#dc discourse

[hannigramislife]

you: tim and dick are such cute brothers!!

this place for some reason: the FUCK you say about jason????

Lmaooo exactly how it went. Somehow thinking Dick loves Tim means I'm also saying that Jason is the worst and he should have stayed dead and no one loves him. Apparently.

I'm like ??? I didn't even do anything this time 😭

[atarashura]

okay but imagine if you will that Bruce makes it there before Jason fully passes away. Digging through the debris, finding him rasping, choking for breath, spitting up blood.

Bruce already knows, but he’s a mess, begging his son not to die, begging him to please stay with him, not now, not yet, it’s too soon-

Jason can’t talk anymore, he’s just spitting up blood, hacking, rasping, but worst yet, his eyes are scared, he’s just a boy, Bruce can read it in his eyes.

“Please dad, don’t let me die, please-“

His breath stops.

Bruce is just shaking, cradling his dead son, sobbing.

I feel that Bruce arriving too late doesn’t give us the full emotional gut punch Jason’s death really deserved!

I’m ill I needed to write this down I’m so sorry

[mattysmadness]

i keep seeing superbat posts and if i see anything enough i have a desire to yap about it so let's go

ya see i dont really like superbat, it could never feasibly work in a mainline comic (obvious reasons being that DC are pussies and they can't have their poster boys be gay for each other) but mainly in universe just because both of them are terrible at being emotional and even if they were in love they would both take it to their graves. we must suspend our disbelief so batman can have one (1) romantic relationship he actually does stuff for.

HOWEVER, contrary to my previous point, if DC isn't toeing the line of romantic/platonic 24-goddamn-7 then it ain't a normal DC comic. Like in comics where Superman turns evil or makes a bad decision or whatever Batman will spend his time going "babe this isn't you 🥺🥺🥺" like he isn't a whole billionaire genius? Like Bruce is your genius plan to get Superman back on your side to seduce him?

But yeah anyways. Conclusion: superbat is incredibly fruity but they would never work long-term unless in an au where they both went to therapy as children

[rubydubydoo122]

Ah. Just remembered that between the Diplomats Son and DITF Jason and Bruce just NEVER talked about the balcony incident. They both just sit and let it fester until it eats both of them away. And sitting and letting the issue fester , especially when it comes to personal emotions about things, they won’t talk about it. it is Very Bruce (duh) and Very Jason (we see this when Willis was killed by Dent, he doesn’t get explosive anger, he stews in this grief of his. We kinda see this when he first learns life moved on without him in Lost Days)

Idk, where I’m going with this. Something about Jason almost never voicing situations that hurt him and Bruce steps on any cracks in their relationship making it worse. And Bruce not voicing how deep his guilt truly goes, and just about anything Jason does digs that guilt deeper and deeper.

I think the ONLY time we see Jason vocalizing his thoughts is during UTRH and Bruce was just not in the headspace to actually truly listens to what Jason was saying. (And then I guess it leads to more Guilt on Bruce’s part for not being able to help Jason in the way he needs) UTRH is the exception, because both of them express a fraction of what they feel, but they can’t get anywhere because the Love is tattooed into their souls, but the hurt and guilt run deep.

And I think writers don’t understand that specific parts, because now they just make any other confrontation between Jason and Bruce comes off as Bruce accuses Jason of something and Jason just takes it, any yeah? It kinda works? But I don’t think they’re writing them with the underlying emotions in mind. Theres a different motivation and feeling when you’re hurt by someone you love. When you feel guilty for something you’ve done to someone you love.

But I digress, I think that after UTRH the both of them would let any issues they had with one another continue to fester. Jason would stop bringing up the joker, and would stop trying to explain his own moral code. Jason wouldn’t ask Bruce to kill after that either. Bruce also works with other heros/antihero’s that kill from time to time, so he wouldn’t act as against Jason killing it as writers make him out to be. It would just add to his guilt complex of the ways he’s failed to save Jason. But Bruce would still try to get Jason to stop killing, and Jason would probably slow down for him, but it hurts him every time he sees a rapist or mass murder walk out of black gate or Arkham.

The beauty of Jason and Bruce is all the words left unsaid between them. It’s why they were compelling when Jason was dead, and they’re still compelling now that he’s back to life. They Love each other so much that they’re willing to suffer in their own silence, but that silence is suffocating them. Hurt and guilt are messsssy feelings that neither of them want to deal with

I actually don’t know if my train of thought was readable. I’m just rambling right now. Idk they should both never talk things out and constantly be stuck in their own heads about where they stand with the other.

[disaster-j]

Insisting that Talia is a rapist in the year 2026 and then saying you're totally not being racist is not the look babes

(DC themselves btw:)

[stopsignsworstenemy]

do men who complain about wokeness in movies watch actual movies or do they only watch disney movies aimed at children and nerd movies bcuz thats the only thing their mind can handle

[vikingpoteto]

Just saw someone saying Ollie kicking Roy out in snowbirds outweighs all of Bruce's fuck ups combined.... and I don't know how to say that Bruce put one of his children in a coma twice, prevented one of them from having a life outside vigilantism, got one of them killed, isolated one from the rest of the family by pretending he was dead and that's not even all the examples I can list from the top of my head. But sure, one storyline that is later addressed, and that Ollie apologizes for and IS FORGIVEN FOR is the problem. Outweighs everything.

[give-grian-rights]

i've gotten dropped into the DC franchise (primarily a handful of animated series) pretty hard, and i just fucking said to my self "god, i think nearly every portrayal of Barry Allen is great, he's literally such a great guy-" and then remembered that the character is currently being played in Cinema by a misogynist with kidnapping allegations