When attending a wedding, do you follow the dress code even if you disagree with it?
Yes, out of respect for the couple getting married
Yes, because a dress code is a dress code
Yes, another reason
No, even if I own something that fits the dress code, I'll wear what I want
No but mainly because I don't own many options and can't afford to buy extra
Other
I don't know/never been in this situation/no opinion
Voting ended onDec 22, 2025
Anon has a friend who converted to Islam a while ago, and is now engaged. The wedding invitation specified a modest dress code (like long dresses with long sleeves). The women in the bride's family are upset with there being a modest dress code because they think she's trying to change them (she's not) and they don't want to adhere to the dress code.
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i went to an incredibly lax school. We had “character days” where people could dress up as characters. Cosplayers went all out. People showed up in inflatable dino costumes. This wasn’t a distraction. I did get some cool pictures. And then i took class with miku. And everyone was chill. People are way more chill than you think they are. Lock in
"A hobble skirt was the pencil skirt of the early 1900s. It had a very narrow hem and often included a tie or band below the knee so the wearer had to walk with very tiny steps or risk falling over or tearing her dress. There was even a special "hobble garter" to wear in case you were having trouble remembering not to walk normally. It was new and silly so of course people freaked out and started making Rules to try to control what other people wore.
Visitors say arbitrary and changing rules prevent visitation and cause stress to families and their detained loved ones
Farhana Sabeeha at The Guardian:
In January, Gabriela Soto’s husband was detained in Delaney Hall, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention center in Newark, New Jersey. She has been “very stressed” in the months since, comforting her heartbroken children and spending thousands of dollars on asylum-related legal cases. She has regularly visited her husband on weekends at the facility. She is one of hundreds of visitors lining up every week to see loved ones.
But Delaney Hall has rejected her visits time and time again over supposed dress code violations. More than 10 times, Soto said, she has been told that either she or her children could not visit because of what they were wearing.
In one such visit, a guard nearly rejected them because of Soto’s 11-month-old’s onesie, she said. On another occasion, she told the Guardian, Delaney Hall rejected them because Gabriela’s four-year-old daughter was in leggings. When Gabriela would ask why their clothes weren’t allowed, guards said they were too “provocative”, she said.
“How is that provocative if she’s only four years old?” said Gabriela, referring to her daughter.
In recent weeks, Delaney Hall has gained national attention after mass protests erupted outside the facility, alongside reports of a detainee hunger strike inside. As clashes between demonstrators and police continued for days, dozens of protesters were reportedly arrested. The state of New Jersey has sued the facility’s private owner, Geo Group, to allow state health inspectors greater access, alleging “unsanitary food and drink preparation and storage”.
The health department of New Jersey has also received a report of “potentially inadequate tuberculosis infection control practices”, according to the legal filing.
In a statement, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) said health inspectors had already been granted access to the facility and that there was no hunger strike. But demonstrators continue to demand an end to alleged inhumane conditions, with some advocates calling the facility a concentration camp. Soto was among them, leading protests outside the facility and demanding that her husband be freed.
But as well as inhumane treatment of detainees, family members like Soto say the institution has found more arbitrary ways to create distress.
Since the facility opened last May, guards have rejected families, some traveling from faraway states like Texas, over leggings, Crocs, heels, dresses, shorts and more. Closely resembling prison dress codes, the regulations for visitors ban any form-fitting, revealing clothing, from open-toed shoes and leggings to pants with holes – and even wearing a T-shirt without a bra. “Gang colors”, which are not defined, are also prohibited.
The dress code states that it applies only to visitors aged 12 and older. However, in the past year, Delaney Hall has often rejected much younger kids, such as Gabriela’s toddler. According to testimony from visitors and activists, the facility has rejected preschool or elementary-aged girls over frocks and leggings.
Since March, I’ve been interviewing visiting families and advocates outside the facility.
Delaney Hall is not the only ICE detention center with harsh dress code policies. However, activists say that Delaney Hall’s dress code is unusually cruel and invasive. As longtime Pax Christi USA activist Kathy O’Leary put it: “Delaney Hall is weird.”
She compared it to the nearby Elizabeth detention center, which she said “has Catholic school uniform rules. If your skirt doesn’t go below the tips of your fingers … then your skirt is too short.” But in Delaney Hall, she said, “your skirt has to be below your knees”.
In particular, O’Leary highlighted that she had never seen another ICE detention center reject kids because of their clothing.
Other activists, including from #EyesonIce, said that the dress code was being wielded to separate families, pushing detainees to accept voluntary departure.
ICE initially ignored requests for comment. After publication, they told the Guardian “All visitors to ICE detention centers must follow the dress code. This rule is strictly enforced to protect visitors and complies with our national detention standard. ICE and its facility administrators at Delaney Hall Detention Facility adhere to the national detention standards and are committed to ensuring good order and discipline at the facility.” Geo Group, which runs the facility, directed all inquiries to ICE.
But activists have come up with a response to dress code enforcement. Outside Delaney Hall, on every visitation day, a group of volunteers, including O’Leary, hand out free clothes to rejected visitors. The efforts of these volunteers, who are part of the #EyesOnIce protest group, have allowed scores of visitors to see their loved ones since the facility opened.
A growing pile of Crocs
On 28 April, warm gusts of wind swept a foul stench outside Delaney Hall, a side-effect of the facility’s proximity to a sewage treatment facility. At the front gate, activists in face masks waited with plastic bins, each packed to the brim with clothes for visitors to borrow: shirts, pants and shoes in a spectrum of sizes, from baby-sized onesies to plus-sized sweatpants.
Guards rejected more than a dozen visitors for alleged dress code violations on that Tuesday, according to activist records.
A 16-year-old girl was rejected for a knee-length black smock dress that, she said, was permitted under her school’s uniform policy. Delaney Hall’s dress code also expressly allows “skirts and dresses … [which] extend to knee, seated”.
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Crocs are some of the most commonly rejected clothing items in Delaney Hall, especially in the summer, because of the facility’s policy against open-toed shoes. A pile of leftover crocs often sit by the clothing bins until visitors come back to retrieve them.
On that Tuesday alone, five documented rejections were over visitors’ shoes. Besides Crocs, heels and sandals are also often rejected, including closed-toe models. Delaney Hall’s public dress code guidelines on footwear only state that shoes must be “worn at all times” and “open-toed shoes are prohibited”.
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The rules are always changing
Many visitors say the dress code worsens the anxiety they feel when visiting the facility, with some saying they want to comply with the dress code but can’t understand how it’s enforced.
Valeria, a young mother raising an infant, said she had been visiting her baby’s father in Delaney Hall for months. In this period, she said she was rejected approximately 10 times for dress code infractions. She said the rules were always changing.
“I could wear these pants for a week, and out of nowhere, they’re like, ‘You cannot come in this,’” said Valeria, her baby fidgeting in her arms. “It depends on the officer [on duty].”
Valeria felt most regretful over the loss of visitation time with her loved ones. “You gotta run [to borrow clothes from the activists outside] and it takes four minutes of your visit.” She stressed that every minute of each visit mattered a lot to loved ones in detention, who are “so tense”.
The Guardian has a solid report on the draconian and arbitrary dress code for visitors who visit the GEO Group-run Delaney Hall concentration camp that deems leggings, Crocs, dresses, and shorts as “provocative.”
Girls Sent Home from School for Wearing Slacks, Chicago 1946
(Original Caption) 12/13/1946-Chicago, IL: Sent home from the Cregier Branch of the McKinley High School , Chicago, for wearing slcks and blue jeans are, Left to Right: Anda Lorci, Delores Lcascio, Grace Nanice, Jennie Nigro, and Priscilla Nicholas. When thjey returned wearring skirts and hose they were re-admitted to class. An estimated 250 students are out on strike protesting ban of slacks, fines for chewing gum and the lack of mirrors.
I feel like I’ve created enough templates for your mind development, routines, habits, etc. I’m getting bored with putting out the same content in a different manner so now I’m going to start switching up my content. I’m going to focus more on how one can carry themselves, socialise, etc etc.
My first article under this segment “Cultural Education” here will be about dress codes. You will find this segment on my pinned post.
Culturally, dress codes differ from one another. The western world is generally more tolerant towards showing of skin, for instance; but if you were to attend formal events in Asia and the Middle East, I’d highly, highly recommend you opt for a more modest look.
This is a very brief breakdown on what a woman can wear and when.
Images are for examples only.
1. Casual
Meaning: low-key, but not like you just woke up.
* Sundress
* Long/ midi skirt
* Tailored pants or nice jeans (not ripped, distressed, acid wash- plain and simple)
* Tailored shorts
* Plain T-shirt (no graphics), polo t-shirt, turtleneck
* Button-down shirt
2. Dressy
Meaning: no jeans, generally use of lighter colours
* Skirt (not bum short)
* Tailored trousers
* Dress
* Co ord sets
* Jumpsuits
* Sundresses
3. Semi formal
Meaning: dressier than your corporate office job, but more casual than a formal gown.
* LBD (but not too little)
* Maxi skirt
* Cocktail dress
4. Business
Meaning: what a typical office senior person would wear.
* Suit
* Dress (modest; at least knee length; not too short)
* Dress with a jacket
* Blazer and a skirt
* Stockings (optional in summer)
* 3-4 inch heels / loafers / flats
5. Business casual
Meaning: what one would typically wear everyday to a corporate job that does NOT abide by Gen Z clothing (meaning slightly more conservative)
* Skirt, khakis, or pants
* Open-collar shirt, knit shirt or sweater (no spaghetti straps or décolleté)
* Dress (again, modest)
6. Black tie
Meaning: formal evening events, generally after 6 pm.
Interviewer: have you seen fans joke around that, We’re gonna show up dressed as lemons, in honor of Lemonade? 
Louis: Yeah, I have seen that. Often my fans come up with innovative ways of trying to make me laugh. Yeah, each to their own! I mean, it's not something I'd be doing, dressing up as a lemon, but each to their own. I'm sure they'll look cool.
Interviewer: I mean, what is the How Did We Get Here Tour dress code?
Louis: Dress how you want! Dress how you want. And it's certainly not like too dressy. I always think it's dead funny when people are dressed up for a gig. No offence to anyone, but yeah, just come how you want, ‘cuz there is no dress code… unless there's a burly bouncer at the door who's gonna tell you to not wear trainers. But I doubt it.
- Louis Tomlinson paints a chaotic portrait while answering questions. Capital Buzz (31.10.2025)
