Naruto is my Roman Empire and Iāve been reading MadaTobi fanfics so these r my Founders Thoughts that nobody asked for:
- Tobirama had a crush on Madara and it PISSED HIM OFF like they def had hate sex at one point LMAO
- they literally worked together ur rlly gonna tell me they didnāt have SOME moments of civility btwn them?? (lowkey thatās wild tho having to see ur brotherās murderer everyday at work-I like Tobi but Iām just sayin)
I WANT A WORKPLACE SITCOM WITH THE FOUNDERS SJSKKSKS:
- Tobi doing experiments and scaring the villagers
- Tobi teaming up with Madara to make Hashi do work
- Hashi making flowers w/government documents
- Mito sipping tea while encouraging Tobi to revive the dead
- everyone in the Tower side eying the sexual tension btwn Madara and Tobi and them never denying theyāve fucked before
- Toka cackling in the background
- Hikaku spraying water at Madara like a cat every time he throws a temper tantrum
- Kagami popping in to make sure his clan head doesnāt kill his teacher PERFECT SITCOM MATERIAL
- totally personal preference: Naruto shouldāve had more BLOOD AND GORE. I wanna see the grittiness and horror the shinobi world actually is and how revolutionary Naruto as a character is by choosing peace over violence. The only time we get that is Obito vs Kiri nin, Uchiha Massacre, Wave Arc, Orochimaruā¦before it turns into DBZ fights
Iāve said this before: Sasuke was in a seinen Naruto was in a shounen
- the warring states is literally the perfect place for exhibiting the horrors of war and humanity. Bloodline thieves, child hunting squads, GIVE. IT. TO. ME. Madara and Hashirama experiencing all of this and wanting PEACE FOR THEIR YOUNGER BROTHERS UGHHH ROBBERYā¼ļøā¼ļø
I HC that bloodline thieves is prob why Madara wears glovesā¦.being a YOUNG (heās been on the battlefield since he was 8??) powerful, prodigy and future clan head of a famous kekkai genkai it makes sense why he doesnāt like skin-contact/sexual repression and repulsion. And why we donāt see female Uchiha shinobi (excluding misogyny) simply bc thereās such a high risk of SA in this era
- Tobi and Izuna were jealous of how their brothers were being taken away. It goes past the senju/uchiha rivalry like they were just kids and were plain jealous.
- Madara and hashirama def share 1 brain cell LOLLL. Like theyāre besties for a reason, Madara acts likes he smarter but nah heās as much of an idiot as Hashi is. Theyāre both dreamers let these boys live and skip rocks together!!! šš
- letās be honest: Tobi built the village. Mans was doing ALL the logistics and infrastructure
- tobirama is soooo second son/eldest daughter coded itās not even funny. The SPARE, serious and emotionless bc he needed to always clean up after his siblings, DUTIFUL, prob has a praise kink etc.
- Madara is an eldest daughter who also prob has a praise kink and touch starved
- NONE of the founders r well adjusted like they went from spending everyday of their lives at war to tryin bring peace and start essentially a ninja-revolution (PLS GO TO THERAPY)
- madara was just the most open about it: being isolated and feared by his own clan BC he was powerful, trying advocate for the village and peace, all while grieving for his last brotherā¦yeah it makes sense y he went crazy or at least wanted to leave (fuck Kishimoto for that Kaguya bs and fuck Zetsu)
- I donāt actually believe he was trying destroy the village idkkk. I think he was trying to do an SNS aka using fighting as a way to communicate with Hashirama and wellā¦yIkEs
- tobirama is 1000% unadjusted: mans literally created a Justu to revive the dead. You cannot tell me that doesnāt REEK of desperation and loneliness. Heās lit rally the OG mad scientist
- hashirama rlly thought sealing the Bijuu and giving them to each village was a good ideaā¦.sir WHO TF GIVES NUCLEAR WEAPONS TO SHINOBI???!! š³š³
- I think hashirama and naruto lowkey can be summed up as: a powerful idealist. Which is a very dangerous combination. Take that how you will especially considering how shinobi thrive off of violenceā¦.it kinda makes sense how we ended up with canon Naruto
- Madara has a god complex and knows it. Hashirama has a god-complex and doesnāt know it. (God of Shinobi title def got to him and understandable)
- the founders failed and they know it. But I also kinda love it?? Theyāre so flawed and human as leaders and you can see how their mistakes drag into Canon Naruto. It also makes me so sad knowing that Konoha was built to prevent child soldiers and give protection only for it to actually be WORSE (Kakashi ITACHI SANNIN ik for a fact it mustāve hurt Hashi to know ur own granddaughter left the village)
Uchiha are: love is the death of duty while the Senju are: duty is the death of love and neither of them will forgive each other for picking one over the otherā¼ļøā¼ļøā¼ļø
- proving this ^^ w/Hashiramaās weird af characterization: aka him being a loveable idiot but at the same time CONGRATULATING Itachi for killing his own clan for Konohaā¦. I feel like that rlly showed me how much of a war veteran/shinobi Hashirama actually is and how he will always pick duty
- we were ROBBED of baby Kagami/hokage Kagami š¤š¤š¤ Iām sorry Kagami shouldāve been made Hokage it just makes sense personality wise and politically wise. The only way I could see him not take it is bc he needed to be a clan leader/placate the Uchiha/help Hikaku.
- I wanna see him process the loss of his clan leader, teacher, and eventually friends to a point where Danzo takes his eyes
- everyone on Team Tobirama had a crush on Kagami at one point
- one of my fav HC: Tobi and Madara co-parenting Kagami. Thereās no way Madara didnāt check up on Kagami being taught by THE senju which makes his defection hit harder for Kagami šš
- BABY SANNIN ā¼ļøā¼ļøā¼ļø Tsunade was old enough to meet and remember Hashirama it makes sense that Oro and Jiraiya meet the founders
- omg could u imagine being Edo Tensei Hashirama?? Ur granddaughterās weird friend revives u using the Jutsu ur brother invented that you specifically FORBID šš
- Hashi and Tobi staring at Orochimaru like āyou look familiar???ā IT HAS SO MUCH COMEDIC POTENTIAL
- Mito revolutionized female shinobi like sheās def the reason ppl realized that girls can fight (Senju Toka was an exception) STAN MITO šāāļøšāāļø
- Mito pulled a Tsunade and mentally yeeted out of Konoha after Hashi and Tobi died. Bc the way we NEVER hear about her and Hiruzen interacting except for Kushina, even tho sheās literally RELATED to the other 2 hokagesā¦.ROBBED šµāš«
- I HC: she was dealing w/grief (the fall of Uzushio made it worse) and she was lowkey pushed out of the council by Danzo FUCK DANZO
- I love the idea of Mito wooing for Hashiramaās hand/politically smart Mito!! It was a political marriage that grew into love. Thereās no way she DIDNT suspect an attack on Uzushio lik itās literally an island w/Kiri as itās neighboursā¦.Konoha gets recognition and stability while Uzushio importantly gets mainland allies
- Mito tops btw sheās def pegged Hashi before š«¢
- if Madara or Hashi had sisters/born women they wouldāve def had a marriage to solidify their alliance. This makes Japanese homophobia not make sense esp in the shinobi world bc their clans trusted each other w/o backup like marriage?? Idk Iām just kinda confused y it was never even brought up for an allianceā¦
*cue MadaTobi arranged marriage au 100k, enemies to lovers, slowburn*
- also to dude bros homophobia has no place in the Naruto world (and IRL BTW) outside of making heirs. Theyāre literally MERCENARIES You telling me Kakashi has never fucked another man for information before??? Pls be serious Iām begging yāall ššš
- thereās def family drama amongst the senju!! Idk I feel like Hashirama and Tobirama have the relationship of: āthey love each other but donāt like each otherā which makes Madaraās inclusion even worse for the brothersā relationship. Like they def always had each otherās backs but never actually felt like they understood each other.
- I wish more fanfics/canon covered the shinobi-civilian politics more (I love politics lol give me world-building kishimoto š¤)
- Civilians hold power. THEY have all the MONEY to pay shinobi
- Iāve rlly only seen 1 fanfic that involves the Fire Daimyo during the Warring States Era (Into the Wide Blue Yonder itās a KakaSasu Time travel fic that actually āØworksāØ 12/10 recommend) but itās true.
Wtf is the Fire Daimyo doing during this era??? Why is he being so placate about Senju/Uchiha war unless he just sees it as entertainment?? How have shinobi NOT fought against rich civilian politicians before?? (Introducing Maoism to the naruto world lol š¤š¤)
- Kishimoto curse ur goldfish brainā¦.
- the uchiha and senju were def broke in this era, LMAO especially the Uchiha and I mean resource wise. War is EXPENSIVE the Uchiha donāt have Hashirama and Mokutan, they couldnāt just grow food whenever they wanted. It makes total sense that they would agree to a ceasefire just to prevent STARVATION
- once againā¦. robbed in terms of seeing the aftermath and devastation of war and learning how to live in a morally grey, politically unstable, resource limited world which couldāve brought in the ultimate themes of peace and the cycle of violence, and the question of if violence and war is ever justified, butā¦..no ā¤ļø
