#conformity gate theory

[moonybowie]

rip eddie munson you would’ve loved conformity gate theories

[thesmallestmango]

me when it's january 7th.... and there's no ninth episode

[sherlockbyers]

Henry Creel = Doctor Brenner: A Theory and Question

Introduction

Yes, I am prepared to be wrong, this is just for fun! I think if Henry and Brenner were the same person there would be more foreshadowing and parallels already, and I also believe Henry to be controlled by the Mind Flayer so I’m not sure how that would work with my theory. I am, nonetheless, making this post (and who knows, anything is possible)!

I don’t have a full theory with a whole backstory and everything (yet), that might come later. This is more a collection of observations with some speculation!

Appearance

It was when I saw a ST5 BTS video of Jamie that I really started thinking…

(Thanks to @forever-hyperfixating for finding the pictures!)

Why is his hair bleached nearly white? I could only think of two explanations: his hair was bleached so they could dye it another colour OR they were giving him a Papa hair style. We know Henry didn’t have bleached hair in ST5, so what was this for then? I can guess…

Even if they were bleaching his hair to prepare it for dye, then why is he in costume? Anyways, I have lots of questions…

EDIT: So he bleached his hair for Rings of Power, but in the picture above it’s Sarah Hindsgaul who is bleaching his hair. Sarah works for Stranger Things, why would she do Jamie’s hair for a project she’s not a part of?

Comparing Matthew and Jamie side by side, they don’t look too different:

Similarities

Let’s run through a quick list of similarities in personality:

Both call El “Eleven” (which makes sense since they’re all Lab occupants)…

Henry and Brenner use a soft voice to talk to children and more gentle habits.

Manipulative (both manipulated others and El, poor girl).

Determined, Brenner and Henry will do terrible things to get to where they want to be.

Brenner and Henry’s fathers were both in the Military.

Are referred to as a “monster”.

Have a knowledge of the wormhole (I think it’s fake but whatever).

Amy Parris, the costume designer for ST, said that Mr. Whatsit’s suit was influenced by Brenner, which I find interesting.

Holding the children’s hands:

Carrying children bridal style:

Dialogue parallels:

Together.

How and Why?

How are Henry and Brenner supposed to be the same person? Well, there have been a few time travel/time loops/multiple timeline theories going around, I think that’s how it would work. Maybe future Brenner/Henry is trying to prevent or ensure something? Could explain his special interest in Henry and his control over him…

Brenner has been pretty determined to find Henry it seems. In S4, El confronts Brenner about using her to try find Henry in the void. He denies it, even though El doesn’t believe him, and tried to manipulate her. So we know Brenner wants Henry, and I think the whole “Henry’s blood gives the children powers” stuff in S5 is total trash. From a scientific view, how does that work? The blood cells would die eventually and new ones would be made by the body (I failed biology so let me know if I’m wrong). And before anyone says “it’s just a TV show” yeah I know, but I don’t care. Anyways….

So why would Brenner want Henry back so bad? I suppose if one of the numbers went missing he would try to find them, but he was quite extreme in looking for Henry. He literally used El to try find him in her mind. As far as we know he never tried any of that when looking for Kali or El.

Conclusion

This was very much a little surface level analysis, I’m no genius. I might try to deeper in the future! If you can find or think of anymore connections let me know!

(Thanks to @monsterkill--er for some of these observations!!!)

P.S

If anything in this post sounds stupid it’s because it’s late at night and I am so tired.

[geekgirl750]

Stranger Things ending so bad that Gen Z had to reinvent the fucking Johnlock Conspiracy!

[mistyart2008]

I just thought about how they could end the series if conformity gate happens through an original song!

I havent seen many people bring this up but before the finale the duffs made a big deal about how there would be a song in the finale that "has never been used before in film and tv"

However, the only big songs in ep8 were "Heroes" and "Purple Rain" and those songs have been used in film media before which means that the Duffs lied.

Some people have said that they could have played "Back to the beginning" by DJO but that wouldnt have worked with the 80s atmosphere of ST and I feel most recognisable 80s songs have already been used in other media.

This is why the only possible solution for this is that the Duffs commissioned an 80s style original song for the real Stranger Things Finale.

(HEADCANNON TIME)

They could have someone completely new sing this original song but it would also be cool if they got one of the singing actors to sing the song as one of their characters (either Mike, Dustin, Steve or Robin)

I'd love for Mike to sing the new song cause the idea of real epilogue mike serenading real epilogue will in their NYC apartment after all their friends left after the real epilogue DnD game with a song about a Zombie boy and a Vampire falling in love throughout their childhood.

It could be a great way to represent the journey that all the characters went through while revealing that Byler was always the core of the story.

Bonus points if this song has a cheesy ass name like "Stranger kids" or smth

[sherlockbyers]

hmm okay, not suspicious that “wrong” is emphasised…

video!!!!

[moonybowie]

if the episode’s not real imagine putting a whole fandom in mass psychosis by not paying attention to the details in the biggest series in the world rn lmao duffers we re all looking at you

[solitaire-jinx-16]

currently crashing out how there really isn't an episode 9 of stranger things