So, this post exists. The first 3 or so reblogs are deleted blogs and the next 7 are TERF blogs, so I’m just gonna re-iterate the main points so that people can spread the word w/o having to give TERFs notes.
Exhibit A (original post):
[image description: Facebook post by Frank Cho, cartoonist primarily employed for Marvel comic book art. Post reads: “Well, this just happened. Milo Manara, artist and Storyteller, came in at the last ten minutes of my Art and Women panel and handed me a special gift in appreciation for fighting censorship- an original watercolor painting of Spider-Woman. The packed auditorium went wild. Wow. I’m just speechless.” Post contains two photos. The first is of Milo Manara’s watercolor painting of Spider-Woman; her suit and stance are incredibly revealing, looking painted on. The second is of Frank Cho and Milo Manara holding the painting; behind them is a projected picture of Marvel’s Black Cat, leaning halfway out of a vent, with a speech bubble reading “bypass the guards, disable the motion sensors, avoid the cameras, and... and... crap! My big ass is stuck in the vents again. Damn my wife childbearing hips.]
Exhibit B (a pretty succinct explanation of What The Fuck Is Wrong With That Picture, présentes after someone claimed characters like He-Man suffered the same issue):
[image description: picture is a page from webcomic Shortpacked! page begins with a man complains to a woman that he’s tired of her “griping that chicks in comic books are sexually objectified! The dudes are, too! They’re big, impossibly-muscles hulks!” The woman responds, “first of all, google ‘false equivalence’. Being a big, impossibly-muscled hulk is a male power fantasy. It has jack to do with what a female such as myself finds attractive.” The woman then sketches what she considers to be an attractive version of Batman; she specifies that exaggerated eyes, “kissable lips”, and a lean build are things she desires. When the man sees the final sketch, he comments, “th-that art makes me feel uncomfortable.” To which the woman replies, “welcome to the background radiation of my life.”]
Exhibit C & D (taken from a later rebought that articulated the difference using real life examples:
To quote from the final reblog: “[the first photo is] Hugh Jackman on a men’s magazine. Hes shirtless and buff and angry. He’s imposing and agressive. This is a male power fantasy, it’s what men want to be and aspire to - intense masculinity... [the second photo is] Hugh Jackman on a women’s magazine. He looks like a dad. He looks like he’s going to bake me a quiche and sit and watch Game of Thrones with me. He looks like he gives really good hugs... Men think women want big hulking naked men in loin cloths which is why they always quote He-Man as male objectification - without realizing that He-Man is naked and buff in a loon cloth because MEN WANT HIM TO BE. More women would be happy to see him in a pink apron cutting vegetables and singing off-key to 70s rock... Men want objects. Women want PEOPLE.”
Anyways the coherent takeaway from the original post is “comic books should stop objectifying women & also please learn the difference between objectification and power fantasies before you clown on this post, men” and I’m just making a seorrate post so there’s no TERF reblogging you have to do.