#darkner theory

[quiteshocking]

ok so is no one gonna talk about how weird monsters are in deltarune

ok so this post is gonna be garbage and no one’s gonna see it but i swear i’ve never seen anyone talk about this??? monsters make no freakin sense in deltarune like literally at all??

(sorry ahead of time for clumsy sourcing i don’t wanna hunt for screenshots rn)

like monsters have always been a lil confusing with their biology even in undertale, what with monster food supposedly not passing all the way through the body (grillby’s) yet monster kid talks about wetting the bed (umbrella trail) and sans is handing out toilet paper tickets (shyren fight), which is continued in deltarune with the contradiction between apartment kid’s “~does it hurt to be made of blood” and susie’s “~everyone bleeds” but like. usually i’d be saying yeah whatever, weird monster biology, it’s fine and hand-wavy because they’re made of magic right?

oh, except they’re not. not in deltarune.

toriel cooks not with fire magic, but with normal mechanical means, as shown by the differing description of her stovetop between games. most significantly, noelle talks about how she wishes the light world were like the dark world, where “~everything can be healed with a little spell” when considering which world she prefers, and yeeah?? clearly the overworld doesn’t have magic???

so what in the great dog’s name are they made of in deltarune??? how do they function??? they obviously didn’t just change to be organic judging by apartment kid and the very existence of sans. how does a skeleton walk and talk without magic?? if they do have magic/are made of magic, why can’t they use it??? like if they could heal like they can in undertale rudy noelle wouldn’t bring up magic healing as a wistful implied solution, seeing as it didn’t save him in undertale (judging by asgore’s old alarm clock dialogue, paired with xbox sans bringing up the “antlered girl” showing that it wasn’t just asgore outliving him due to immortality since noelle is apparently still around).

and also darkners don’t have souls?? or are human-level souls the standard for monsters now and darkners have monster-like souls?? queen seems to think all lighteners have determination (speech about the knight), is that true and monsters just have way less or do they have humanlike souls in deltarune?? if so, why is kris’s soul the one that always seals the fountain? (if not i’m assuming it’s that human souls can persist outside the body EVEN after death (waterfall history) implying before death is also a possibility so susie can’t just eject her soul like that lol)

why are monsters able to use spells and bullets in the dark world but kris only has acts??? both monsters and darkners can use magic in the dark world, but not kris. ugh my head hurts

honestly i’ve had a sort of crack theory in my head for a while that monsters are descended from darkners, which is why they can use magic, but obviously that makes no sense for like every reason. but dude. still won’t leave my head

like, what’s most significant is this change was made at all. they could’ve still been chilling, baking fiery pies and intimidating fellow students with axe-bullets. although toby did say in the 6th anniversary stream he was originally considering making everyone human but didn’t for multiple reasons (i forget his exact wording), so maybe this is all just a holdover from that in an effort to make deltarune’s light world boring/make the dark world more fantasy-like in contrast

yeah i’m probably just over-analyzing but what’s new

[horkbajir99]

So I just replayed the Undertale pacifist route (to cleanse my conscience and because I love crying my eyes out 🤷🏼‍♂️) and during the fight with Asriel I noticed something weird...

When you save Sans and Papyrus, Sans is acting’s weird. And not just because of what he says, but HOW he says it.

All the other characters retain their usual voices and fonts during this fight. Except for Sans. His voice is entirely different.

We know Sans has two “voices”, his normal one and his “serious” one. The normal voice is self-explanatory—Comic Sans, goofy audio, no capital letters. I thought the voice in the screenshot might be his serious voice, but I was wrong.

The serious voice has no accompanying audio and uses the standard font with spaced out letters.

During the fight with Asriel, Sans speaks in the standard font, no capital letters, with the standard audio accompaniment and a wavy effect.

So Sans has THREE voices, not just two. So does this new voice have any significance? Did I do all this analysis for nothing? Who knows?

It is worth mentioning that Ralsei, a Darkner, is also capable of using multiple voices.

That is all.

[bubopeli]

Another piece of darkner Papyrus and Sans evidence: Papyrus's line "where i come from, it is custom to suffer through horrible puzzles for no reason!"

Whats a place that has horrible puzzles for no reason? Ah right.