Danganronpa V3 Daily Log (Masterlist)
A chronological recap, including all key events, motives, and discoveries.
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Chapter 1 (Including Prologue)
Chapter 2
Chapter 3
Chapter 4
Chapter 5
Chapter 6 (Including Epilogue)

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Danganronpa V3 Daily Log (Masterlist)
A chronological recap, including all key events, motives, and discoveries.
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Chapter 1 (Including Prologue)
Chapter 2
Chapter 3
Chapter 4
Chapter 5
Chapter 6 (Including Epilogue)
Chapter 2: Issues with Shuichi’s Reasoning and Other Strange Things (DRV3)
Note: This post is focused only on the physical evidence and deductions of Chapter 2. I’ll take a closer look at other stuff—people’s lies, contradictions, the motive videos, etc.—of Ch. 2 in future posts.
1. The Ropeway Rope
The rope allegedly used to create the ropeway was found backstage at Himiko’s magic show. Angie mentioned that it had moved during the night, so it’s implied that the culprit had used it and moved it, but how exactly it got backstage was never fully addressed.
This is the theory that Kiyo made in the trial—that the rope was thrown in from the pool window—and everyone just sorta goes with it. But this theory contradicts what Shuichi deducts in his closing argument.
So he chooses to just... not address it. At all. His conclusion ends here, right after the rope falls into the pool.
The culprit can’t throw the rope through from the window if they had already untied the rope and jumped down from it.
So how exactly does the rope end up backstage? We don’t know for sure.
I guess the culprit could have thrown it through from poolside, but wouldn’t that risk disturbing the body and the scene?... Actually, better question, why would the culprit bother returning the rope to the gym at all?
2. The Inner Tube Rope
The small section of rope tied to the inner tube came from nowhere. We can only assume the culprit acquired it from the warehouse.
But if the culprit knew that rope was readily available in the warehouse, why would they use the rope that was laying in the gym for their murder plan? It would only draw suspicion to themselves. And also, why would they bother using the wire from the tennis court net if they had extra rope to use in the warehouse?
This point is also not addressed in Shuichi’s closing argument.
It’s funny, because in the trial, they even have a discussion about how “there’s no other rope but the one in the gym.”
3. The Mystery of Ryoma’s Clothes
In the animation depicting him getting eaten by piranhas, Ryoma’s clothes are torn to shreds. It makes sense—the piranhas wouldn’t be able to get at his flesh without getting through the clothing first.
But during his investigation, his clothes were recovered completely intact? Huh?
Shuichi skips over this point in closing arguments as well.
Along the same lines, the ankle cuff that Ryoma always wears is missing from the recovered items.
4. Placing the Body in the Piranha Tank
They really stress multiple times throughout the trial that if this trick was to work, the culprit must place the body in the tank carefully to keep the glass pane from shifting.
But according to Monosuke, carefully placing it wasn’t an option.
(I ran out of image space so here are some quotes!)
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Korekiyo Shinguji: “You say the culprit placed their foot on the windowsill? Isn’t that against school rules?”
Monosuke: “Last time we were asked that question, we decided it was okay. Stickin’ your body through the window is an automatic out, but standing on the sill is—” [interrupted by other monokubs]
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Standing on the sill is fine, but reaching your body through is an automatic out. If ‘body’ also includes the culprits arms, the culprit would have no choice but to drop the body in from their place on the windowsill. Placing it in the tank carefully—“with their own hands,” even, as Ouma had said—wouldn’t be possible.
Granted, the culprit would only be dropping it a meter or so, but when it’s a dense, ninety-pound human body, any amount of distance would wind up causing a big disturbance to the water and, very possibly, the glass pane.
I ran out of picture space, but Shuichi’s deduction (you can kinda see it in the panels in point 1) shows the body gently floating down into the tank, where it doesn’t even make a splash.
Buuuut whatever. I may need to chock this one up to ‘video game physics.’
Even still, though... it’s kind of a big risk for the culprit to take if this trick was that important.
5. The Stairs
That’s not where the hinges were, bud.
From what we see, the staircase has a pretty large opening/door that contradicts the tiny space Shuichi imagines. Though we never get to see what the stairs actually look like, this calls into question whether Himiko’s trick was really performed the way Shuichi thought it was—which is a pretty big deal. Illusionists and magicians can do all sorts of crazy things, so when there’s a murder mystery involved, it’s kind of important to know exactly what’s going on with their trick.
It is strange that Shuichi just never investigated the staircase. Did he really just not notice it, or did he perhaps ignore it on purpose for some reason?...
Some other smaller issues/mysteries:
-The alleged culprit chose to use their own gloves as a brake, despite that fact that using literally anything else would’ve worked just as well.
-The alleged culprit, the Ultimate Maid, did not clean up after herself?... If it really was impossible during nighttime, then she could’ve quickly cleaned it up in the morning when the pool reopened. She probably would’ve risked getting caught by doing so, but considering how damning the evidence is, why wouldn’t she take that risk?
-What’s up with the piranhas? Even Shuichi said they didn’t look normal. Himiko said they were in her lab but we (as the player) never saw a tank of piranhas in there before.
-The weapon or object allegedly used to knock Ryoma unconscious was never identified.
-Ryoma’s skeleton has a crack in its skull that’s never addressed. Was it from being knocked unconscious? But a blow strong enough to break bone would probably just kill him, right?
i’m nothing special.
♚ surrounding the events of chapter 2. one life for many, two lives for naught.
"Sacrificing you all meant saving the lives of men, women, children, and the elderly...
I...I wanted to live".
Did you know that Dahlias symbolize elegance, creativity, inner strength, change as well as dignity?? Red Dahlias, however symbolize dishonesty and betrayal. So be careful next time you wanna gift someone flowers!
-sei
I actually wanted to make a post about how cool I think it is that Kokichi isn’t the only one who’s (apparently) good at hide-and-seek, but then I had to think about what Kaito said, and…
Bedrooms? As in the plural form of bedroom? As in—Kaito, you also hid in the others' rooms?
I don’t know what’s more scandalous ... That or the girls' bathroom...
Looking back, I think it’s kind of sad that Kaede technically betrayed Kaito’s trust. He was worried she might do something reckless—especially because he already perceived her as someone who gets ahead of herself sometimes—but her reassurances went to naught once the stakes became too high for her to play it safe.
I think he admired her, but that doesn’t mean he thought she didn’t have any flaws. He often tried to help and stand by her, for which Kaede was internally grateful. But the time they had together was never quite enough for them to reach a true foundation of trust. Kaito was never able to prove himself reliable in front of Kaede, especially because back then he acted pretty recklessly and almost got himself killed. Pretty unfortunate, if you ask me.
Kaito was also aware that Kaede and Shuichi were planning something behind the scenes. He and some others had overheard their whispering, but he chose not to press the issue and instead put his trust in them. However, when he eventually found out what they had been doing—their suspicion of a mastermind, the hidden door, and so on—he was surprised they had kept it all to themselves.
I'm also certain that Kaito never believed that what Kaede did—her plan to kill the mastermind—was the right thing to do. Kaito was pretty vocal about murder being wrong, and he also didn't want to kill Kokichi when he thought he was the mastermind, but he judges people differently by their intent. If someone were to kill for some sadistic and/or selfish reason or if someone were to misguidedly kill for a noble cause or reasons out of their control, these are entirely different circumstances.
It might not be fair to the victims, but for that matter, Kaede’s choice didn’t change his perception of her. What she instilled in them, and the encouragement she gave them, still gave them strength. Why should he turn his back on her if her words still carried meaning? She was being honest.
It’s a similar phenomenon you see at the end of Kirumi’s trial. Kaito didn’t want Kirumi’s manipulation to succeed, but he also didn’t hold a grudge against her attempt since he could sympathize with her desire to live. Nobody would've blamed him if he would’ve gotten upset, but Kaito’s character was always about trying to understand other people, which also extended to people who committed more morally questionable deeds.
He also admitted that Kokichi's mastermind plot brought them closer to the truth, ultimately framing it as a good thing, despite his former misgivings.
Analysis: Kaito & The Fake Stars
Warning: This post is based around my own perception of Kaito and can be seen as speculative. Regardless, I tried to base my claims on as much evidence as I could, though, for the flow of my analysis, I've cut a few aspects short.
I’ve been wanting to express my thoughts on this topic for a while now, since it’s something that has been on my mind—namely, why Kaito, self-proclaimed luminary of the stars, never said anything about their incorrect positioning, and why the writers instead decided to let Gonta mention it.
So to start things off, let's take a look at the scene:
Gonta wonders if maybe they were taken somewhere far away, at which point Shuichi starts to think about it as well—but then...
You would expect Kaito to at least have something to say about it, but instead he cuts the conversation short and says he's feeling “wiped out.” It’s quite an abrupt change of subject, and especially odd that it's coming from Kaito.
I mean, yeah, maybe he really was just tired, or his illness was already starting to show. But the timing is pretty odd, and I can’t quite imagine that the writers didn’t put any intent into this.
However, if that’s the case, it would mean that Kaito deliberately interrupted their conversation to prevent Gonta, Shuichi, and, to an extent, the others from talking about it. Which naturally raises the question: why?
Before I get into that, though, I want to address whether Kaito even noticed the stars were wrongly positioned.
During the main story, Kaito spoke about space and the stars more in a philosophical and inspirational way than in a scientific one. Likewise, when he listed for Shuichi all the areas an astronaut has to master, he didn’t mention astronomy or anything related to navigating and locating constellations, which might lead one to think that Kaito simply wasn't trained in that area.
For the astronaut exam, memorizing constellations isn’t required either. However, it is a topic often covered during training in case of technical difficulties where one would need to fall back on old methods of celestial navigation (or so I've heard).
That suggests that Kaito probably has learned about it as well. And even if he hadn’t been in training long enough, Kaito's very passionate about the stars and loves spending time observing them. I can’t imagine, under those circumstances, that he wouldn’t have taught himself something about them—especially since his success in passing the astronaut exam shows he’s actually pretty good at teaching himself.
So, after explaining why I believe Kaito should have noticed the discrepancy in the stars, let’s return to the question of why he may not have wanted to talk about it.
Here are some possible hypotheses of what the wrongly positioned stars might mean given the knowledge they had at the moment:
1) The sky's only a projection and fake
In that case, one might ask why the mastermind felt the need to create a false sky. The most obvious answer would be that they wanted to hide something from view. But what? What is out there to see? If that were the case, they could've simply slapped an opaque ceiling over their heads. The projection of a sky would be pointless—so there probably must be a deeper reason behind it. Perhaps it’s to create the illusion of a day-and-night rhythm? But then again, why? Is it for the participants or for someone else? In this scenario, you can think about it endlessly, but you’ll never come to a concrete answer.
2) They aren't on Earth
In this case, the sky would be real, and they would be on a planet whose sky closely resembles Earth’s. But the thought of suddenly being on another, presumably unexplored, planet would be absurd, right? How could they have gotten there so quickly? What would that imply? How would the mastermind and the organizers of the game even be capable of pulling that off? This is a scenario that would bring no comforting conclusions either.
3) They're thousands of years in the future and/or a massive gravitational anomaly has occurred
This is an implication one would want to think about even less. What would that even mean for them? Absolutely insane—
All of these could be possible hypotheses, with the “the sky is a projection” theory still being the mildest. But none of these hypotheses can actually be proven. In principle, thinking about it would only spread uncertainty and bring no results. The only way they could truly discover the truth would be either by escaping the academy and checking for themselves or by breaking through the end wall. Merely thinking about it would be essentially pointless.
I can imagine that this could've been the reason why he might not wanted them to talk about it. This doesn’t necessarily mean that he thought everything through and worked himself up over it, but rather that he realized from the start that it was one of those things not worth dwelling on. Kaito himself once hinted to something similar and maybe that’s also the reason why he so vehemently proclaimed that he should be the only one who gets to talk about space.
Kaito also isn’t the type of person who likes to think about worst-case scenarios or anything pessimistic for that matter, and in this case nothing positive would come from doing so.
Additionally, I want to mention that in Chapter 5, Kaito says that the world's probably fine because the sky looks normal. That might actually support the idea that Kaito believes the sky's real, but of course, the question remains whether Kaito truly believes that or if he only wants to believe that.
Before they opened the door in the Death Road of Despair, Kaito also said something along the lines of them graduating from the Academy of Lies. Which could imply that Kaito might've thought that a lot of information they gained from the academy were lies—at least everything connected to Monokuma and the organizers of the killing game—so there’s that.
Danganronpa V3 White Noise
A chronological list of every white noise in each trial, with added context for better understanding.
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Chapter 1
Chapter 2
Chapter 3
Chapter 4
Chapter 5
Chapter 6