#extra turns

[magicjudge]

Hi, here's a question. My opponent casts Time Warp and I cast Fork targeting it in response. My copied Time Warp resolves before my opponent, great. So for sure one of us is taking an extra turn, followed by another, regardless of other players that might be in the game, but what order? Does mine resolving first mean I take my extra turn before or after my opponent's?

When there are multiple extra turns waiting to be taken, they're taken in the reverse order from how they were created, i.e. the mostly recently created extra turn is taken first.

So, in the situation you describe, your Fork resolves and copies Time Warp and creates an extra turn for you. Then the original resolves and creates an extra turn for your opponent. When they pass their turn, they'll begin their extra turn since it was created most recently. Your extra turn will follow thereafter and then the game will return to the normal turn order with whoever would normally go after the opponent who cast Time Warp.

[commander-of-the-week]

Commander of the Week

The Many Forms of Yidris, Maelstrom Wanderer 

Out of the commander 2016 four color commanders, Yidris is probably the most interesting allowing for several different strategies. I find that the other four encourage a certain strategy and makes it very hard to deviate from that strategy. With Yidris however, It’s quite easy to come up with a pretty good list for a voltron deck, a deck made up largely of creatures and a spell-slinging deck. Yidris is a 5/4 for 4 mana with Trample, that bestows cascade to spells cast from your hand if he deals combat damage that turn. 

Creature Heavy decks 

This deck is mostly green and super easy to build, just take an old Kruphix, God of Horizons deck (minus the prophet mind you, which really hurts my Kruphix deck), that probably contains creatures like Craterhoof Behemoth, Trygon Predator, Progenitor Mimic and Avenger of Zendikar and add some of the add some mana dorks like Somberwald Sage, Bloom Tender, Gyre Sage and Birds of Paradise. Then just add some cool red and/or black spells like Stalking Vengeance, Inferno Titan, Warstorm Surge and Master of Cruelties. 

Spell-slinging Decks 

This deck will be mostly Red and Blue. Though this deck will have far fewer creatures, it will contain several of the same mana dorks. Though this deck will contain creatures such as Mirrorwing Dragon, Zada, Hedron Grinder, Mercurial Geists and Nivix Cyclops along with any creature that gains a bonus when instant and sorcery spells are cast. Most of the spells in this deck will be really cheap and will hopefully allow you to draw cards. These will include spells like Uncaged Fury, Distortion Strike, Giant Growth and Butcher’s Glee. Paradox Engine and Cryptolith Rite make a really good combination too allowing you to tap your creatures to produce the mana needed to cast these spells. Aetherflux Reservoir is also a good choice for this deck for life gain and a potential win condition.

Voltron Decks 

This is much like my idea for the spell-slinging deck only with more permanent methods of “powering-up” the commander and other creatures perhaps. I thought maybe auras such as Rancor, Claws of Valakut, Aqueous Form and Auramancer’s Guise. Or Equipment such as the Sword of Feast and Famine, Lashwrithe, Nim Deathmantle and Whispersilk Cloak, or a combination of both. Decimator of the Provinces and Craterhoof Behemoth are both good finishers in such a deck.

Extra Turn Decks (Please, No)

This is pretty self explanatory and not something I advocate. Spells such as Temporal Extortion, Time Stretch, Time Warp and Temporal Mastery are all common choices for such a deck and Yidris’s Cascade ability just makes it easier to run into them. I wouldn’t recommend doing too much of this or the table will quickly turn against you.  

And Finally...

Land bases for four color decks are challenging and I’m still struggling to come up with one that works well. Terramorphic Expanse, Expedition Map and anything that searches for land is sorely needed as is anything that taps for any color such as Command Tower, Ancient Ziggurat (In creature decks) and Exotic Orchard. The lands from Ravnica block like Rakdos Carnarium and Simic Growth Chamber are also very good, especially when combined with lands like Halimar Depths or Bojuka Bog allowing you to recur their abilities. I do hope you find this helpful, I have put a creature list together for Yidris but I still have to finish lists for the other decks when I finish them I will post them shortly. Until Next Week, Happy Deck Building.

[magicjudge]

Happened in a real game: my opponent casts a show and tell, in response I cast seed time, he gives me the okay that it resolves. Then we resolve show and tell, he puts omniscience into play, and casts emrakul the aeons torn. Who takes the extra turn first? Bonus: if he had emrakul the promised end which of my turns would he take over?

The most recently created extra turn is taken first, so your opponent will take their Emrakul turn before you take your Seedtime turn. If it’s easier for you to visualize, you can think of extra turns having their own stack where they pile up waiting to be taken.

In the case of player-controlling effects, they apply to the next turn the chosen player would take, so your opponent would control your Seedtime turn, then you’d take the extra turn from Emrakul 2.0 and then your normal turn.

[magicjudge]

In a 4 player game of EDH, my opponent controls a Timesifter, and then casts Fractured Identity targeting Timesifter, thereby giving all three opponents a copy of the card. At the beginning of the next upkeep, what is the order of the extra turns created?

First of all, if this happens, you’re going to need some paper and a pen to keep track of all the triggers and extra turns.

At the beginning of the next player’s turn, there are three Timesifter triggers. As each one resolves, an extra turn is created. Extra turns that are created are taken in a last in, first out order. If we call the first extra turn created A1, with the second being B1, and the third being C1, then extra turn C1 will be taken immediately after the current turn. Turns A1 and B1 are still waiting to be taken, though, and would happen after turn C1 if it weren’t for the Timesifters.

When turn C1 begins, the Timesifters trigger again, creating extra turns A2, B2, and C2. C2 is the most recently created extra turn, so it will happen after the current turn, with B2, A2, B1, and A1 still waiting in the queue to happen. This process will continue with extra turns accumulating until there are no Timesifters left on the battlefield. Once all the Timesifters are gone, the extra turns will be taken one by one and eventually, the game will return to the normal turn order.

[magicjudge]

What happens when you cast Wormfang Manta and it dies before your next turn?

Basically nothing.

When Wormfang Manta enters the battlefield, you skip your next turn. Effects like this that want you to skip a turn (or part of a turn) wait for the next time you would begin a turn (or a part of a turn) and replace that turn with nothing. The skipped turn will be whichever turn you would take next, not just your next normal turn in the turn order.

When Wormfang Manta dies, you take an extra turn after the current turn. Once the current turn ends, you’ll begin that extra turn. 

If this Wormfang Manta’s second triggered ability resolves before you’ve skipped a turn for its first triggered ability, then the turn that will be skipped is that same extra turn that’s created by the second trigger since it’s the next turn you would actually take.

[thousand-year-storm]

I've already posted about a extra turns eldrazi deck but this time it's a 7th place finish from Wutup that makes more sense to me because there are chalices and a lot of islands. I wonder if this could be played without the Tidebinders ?

Notice how more and more decks need 4 consign to memory in the sideboard ? 😱

[homebrewdtyrant]

Dank Jank Combo: I Need More Time... (Part Two)

Ever wish you could just have all the infinite turns to yourself? Hate playing in other colors besides blue? Are you a fan of Rocky Horror Picture Show’s hit single “Time Warp”??  Well friend, do I have a combo for you! 

The Combo

First we begin with Naban, Dean of Iteration on the field with Archaeomancer. We can have Time Warp in our hand or in the graveyard but Ghostly Flicker must be in our hand to start. Cast Ghostly Flicker, targeting the Archaeomancer and another permanent we control. A Tolarian Academy or Gilded Lotus would be preferable targets for mana. As Archaeomancer enters the battlefield it will trigger Naban, who will allow us to copy Archaeomancer’s etb ability because it is a Wizard. This will allow us to bring back the Ghostly Flicker and the Time Warp to our hand. We cast Time Warp, targeting our self. We do what we need to do with whatever mana we have and pass the turn to our self. Cast Ghostly Flicker targeting the Archaeomancer and said XXX permanent and viola! We get a loop where we can keep bringing back Time Warp to our and giving us never ending turns. 

Now for more shenanigans we can run Panharmonicon with this combo to bring back three instant or sorcery cards from our graveyard to our hand. In this scenario we utilize High Tide to get us endless mana from our Islands to use for our endless turns. I don’t think I need to explain that Paradox Engine would also be bonkers here with a few mana rocks/dorks. 

This whole combo is really janky and may rarely ever come together but as a side win con in a very casual game among friends, I could see this being a memorable moment at one of my tabletops when someone finally pulls the combo off. 8 mana is a lot to keep a combo going but with mana rocks and careful planning I could see it happening once in a glorious blue moon. Who would you run this combo with as a Commander? Let me know and tell me if there are any other dank jank cards you’d throw in your deck to accompany this. Time’s ticking! Better take your turns before someone else does!