going to hell to try to speak to Michael? Michael, who is in the Cage, and insane? SAM Yeah, and who told us that? DEAN Lucifer. And Chuck. Now, I trust them as far as I can throw them. But, Cas, if you wanna stay here, why don't you stay here?

sure, why not! also dim memory of, if chuck busted open the gates of hell and let everyone out, did that not include the cage. don't even care enough to look up when that happened 🥴

not even a catch you on the flipside to eileen. she just gets to lurk in the background and watch them go. also i know i tend to space out on castiel's stuff because i lose track of anything that's not in every episode but was there any indication before about this whole losing powers business before 15x03? urgh

ROWENA He won't be in the Cage. Every door here was flung wide when Chuck opened the fissure. Your archangel could be anywhere in hell, or out of hell, for that matter.

patting myself on the back for making the right deduction :p

sleepy rumpled puppy vibes

ROWENA What am I picking up from you two? A wee tiff? Tell your Auntie Rowena. DEAN It's fine. Don't worry about it. CASTIEL It's fine. ROWENA Boys? Fix it. I don't have many regrets, but the few I do still haunt me. Making Napoleon so short was just bitchy. Telling Mick Jagger he had no future when I dumped him. And, well, everything with dear Fergus. Then one day, you die, you go to hell, they make you queen, and you can't make it right. So fix it!

in the past, they'd have conflicts that i thought were pretty significant but the whole "family gets a clean slate, all is forgiven thing forever and ever amen" would wipe out whatever it was, but i guess this time we're gonna make more of a Deal out of them working out their problem. which is what, blaming cas for soulless!jack killing mary?

lol ok

ADAM So, what about you? You gonna go back to heaven? MICHAEL Uh, I don't know. My brothers are dead. My father never returned. In so many ways, I'm alone. ADAM Yeah. Same here. It's not like I have family waiting to see me. MICHAEL You have the Winchesters, your brothers. ADAM I met them once. And they let me rot in hell. MICHAEL Family. ADAM Family sucks.

glad they're chummy i guess? and it's true. thinnest plot device of a character that got forgotten immediately

DEAN Yeah. Eileen did good, right? Getting us back from hell. She doing okay? SAM Yeah. I guess. DEAN You guess? SAM If she needs something from me, she'll tell me. We have an agreement. DEAN You have an agreement? That's adorable. Look, man, I didn't want to say anything, okay, 'cause I was kind of in in a bad place, and, uh, yeah, I didn't want to jinx it or whatever, but, you know, I tried the family thing, right? SAM Yeah, me too. And that's not for us. DEAN No, not really. But I'm just saying if it was to work, Eileen, you know, she gets it. She gets us. She gets the life. She's hot. SAM Dean. I mean, I'm not even- DEAN Look, all I'm saying is you- you could do worse, okay? And she could certainly do better. Like, so much better. I'm happy for you, Sammy.

i hate that this is upsetting me. i try to be pretty objective while watching but dean giving his blessing to go do the family thing with eileen is freaking me out

all right so michael just super-smited lilith i guess? okie doke.

sure!

MICHAEL Sam. You look well. Last time I saw you in the Cage…

which brings up the point that if sam remembers anything of the cage then he presumably would have a pretty good idea of what michael was like then, at least. but it's like he's a blank slate

DEAN Wait, Mic- Michael lets you talk? I mean, he lets you be? ADAM Uh, yeah. In the Cage, we came to an agreement. We only had each other.

not to bring up the time passage in hell equations but :p also what was it like when lucifer was still stuck there with them? he was in there topside-wise what, 6 years? and 4 years it was just the two of them

DEAN No, he won't. Because Paradise is boring, and your dad he's just looking to be entertained. Which means we're his puppets. All of us, especially you. MICHAEL I won't hear this. You're lying. I don't know what your agenda is, but you're lying.

i mean, angels don't have free will anyway, isn't that kind of the point?

MICHAEL Yes! It would. It would mean that I doubt him. The good son, the favorite, doubts his father. ADAM You still care about that? After he left you in the Cage?

and there's the kicker. good job, adam

SUE The vamps have stopped moving just outside Omaha. They'll start setting up a nest. We need to move on them before they get their defenses in place. Can you help? EILEEN I... SUE What?! Do you have to ask for permission? EILEEN Send me the directions. SUE I just texted them to you. [SUE GASPS] Son of a bitch! SAM Hey. EILEEN I was talking to a friend. She's working a vamp case. She's in trouble. SAM Okay. Let's go.

why does this feel like we're getting set up for eileen to die (again)

lol castiel had to get into a little tussle with michael so he could show him the chuck-is-an-asshole recap via magic brain fingers

well. i didn't see eileen's buddy being actually chuck coming

cackled. michael can snap a nexus to purgatory!

to get, *checks notes* leviathan nectar for the spell to lock chuck in the cage or whatever. sure, why not

ah, i see in the deleted scene there is actually some interaction with eileen before popping down to hell

EILEEN Rugaru blood. SAM signs and mouths "Thank you" and takes the bottle from her, adding it to the compounding bowl before turning back to EILEEN. SAM Uhm, I hope my room wasn't too bad. EILEEN It was. But I don't know, kind of cool you have all that spell stuff under your bed. Most guys just have porn. DEAN looks slightly offended and confused. He raises his hand to get EILEEN'S attention and mouths "He has porn." EILEEN (whispering) I know.

mmk

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supernatural s15e2 raising hell (w. brad buckner, eugenie ross-leming)

what's up with that chain, sammy

spn 14x20 moriah giving disney haunted mansion

i'll be honest, i don't really understand this souls from hell / ghosts combo situation. goofy fucking cg on the souls. ghosts of s1 monsters

ah yes, the hell-ghost all hands meeting

is rowena flirting with castiel again? asked the same question in 14x14:

14x14 no clue what the exchange (would say flirting but to what end, to make cas uncomfortable or actual flirting) between rowena and castiel was about.

great. ketch. very tan business casual and with some new wacky weapon. and i guess they're going to have a show-recognized moment of flirting between rowena and ketch.

oook. captions and script say she says "you!" but all i hear is "ew"

CHUCK So, how about the "Game of Thrones" ending? Pretty great, right?

choosing to interpret that as petty chuck shade because what writer thought that was a great ending :p

DEAN This mess... all the messes. It turns out that we're just hamsters running in a wheel our whole lives. What do we have to show for it, huh? Tell me you don't feel conned. God's been lying to you, Cas, forever. You bought into the biggest scam in history. CASTIEL You don't think I'm angry? After what Chuck did? After what he took from me? He killed Jack. But that doesn't mean it was all a lie. DEAN Really? CASTIEL Chuck is all-knowing. He knew the truth, he... he just kept it to himself. DEAN Well, now that his cover's blown, everything that we've done is for what? Nothing? CASTIEL Even if we didn't know that all of the challenges that we face were born of Chuck's machinations, how would we describe it all? We'd call it "life". Because that's precisely what life is. It's an obstacle course, and maybe Chuck designed the obstacles, but we ran our own race. We made our own moves. And mostly, we did well with that. DEAN Did we? I'll tell you what we do know. Nothing about our lives is real. Everything that we've lost, everything that we are is because of Chuck. So maybe you can stick your head back in the sand, maybe you can pretend that we actually had a choice. I can't. CASTIEL Dean. You asked, "What about all of this is real?" We are.

i mean, i can see where dean's coming from. going to start questioning everything you feel even when knowing someone was behind the wheel setting up every important moment in your life. and never knowing if you in fact had any wiggle room to make any decision or feel any feeling that wasn't preordained. think cas is being realistic slash optimistic, but also relatable how dean's feeling. if you can truly blame a singular being for sending you to hell for 40 years, killing almost everyone you care about, torturing everyone you care most about, etc -- all for god's entertainment? gonna be pretty fucking mad

spn 15x02 / nda by billie eilish

so fucking dumb and random but here i am watching and i'm like THAT SCREECHY NOISE! it's so fucking similar to the beginning of the song NDA. that song is the first in my main playlist so i hear the start of it more than normal (because often i'm obsessing over new songs at the end of my playlist so i won't have it on shuffle)

~this is why i can't watch a fucking episode in less than 3 hours sometimes~

just have to laugh every time osric chau pops up. get that bag, friend

DEAN Chuck said he was sending you to Heaven. KEVIN Yeah, what he said, not what he did.

????? okay

cut back to hell-ghost all hands. this plot is LITERALLY making me do this while i watch. didn't i just stick up for you, late seasons? they're not much worse than the other seasons, i said. are you trying to make me look like an ass??

ROWENA The dominating, analytical enforcer... you... and the pulsating, throbbing firebrand... me.

pulsating, ok. little more than i needed to know, rowena

this soul sucking thing with the showdown and the shooting ketch and playing the music like i'm supposed to be sad about ketch getting hurt... woof. and this kevin business is also so random and ridiculous. and i didn't like the amara plotline the first time around

i hope this episode is not an indicator of the season to come.

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supernatural s14e19 jack in the box (w. eugenie ross-leming, brad buckner)

foreboding episode name. also rolling my eyes again that they decided to do hallucifer 2.0 with jack

sigh i am not really up for mary's wake today. next day. i tried to watch jason kelce's retirement press conference, which was so emotionally taxing, i decided watching this episode would be better. watching someone trying to not cry when their entire body is fighting it is so hard. so hard. i made it a minute before my chest hurt so much i had to stop. anyway.

well i did yell at sam for burning mary's picture, but this the same one but bigger so i guess it was fine. weird choice, but fine.

SAM Hey. Uh, most everybody's headed out, but Bobby's gonna stick around. I thought maybe we could open that scotch Ketch left and hang out, talk about Mom. DEAN "Talk about Mom"? SAM Yeah. DEAN Isn't that what we've been doing?

dean handling it as well as expected

quick sob in the woods to take the edge off so he can go back to being emotionally unavailable for sam. i get it. my personal m.o. is to go silently sob somewhere and then come back and be able to have a cool, calm and collected rational conversation about things. wouldn't recommend that either

SAM But they're real, right? We know that Mom's not sitting on a cloud playing a harp. She's in a good place. Or she's in a great place. She's with Dad. DEAN Hmm. You know what else? There wasn't enough left of her to even try to bring her back.

i have been thinking about that a lot lately. knowing about heaven etc, if it weren't so busted and broken down, what's the big deal if someone dies. especially if they're a "special" case soulmate type so they get another actual human to be blissful with. like the only real-real is on earth, they say, but the alternative sounds awfully compelling

dumah having jack turn a heretic into a pillar of salt, hokay

DUMAH Words can't begin to express how Sam and Dean will feel. Now here is the real test. We need more angels. You're not God. You can't just make them out of thin air. But if a human were predisposed to it, maybe you could take their soul and forge them into one of us.

LOL what. they got duped by lucifer when he said he could make more angels, but i guess they've been working the problem

handy we have this special box ready for eternal torture of archangels and maybe juiced up nephilims? who knows

DEAN No. Well, I mean, I want Zeppelin to get back together. But what I need -- What we need is to stop Jack. Big difference. But here's the deal. We both got to sign off on it. This might be our only shot, and if he even catches a whiff that this is a scam, he's off into the wind. SAM Exactly. And how do you think he's not gonna know something's up? DEAN Because you're gonna be so damn sincere. SAM Me? DEAN Mm-hmm. SAM Why me? DEAN Because you've always been in his corner, all right? You're his go-to guy. Sam, if you reach out, he'll come. If I do it, after what happened to Mom, I could lose it. I will lose it.

how about we cool off, take a minute or week or four, and think about this first. but dean wants to do it literally right now. great.

did not see castiel ganking dumah coming, all righty.

SAM So what do we do now? Just go on with Jack locked up in there forever?

i mean yeah it's reversible but this is the most accelerated plotline ever. like an instant pot to turn jack into lucifer

SAM You know, I never thought it would end like this with Jack. DEAN Sammy, we knew from the beginning it was a long shot with him. SAM Yeah. Yeah, but long shots are kind of our thing.

one day you've got three dads who love you and then you fuck up and they're locking you in a box

DEAN He's locked up, safe. He's in the Ma'lak box. CASTIEL No!

please, we need some pushback on dean about this.

DEAN He agreed to it. Because deep down, I think he knows it's best. CASTIEL No. You're doing what Dumah -- You are manipulating him.

tell him, cas. i hate when they have dean be like this

all right. surprise, surprise. it didn't go well.

i haven't finished an episode this quickly in ages.

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supernatural s14e12 prophet and loss (w. brad buckner, eugenie ross-leming)

feel like i'm just grinding through s14 at a decent pace. several times now they've made me had minor (to moderate) breakdowns and i just want to keep plowing through because i don't want the breakdowns to last more than one day 🫠 been a long time since a season made me cry so much. and especially with mid-season episodes? but it feels more.... hm. calculated. like when i bitched about 4 months suddenly equals 40 years in hell etc.

ranted about it in 9x09 because i don't think i was making my feelings known here for every episode back in s4

instead i just sighed because “trust me, kevin” and “i always end up screwed :)” so now dean’s gonna feel guilty. he’s already feeling guilty enough, did we need that too? when they push too hard on the excessive dean whump, i get annoyed. like the whole 4 months=40 years, i enjoyed torturing people, etc. edgelord bullshit :P

except instead of getting mad about it being edgelord bullshit now, i'm just feeling brokenhearted and manipulated. very not fun times. it's too much too close together to the jack thing and too similar to things they've done in the past, i think. is why it's pushing me away so hard.

dean's nightmare in the box / suicidal deathbed-esque convo also with interstellar-ish music / interstellar cornfield chase (c. hans zimmer) played by anna lapwood on the organ

well. dean's nightmare was awful. shades of him in hell calling out for sam. cannot fucking wait until this particular plotline gets snuffed out. and because i can't deal with not comparing this interstellar-ish music (it's in both spn scenes) i tacked it on to the end of this video too.

SAM Oh, hey. Didn’t mean to wake you. Sorry. DEAN No, it’s just a… bad dream. It’s fine. SAM You want to talk about it? DEAN No, I’m – No, I’m okay. DEAN What’re you doing? Why don’t you get some sleep? SAM You know, Dean, you don’t have to act like what you’re planning to do is just business as usual. I-I know you’re scared. DEAN Never said I wasn’t scared. But it doesn’t matter. SAM Doesn’t matter? We know we could die, uh, doing what we do. It’s always a possibility. But what you’re talking about is far worse than death. Michael’s an archangel. He could literally keep you buried in a coffin, alive, forever. DEAN Okay. I get it. But what’s the other option, huh? Michael gets outta my head and ends the world? ‘Cause it’s all right there in Billie’s book. SAM Yeah, but that’s only if we don’t find another way to take Michael off the board, and there has to be another way. DEAN And what is that other way? [SAM says nothing.] DEAN Exactly.

(but at least he wasn't sleeping in his jeans this time. oh and they're in an actual normal mid-price generic hotel room)

this reminds me a lot of the conversations in s5 about sammy going in the cage.

and like when i was watching the old guard, i'm like ah yes, stuck in a coffin in the ocean drowning over and over because you're immortal - i have heard this story before! on the vampire diaries! someone... stefan?? was stuck in a ...... safe? and pushed into a lake to repeatedly die and revive. 500 years and 3 months, respectively.

well this rando dude torturing and drowning a woman scene, also awful. jesus. we're committing to darker-than-usual i guess

CAS Sam. Maybe if I spoke with Dean… SAM It wouldn’t matter. Believe me, I-I I’ve never seen him like this. He won’t listen to me. H-He just – No. If we don’t find some way… Dean’s gone.

that interstellar-ish music again...

DEAN You ever think about when we were kids? SAM Maybe. Yeah, sure. Sometimes. W-Why? DEAN I know I wasn’t always the greatest brother to you. SAM Dean, you were the one who was always there for me. The only one. I mean, you practically raised me. DEAN I know things got dicey… you know, with dad… the way he was. And I just… I didn’t always look out for you the way that I should’ve. I mean, I had my own stuff, you know. In order to keep the peace, it probably looked like I took his side quite a bit. Sometimes when I was… when I was away, you know it wasn’t ‘cause I just ran out, right? Dad would… he would send me away when I really pissed him off. I think you knew that. SAM Man, I left that behind a long time ago. I had to. And if we’re gonna get through this, I-I have to do like you said and… try and keep my mind off of where we’re going. So, if we could not have conversations that sound like… deathbed apologies, I would really appreciate it. DEAN Right. Yeah.

listen i know this gets resolved somehow and i'm not gonna bail on this fucking project with a little more than a season left but i can't express how much i don't want to watch something that's making me cry so hard my head is killing me (more than it was already) on a regular basis. this is too many things that cut too close to home with characters i'm too attached to. sigh.

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supernatural s14e2 gods and monsters (w. brad buckner, eugenie ross-leming)

updated my post on 14x01 with my kind of derpy revelation:

!! omg lol i just reread my 13x23 with my whole “can’t kill michael now that he’s wearing dean” is that the whole reason we get pellegrino back as nick, so we can find out that archangel blades don’t kill the vessel?? 😂

the very fancy apron and a knife that reminded me of the linoleum knife in hannibal mizumono for a hot second 🥴 (his is a karambit, i think) he looks good, again. and without the flat cap he doesn't look so much like he's cosplaying the 20s.

CAS And, you need me to stay here and babysit Nick and Jack. SAM It’s not babysitting, Cas. CAS Only in the sense that they’re not infants, but they both have to be supervised. Jack is lost without his grace, Nick is…he’s just a mess. SAM Well, it-it’s not his fault. Cas, Nick was housing, you know. He-he deserves a shot at rebuilding his life. CAS And yet every time I look at him, all I can see is the supreme agent of evil.

sam thinkin (what with the presumed cage torture while wearing that face) if i can do it, you can give it the old college try too

NICK I just don’t know what kind of pain would make me allow Lucifer to possess me.

it's like therapy for cas too. but this is the part where you tell him how luci exploited your desire to fix the problem of amara (??) at any risk or whatever and let him possess you too

BOBBY I’ve been fighting a friggin’ apocalypse for 15 years, my, FBI might be a little rusty.

cute. i never quite connected with bobby but it is kind of nice to have jim beaver around (even if i think the whole reunion tour of the past couple seasons is kind of ridiculous). and appreciate the confirmation of the timeline, 15 years is a lot but also not a lot. did mary get the ice caps are melting speech too because she probably needed it more than those guys -_-

can i also take a moment to say how the longer it goes on, the more goofy castiel wearing an outdoor coat indoors at all times is to me? lol. and i've heard actors talk about how it can be tiring to always be in the same costume. years and years of a trench coat...

CAS Yes, I do - a little. At the time of the Great Fall, when angels were banished from heaven, I lost what I thought was everything. I had no grace, I had no wings. I felt hopeless and useless. JACK What did you have left? CAS Well, uh..well, I had Sam and Dean. But I had something else that was extremely helpful. I had myself. Just the basic me, as, uh…as Dean would say, without all the bells and whistles. You know, Sam and Dean, they weren’t born with their expertise. They’ve been at it since they were children. Failing, winning, developing over the years. Patience, persistence - those are skills too. The past, where you come from, that’s important, but it is not as important as the future and where you’re going.

cas is on a roll. therapize it up, my guy! and i kind of like this pointing out how sam and dean got to where they are

oh so now dean gets to have a moment in the mirror with michael like sam did with lucifer in 5x22 (glad it didn't last long)

DEAN (in mirror) GET…OUT. MICHAEL I don’t think so. DEAN You can’t. MICHAEL Oh, but I can. Because, see… I own you. So hang on, and enjoy the ride.

i guess archangels don't have to follow the rules of possession. i'm not sure it's even a rule? who knows. but i know at least specifically with gadreel there was the whole, if sam knows about him, he can eject him. oh right, no one could dump lucifer either, duh. lol

well that was genuinely startling and creepy, nick trying to snap castiel out of existence

those are some truly unfortunate monster teeth

NICK Castiel, you’re just a stone cold body snatcher. You’re no different than Lucifer.

again singing the praises of mark pellegrino, he totally sells this. bringing some of the creeping dread of lucifer into this character too

CAS You know, in all my thousands of years, what happened to Jimmy Novak and his family are my greatest regret.

i recall when they finally decided to have some moral quandary over the jimmy novak situation, it felt too little too late to me. and for a second i was like right, jimmy dead. jimmy's wife dead. what about claire... oh right! we know what claire (and her glorious hair) are up to, and not dead

MICHAEL I admire you. Eating on the run, surviving, despite being stalked by those venal humans, who think of you as nothing but vermin.

this is the most ridiculous explanation. just say you hate humans, lucifer 2.0

similar to how they finally addressed the trauma of cas taking jimmy away from his family in whatever, s10, jack visiting kelly's parents and addressing how she just disappeared and they don't even know she's dead (which is just heartbreaking as a parent, to consider.) the show, past the first couple seasons, rarely takes the time to follow that thread through. this was well done but it's hard for me not to see it as a play for emotion and give jack something human connection-y to do

two things. 1) there's a little hint of the like. cliche film noir jazzy saxophone or whatever in the score when michael is standing up saying the "why do you think i let you escape" line and i find it just. well. it's something. what era are we going for here exactly. i mean, matches her apartment vibe too but not with michael in his 20s-ish getup :p b) i'm glad jackles is laying off the funky speech cadence he had for michael in 14x01, it's a little different in spots but not So Much

(this is a christopher lennertz and philip white for music episode)

laughing at this framing. let us gaze upon the defunct telescope while they sit on the edges of the weird step things

JACK Cas, Michael has to be stopped. CAS I know, and he will be - after Dean is- JACK No, Dean doesn’t matter. You’re all so focused on trying to save Dean and I get it, I understand, but - if he can’t be saved, if it comes down to him or Michael - Michael has to be stopped. Caged, or killed- CAS And if that means that Dean dies too? JACK Then Dean dies. I know this Michael. I’ve seen what he’s done to an entire world, and so have you. If stopping that from happening here means that Dean has to die, then …. Do you think he’d want it any other way?

LOL what! wow. jack doesn't subscribe to the winchester let the world burn if it means i get to save my brother worldview. which, very reasonable. but i'm not sure why jack of all people is bringing this up to cas right now. sounds more like... something bobby should be saying? not like jack knows them all that much better than au bobby does

even if i think this nick plotline is unnecessary and silly, pellegrino is killin it. he's so good at being creepy!

objectively very pretty shot but i still laughed

do they have any sort of angel detection system? dial a friend (angel) to take a look at him?

nick going full darkside and bashing the neighbor's skull in was a choice.

trying to sum up my viewing experience of the later seasons, i'm gonna borrow from our friend will graham: "You delight. I tolerate." i'm trying not to be an asshole and complain all the time, i want to enjoy it when i can. but i find it pretty challenging.

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supernatural s13e12 devil's bargain (w. eugenie ross-leming, brad buckner)

laughing that the recap shows asmodeus impersonating cas on the phone, i have such a blind spot for this plotline because i aggressively don't care - i had forgotten they did that too (i was just guessing when i mentioned it prev ep), and sometimes i think about the process for picking clips to include in the recap. like, these dumbasses forgot about the asmo!cas phone call, better remind them (it's me hi i'm the dumbass it's me)

CAS Yes. And the archangel, Michael, again the Apocalypse World version, wants to use the spell to invade and conquer our world. That’s why I met with Lucifer. DEAN So…You met … Cas, I specifically told you not to do anything stupid. CAS Well, he was weak and given the context of our imminent annihilation it didn’t seem stupid. Lucifer wanted to help fight Michael.

what's stupid is dean telling cas not to do anything stupid. i would snap at my kids for that and tell them they're being rude and mean. so i'm glad cas snapped at him, slightly, and sounded mad

SAM Oh yeah, Lucifer wanted to help, sure. CAS If he were lying I’d have known it. He was, he was scared. But Asmodeus showed up before we could finish our conversation and when we finally managed to escape Lucifer did try to kill me. DEAN Oh so much for helping.

feel like they're trying to reestablish lucifer being scary. something about being sarcastic but like, he tortured our sam for an unknown but probably very long time, they have every right to be bitchy and sarcastic at the least towards cas on news of him sorta working with lucifer for a minute

ketch and asmodeus shenanigans *eyes glaze over* ditto for lucifer having to be human

DEAN Cas, I’m sorry. All that time you were with Asmodeus, I should have known it wasn’t you. CAS No, he’s a shapeshifter. Besides, I was the one who got myself captured. DEAN Yeah, but if Sam and I knew you know we would have– CAS Yeah, I know you would have tried another long shot. I’m fine, Dean. DEAN You sure about that?

my dig at the soulless plotline, but how long did dean (AND BOBBY) go with soulless!sam before realizing something was seriously fucked up with him (i would say an UNREALISTICALLY FAR TOO LONG TIME) but if we're accepting that to be in-character, then surely brief phone calls you can't expect dean to have realized it wasn't cas -_- so apologize for making the don't do anything stupid comment instead.

ah so this is the episode with danneel in it (oh, just looked it up, didn't realize it was more than one) i knew she was an angel but didn't know when. haven't seen anything she's in, only know of her vaguely due to jackles. was very much not expecting a ... very young sounding voice. her smile reminds me a bit of kate siegel

SISTER JO Don’t be afraid. You’re whole again.

oh lord the ableism. how do you think that feels to people that have facial differences? ugh. i know that's super common and pervasive but ugh.

girlboss angel, okay, why not

mmmk. little distorted demon growl in the mix of that whole scene

DEAN Alright, I say we take dickbag back to the bunker and find out what he knows, put a bullet in him and burn his bones and flush his ashes. CAS I like that plan.

how about since you know 100% this guy isn't going to break under torture, and that torture info is bad and useless anyway - just kill him and be done with it. i know, shows gotta do this, but i'm so over everything.

SISTER JO We don’t have to rush. We can do this slowly.

really wasn't expecting the kinky angel action a la sam and ruby. i feel the logistics of the angel grace recharge that's supposedly happening here don't quite add up :p but weird sex scene with jackles's wife. that just keeps going. i get it.

KETCH I know you think I’m a monster. DEAN Because you are. KETCH But even I must draw the line somewhere. And letting Lucifer free upon the earth? Well, as it turns out, that’s my line. Not to mention the whole Michael situation. I know you want to kill me. I know you can’t forgive me but if you think about it I’m the lesser of, well, at least three evils. All I ask is that you wait to murder me until after I prove useful. Hmm?

lesser of at least three evils was funny, i'll give them that. still heavy sigh over all this

DONATELLO (screaming) It's like pulling friggin' teeth!! (calmly) I’m working my way through the ingredients. SAM Right. Okay. At least we know the spell we need is in there and we have a plan.

so does that mean sam is all hunkydory now that they have a plan? no more "in a dark place" sam? insert eyeroll

speaking of eyerolls. did they get a proof of concept from him showing he can actually make angels?

LUCIFER Hail to the king, baby.

mhm. preferred when ash said it :p

it's on the damned tip of my tongue who he's reminding of and driving me up the wall. but the cackle i cackled. ARCHANGEL BLADE. okay. why not. couldn't even come up with some random cool sounding backstory having thing like the first blade. nah. just like the angel blade, but upgraded.

gabriel? sure, why not. not like i can keep track if was supposed to be still dead or whatever. s13-15 like one long reunion tour?