#doomworld

[thathomestar]

It's that time of year once again!

[whump-is-love-whump-is-life]

You wanted to be asked to elaborate on a Barry in Doomworld AU? You have made me curious, please do elaborate. How many problems is Eobard Thawne causing now

GLADLY. Thank you for asking :D! First off, the post that prompted this ask.

I’ve got many ideas for how Barry could fit into (read: be whumped within) Doomworld, and that post solidified another one. Tbh now that I think on it the initial premise is similar to Armageddon/Reverse-Flashpoint but I’m gonna say it anyways.

…This is going under a cut. And I really hope it’s coherent.

Edit: I’d recommend reading this version for extra angst

So, Thawne frames Barry for some pretty awful murders. A Lot of them (probably in the hundreds. Speedster ya know, can get a lot done fast). (And he does it while wearing Barry’s face and mimicking his lightning color too (…yeah it’s what Armageddon did ik. It makes sense though!)). Anyways there’s a few ~specific~ kills that will come into play later.

Since Eobard has his usual red lightning and the murders were clearly committed by someone with yellow, it rules him out as a suspect and makes it easy for him to play the hero and ‘catch’ Barry in the act. Now. Could he just be thrown in prison? Sure. But I’m already onboard my Make It Worse train so choo choo motherfuckers we’re making the whump public.

Legally speaking who knows how this works but hey. Doomworld sucks so anything goes.

As far as everyone in the city knows, it’s a dangerous serial killer who’s trapped in a cage with transparent walls, kept on display in a public square. Sure he’s literally tortured sometimes, but why would anyone care when it’s just an awful person being punished for his crimes? And if anyone does have an issue with it, perhaps even suspect they got the wrong guy… Well they can take it up with Thawne! Oopsies their body will never be found. ANYWAYS. So Barry’s been kept like this for a while, but till let’s say the Doomworld episode, he’s just Barry Allen, a speedster but never The Flash— then our Barry’s mind and memories are essentially dropped into him (quick tangent— this is an implication of time fuckery that we never talk about. Post-Flashpoint, for example? The Barry everyone knew in that timeline is just Gone. The one who refused to save Dante for Cisco, probably had conversations with Iris about her anger with Joe, did and said some other things we couldn’t even know about— by time traveling with memories from a different timeline, Barry essentially erased this new timeline’s version of himself and replaced him. And this is NEVER ADDRESSED (I mean ofc it’s not. It’s really fucked up and the writers wouldn’t want to deal with it (…but frankly neither do I. It’s just something that occurred to me while making this post. ANYWAYS). So our Barry essentially replaces the other Barry, and he has no idea what the fuck is going on. One second he’s doing whatever he was doing at that point in Flash season 3; then the next he’s here, injured and trapped. He has his speed but he still can’t get out of the box. Anyone he asks for help, or even why he’s in there, gives him disgusted and angry looks, with no real answers.

And honestly, maybe Thawne doesn’t even stop by. He knows it’s his Barry now, he’s the one who chose that with the spear after all. So maybe he just lets him sit and wonder who did this to him, and why.

So Barry’s already asked random people for help. He’s probably increasingly desperate in this situation, even just for an explanation. Just imagine how he’ll react when he sees one of his loved ones walk by. And please now remember what I said about some specific murders that might come into play later… Can you hear my evil laughter from here?

Imagine he sees, let’s say, Iris. And he’s so SO relieved to see a familiar face, and of everyone who’s scorned him so far— She wouldn’t, right? She’d help him, right? Can you see his heart shatter when she looks at him with such intense hatred in her eyes, and walks past him without a second glance. And that hatred would be justified, if he actually did kill her father like she thinks he did.

And this repeats, when he inevitably sees his other loved ones look at him with that same hatred. Because Thawne killed people close to all of them intentionally. Except Cisco. But unfortunately not for any good reason.

There’s some things even the spear can’t modify, and Cisco’s powers appeared to be one of them. Eobard found out he still could vibe after killing Dante, and decided to kill Cisco too. He certainly didn’t want to (1x15 ya know), but the ability to vibe made Cisco too much of a threat. (Fun bonus of this is that he killed Cisco with Barry’s face. So when the timeline is put back to normal, Cisco may get some vibes of that death :) Just for funsies).

For the love of every god I went way off track too many times I’m so sorry. Also quick note that I probably don’t need to say but brain’s making me; as he did with all the Legends in the episode, Thawne definitely fucked with Team Flash’s heads and morals to make them ok with this whole situation. Pipeline-prison hell aside, this is obviously out of character and that’s part of the point.

Anyways back to the Barry suffering. He does figure out what happened eventually, and makes the connection that Thawne’s definitely the one who framed him. But what does it matter when no one will believe him? It’s like he’s 11 again except somehow worse. My braincells are running out but mix some classic Barry Allen Guilt Complex, 24/7 captivity, torture, everyone against him, and the fact that this is Season 3 Barry— and you get some inevitable thoughts about how, while he didn’t do anything to anyone in this timeline, he has hurt people, and killed people… Yeah this whole situation’s gonna get to him eventually.

Which I think is the perfect time for the Legends to rescue him. And he gets the desperate relief of someone believing and helping him. Plus, luckily everything’s gonna be fixed anyways so it’s fineeeeeeeee

Anyways. I’m done. Hope you enjoyed because it felt like I just wrang my brain out and let the thoughts spill like water out of a wet towel (not a bad thing. I just really hope this was coherent). Goodnight.

[firestormyaoi]

did anybody order 'doomworld ray obnoxiously crushing on his supervillain boss', or

[hedgiwithapen]

Hello! May I suggest something with Cisco Ramon and Eobard Thawne in the LoT Doomworld timeline?

Cisco Ramon took a step backwards, holding his rolled up blueprints and schematics tight to his chest. “Mr. Thawne?” he said, his voice far away. “What--I saw…” “What this time, Cisco?” Eobard asked. “Was it The Flash? Dr. McGee? Helping Dr Snow with Firestorm perhaps? Or was it our janitor,  Mr Palmer?” “I-- this time?” Cisco repeated, eyes wide. “I saw you... You killed…” “That really doesn’t narrow it down, Cisco. Such a shame.” Eobard moved, a blur of lightning, replacing is goldenrod tie and dark pinstripes for a different suit, bile yellow with a red emblem on the chest. Cisco stared, frozen. He knew that suit. He remembered.

“I tried removing your curiosity, your intellect, but…” Eobard moved across the gap between them, one gloved hand touching Cisco’s cheek. “You just weren’t you without them. But there’s only so many times I can use the Spear to rewrite things.” “Rewrite things?” Cisco echoed. “You…you changed history. You left the scars. I read about it, I…I know you did.” “Well, I’d be a little offended if you didn’t, I suppose,” Eobard sighed, clicking his tongue a little. “I’m afraid we just can’t do this any more. Of course I’m glad we gave it a try, but you understand.” “Wait,” Cisco said, fear filling his mouth. “What are you going to do?” “I’m told in another lifetime, you might have been like a son to me,” Eobard continued. “Not this one, though. And I have my sincere doubts it would have been enough to save you, anyways. I really can’t afford to have you messing up my plans, Vibe. Not when I’m so close.” He plunged his hand through the young scientist’s chest, and let him drop. Blood dripped down his glove, pooling under the body on the floor.  It was a shame. Ramon had been so useful with the reactor, but once the spear was destroyed, it would be impossible to keep adjusting for that pesky rippleproof memory that even the Spear didn’t seem able to fully undo. It was better this way, before things got messy. Eobard glanced at the body and the blood, and amended the thought. Before things got more messy.

[capnsdraw]

Sorry! I was really busy in some ways - Like mentally and creatively

Here are the arts specifically made for my doom modding resource topic called "Snapshooting Workshop 2" at Doomworld!

[kitkatt0430]

So I think the reason I haven't paid much attention to the Len/Savitar ship is because Len specifically tells Barry he thinks the Flash should stay a hero. Len's got a thing for hero!Barry and while he clearly finds the bad in Barry to be attractive too... his desire is for Barry to remain the person who inspired Len himself to become better.

But you know... I had a thought. About Doomworld Len. I always figured Legion of Doom Len was a little brainwashed by the rest of the Legion or at least Eobard. After all, Eobard is likely aware that Leonard Snart has the potential to turn hero and, well... Len acts weird in the Doomworld arc. Robbing a bank when there's no real challenge? There'd be no thrill in it for him and Len - the real Leonard Snart - would have hated it. Where's the art of the heist???

However... Doomworld Len and Savitar. Savitar somehow manages to survive the timeline flux brought on by the creation of Doomworld and while the main trio of the Legion toys with and kills Barry, Savitar keeps his head down and manages to survive despite being a paradox and being well aware the timeline shifted and is wrong. (Probably helps that Eobard has managed to cage the Black Flash.) But he can't resist staging a meeting between himself and Len. Maybe at Saints and Sinners. For nostalgia reasons.

And Savitar doesn't mean to, but what was supposed to be a 'one time chance meeting' actually becomes some kind of meet cute. They fall into bed together. Go on dates. Steal shit together. But once Savitar realizes it doesn't matter if they're caught or not... he points out that if there are no consequences to being caught, there's no real point in the theft. If it's not a real challenge then they might as well be playing laser tag. Which is fun, but it's not real.

Without meaning to, Savitar pushes Len to rediscover his real self. And as a result, Len starts becoming very dissatisfied with Doomworld. Mick is relieved to see his partner becoming more himself, though he doesn't know what to make of this version of Barry Allen. The three of them start to push back on the status quo and, much as Savitar pushed Len to rediscover his true self... Len and Mick begin unwittingly pushing Savitar to rediscover the side of himself who cared about others and wanted to save people from suffering the kind of losses he'd suffered.

Savitar isn't going to be the kind of hero the original Barry Allen was... but he's fallen in with two people who would be just fine with that. But they don't want to fix the timeline back to how it used to be. Len would be dead and Savitar would be back to needing to kill Iris to ensure his own creation. But what if they stole the Spear of Destiny before Eobard could destroy it? Rewrote Doomworld into a reality that actually suited the three of them for real?

[simp4lifw]

Iris west art :)

Coldflash!!!

[wizzybiscuit]

I wanted a new Doomworld avatar so I drew a pixel art version of my sona! The plushie I'm holding is Pinkfish (Gyopi from Goldfish Warning!), my original avatar on the site. (Original resolution under the cut)