#chapter 1159

[coffeedipendent]

[zonaenthusiast]

I was planning to make my One Piece movies ranking today because I've been postponing it since last sunday but god (Oda) had other plans. So let's talk about chapter 1159 instead because reading this yesterday felt like being punched in the face repeatedly.

PS: Little edit at the end babes, I got wrong the very end of the chapter!

First of all, I'm quite sure this whole thing with Shakky is based on Helen of Troy. It's one of the most famous myths but just in case you don't know, the basics are that she was considered the most beautiful woman in the world and she was married to Menelaus when she eloped with or was kidnapped by (depending of the version) Paris, causing the Troyan war.

The fact that Shakky's kidnapping quite literally made the world stop for weeks because her simple existence would touch the hearts of so many people reminds me so much of Helen I doubt it's a coincidence.

Second, I hope Shanks (or Shakky) kills this man on the spot. I felt so angry reading this yesterday, I feel so angry now.

So, Shanks' mom was a normal human from God Valley, where the twins were born, and Garling seemed unimpressed to say the least with his sons beyond that they are twins (and boys, probably).

I wonder if the fact that we didn't know her name or see her face at all means something. It could be a stylistic choice, meaning she was so unimportant to Garling (and the general story) we don't even get to know her; or she could be someone, part of a family that might be important during Shanks' past. There's still several gaps in Shanks' story and I want to believe her mother still had an impact in him. We'll see.

Third, this just makes sense so much sense to me.

A while ago we learnt Dragon was a marine, following his father's steps, but he left when he discovered there were no justice there. What happened in God Valley is one of the biggest events in modern history in this world, being radicalized by what he saw here doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

Fourth, Morgans is such a fucking menace and when he is in a chapter you know it's going to be good because he is always on some shit. He is one of my favorite sporadic characters because of that lmao.

He reminds me a lot of mr Scott's role in Black Sails (I'm so sorry for keep mentioning Black Sails in this blog, it will most definitely happen again): they don't seem like they're doing much but they actually play a huge role in several main events in their respective stories. Morgans KNEW what would happen if he revealed Shakky was in God Valley, so he is pretty much the one responsible of things turning they way they did.

Fifth, with what happened in recent chapters and this reaction, I think Rayleigh always felt something for Shakky. I think he feigned indifference because of Roger, Ray actually had a shot with her because their feelings were mutual but he didn't want to do that to Roger, so he pretended nothing was there. But I assume not knowing what happened to her for a year and now this will make him do something about his feelings.

Sixth, I felt like that what the hell sure meme when I read this. We already know Davy D Jones was the creator of the Davy Back Fight but I did NOT expect this. Some people have been saying for years th DBF might become important in the future and they were onto something, good for them!

I liked that idea but honestly didn't think it would be that connected with the main plot. This revelention changes things.

(Could Shanks' mother be connected to the Davy clan? Blackbeard and Shanks are already closely connected, first by the scar, now by their hometown. I don't think it's a far-fetched idea).

Seventh, Shakky should be allowed to kill ten men per hour.

It's actually quite interesting to me this whole thing with Shakky. Someone kidnapped her, we still don't know who, and they didn't harm her in any way. Were they just waiting for this event to happen to use her as a trophy? Where and who was she with during the year between when she was taken and this? Not with Garling, I assume, I don't think he was the one who kidnapped her because he seems quite obssesed with her, he would have kept her and forced her to be his wife directly, without the whole spectacle.

And eighth and last, I love this.

I love it so much when things like this happen because Dragon is about to do the right thing, he will save at least the child. He couldn't have known the horrors that child will bring to the world in the future, what he would do to his own son, directly and indirectly.

And even if he would've known, would you leave a still innocent child behind? I know Dragon has this moral dilemma constantly and I'm a sucker for this shit.

(I've been wanting to read Monster for a while and this revelation might be what will make me finally do it, oh well).

edit: People pointed out in my comments Dragon didn't go to Teach and I'm just realizing the background is different. He is talking to Shanks' mom, I didn't even think about it because I thought Garling killed her in the previous panel. Thank you for pointing it out!

What I said before may still be true if Dragon finds Teach too in a future chapter so I don't want to delete this, but for now he is saving Shanks. And it just ocurred to me, what if Dragon ends up being responsible for the survival of both considering, as I said before, how connected they are and what both are to Luffy?

So... what a chapter, huh?

[hushbats]

I haven't read the new chapter and have only seen a few panels, so when this one showed up...

I nearly had a heart attack. I thought it was BB's mother speaking and thought the Rocks D Buggy theory was confirmed 😅 I was so hyped for a second lol.

[migila]

Okay so chapter 1159 has so much in it that it's hard to keep track of it all!

First, we have baby Shanks and Shamrock meeting their father...

...And then there's this. What the fuck? She would've most likely died out there anyway; he didn't have to do that... but since Shamrock is a Celestial Dragon in the current story line, I suppose that means Garling cared about the little family he created on some level? Anyway, Oda should've shown us the mother's face at least. Maybe in the next chapter?

Also:

I was thinking that this rookie's gotta be important for the plot later and that I've definitely seen him somewhere before, and then-

-holy shit, OF COURSE! This was the trigger; the God Valley Incident radicalized Dragon! He was a marine just like Garp wanted, but then things went wrong. Badly. Honestly made me wonder why Garp stays in the marines; there's no way he doesn't know about all the shit that goes on and on, so why does he go along with it? I can somewhat understand not going against it actively, but by being a marine himself, a strong one at that, he's supporting the system! Will we get Garp's backstory and motives at some point, too?

Also also, Ginny, Kuma and Iva! Of course, we all knew they were on their way there, but after seeing them in this chapter where Dragon was also shown to be on the island, it made me wonder if Ivankov and Dragon already met each other there and they kept in touch since. Or maybe they met up again later, and it was then that Dragon made up his mind on what to do, perhaps with Ivankov telling him more details about what happened in God Valley?

Another hidden name? Okay, got it, fair... now I wanna know how this is connected to Davy Back Fight? Was it a thing Davy Jones started, and so the name?

HOLY SHIT! This means Shanks and Black Beard come from the same island! Do they know? Did they know each other as kids? ARE THEY RELATED!?

Also, Xebec went down in God Valley, right? Did he go down trying to protect his family? Did he stay behind to buy them time? Did Roger and Garp know he had family there!?

This especially makes it seem like Xebec might've sacrificed himself to protect his family.

And points to Harald for refusing to become a mindless dog of the government! Aint no question about it; he let Xebec escape. Saying "friends 'till the end" might be overdoing it, but they had trust and respect for each other whenever it mattered the most for sure!

Dragon and... Shanks' mom? Did Dragon put Shanks in that treasure chest? If so, how come only him but no Shamrock? Why did Dragon fail to save the other?

...Actually, where are the babies during this scene? Did Garling take them somewhere while the wounded mother of his children could do nothing but watch? How did Dragon, or anyone else, get to where-ever the twins were held?

And there's Baby Black Beard and what I assume to be his mother, whose face we also don't get to see. Of course not. And they seem to be wearing chains... is it because the government already caught them, or did the Davy clan perhaps go against their own, ones that they perhaps considered to be outsiders?

But damn, God Valley Incident is so much more important than one would've ever thought... it gave Garp the title of the Hero, and it radicalized his son. It sent Shanks, who later became an emperor, to the sea. It set three revolutionaries (in addition to Dragon) out to the sea and turned them against the world. And it gave Black Beard a reason to loath the world! He's what, two years old? He probably remembers at least something of that traumatizing time... does he remember the faces of any of the people that were there? Like White Beard? Roger?

Dunno what Oda's gonna hit us with next, but this is definitely the most important chapter in a long while!

[moongothic]

So Blackbeard may have a sibling?

Both the fantranslation and official translate BB's mom saying she wants her CHILDREN off the island*, and thats really interesting to me.

*Now yes most times Japanese does not have a way to diffrentiate nouns that are and aren't in plural mode, like if I said りんごもっています ("ringo motteimasu") you wouldn't be able to tell if that meant "I have an apple" or "I have apples". That is how most nouns work in Japanese. Hoyever, if you were to slap a たち ("tachi") at the end of a word, you would suddently turn that noun into a group of people. Like if I said りんごたちもっています ("ringotachi motteimasu"), that would suddenly translate to "I have the apples" (mind you, this would also make it sound like the apples are sentient creatures and I may be holding them hostage, so you wouldn't use "tachi" the same way you just slap an "s" at the end of a noun in English to make it plural) All of this to say, if BB's mom said she wanted her "kodomo" off the island, we can't really tell if there's multiple kids or not. BUT if she said "kodomotachi", then yeah, there HAS to be multiple kids

Xebec earlier in the very same chapter said he had a child two years ago, Teech is two years old at this point so that perfectly adds up. And based on the English translation it seems like Xebec only had one child-- of course, if you read the little Japanese lesson I just gave you we both understand that unless Xebec very explicitly said he only had one (1) child then we can't be 100% sure Blackbeard doesn't have a twin (or isn't a triplet etc etc).

So our options are

A) There's a minor mistranslation; Xebec had multiple kids two years ago, BB has a twin sibling (or more) (or they might've had more kids since BB's birth and he was talking about how he had his first child two years ago) B) There's a different, minor translation; BB's mom only has one child she wants off the island C) There's no mistranslations; BB's mom had a child with someone else before having Teech with Xebec, BB has a step-sibling (or multiple)

I dunno, this is interesting to me, I'm just fascinated to see which it is

EDIT: Read the comments lmao I am just stupid

[basedkikuenjoyer]

Be Here Now

One Piece has made me feel many emotions over the years. It has made me ponder many deep questions. As of this chapter, we can now add "How much would the sudden kidnapping of Taylor Swift disrupt the global economy?" Like...it sounds absurd but imagine if Elon Musk snatched T-Swizzle away right now. Tell me that wouldn't cause enough disruption to be able to say the same thing.

So Shakky was one of the "prizes" at God Valley. And we are getting full into God Valley which is very interesting stuff to be seeing right now. Ochoku was the traitor, based Don Marlon establishing himself as one of the coolest characters with the least time in the story, and I do like that when shit gets real Gloriosa is absolutely shattered. Also...I get it girl. I had a tiny fraction of being kind of an "it girl" in a very localized context and that made me want to open a bar in the middle of nowhere.

Goddamn Mac, see kids this is why you don't make a fast food mascot jingle out of a song about a murderer. What a dick! Like, bruh you can have multiple wives. This is so wild, especially with what we know about how this ends and:

Dragon. Who was disillusioned by God Valley as a Marine recruit. And it seems like he was the one who helped Blackbeard get away. When we know Roger would ultimately split the lil Two Cheesburger Combo. Yeah if we don't have Kiku on the covers making me have to think carefully about Oasis album titles and haiku you bet we're getting a super-sized crop of Mac Tonight jokes. Fuck you Morgan Spurlock...

Sorry, tangent. We did get a cocky young Morgans as well though! That was cool. I liked his hat. Same with the glimpse of Kuma and Iva. Love Iva's spirit even so young. I guess this establishes Dragon is a bit older than his other founding Revolutionaries. But overall, this felt like a combination of setting the stage and showing us different sides of things we know about. Leading to my last point for today.

We'll go back to covering covers on Monday like usual, but I do feel it is pertinent to comment that Kiku's segment aligned perfectly with the start of this flashback to the point well...she enters the picture. We don't have specific dates but on our timeline God Valley is somewhere around that time from the Mountain God Incident to Oden being named Daimyo of Kuri. Then his flashback takes a six-year gap. Just, something to keep in mind as we go forward. Especially with Gecko Moria now as a perfect piece to maybe link the closed-off nation to the wider world.

Even moreso when Harald has his moment outside the confines of the island itself. I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't quite where we get the full story on God Valley. It's all still pretty early in Harald's story. So we have a lot more to cover after this big event.

[fallensnowfan]

Silly bonus post because something crossed my mind hehe.

Duke Nukem voice* "Time to return to the Flower Capital and eat apples, and I'm all outta apples."

[bambieluv]

Is gunko gay for this...?