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[zaritarazi]

so i’ve been thinking about the real shitty fairly anti-women stuff that was said by el rey’s network president, and it really got me thinking about how it clearly applied to the parts i was fairly meh about on s3. and i’m not really blaming cotos for this, because i really feel like he had a gun to his head so to speak on this, but like

- kate being amaru instead of having her own arc? that smacks to me very strongly of them just being like eh, agency? fuck it?? it feels lazier and lazier the more i think about it

- richie as a whole getting shelved. especially since the network president went on about masculinity and all of that, and richie has never fit that archetype the way seth has? and that was a major plus for dusk as a show, especially in the first two seasons. and when they backslid into that sort of trope, they ended up pretty much ruining freddie’s character, ignoring richie, and giving seth way too much focus when richie is the one that’s always been prophesied about

- it’s very interesting to me how only now are people speaking out against el rey, because it’s become apparent they might not get what they want- the show has already been treating the geckos kind of strangely, but very few people seemed to mind when they were getting what that want- and that’s coming from me who loves sk and loved episodes 4 + 7 but am still capable of making critique, i know, shocking

- it’s like the disconnect between the super sexualized advertisements and the actual message of the show has finally become connected again, and let me just say, yikes

- and again, fandom loves to do that thing where if you give them a chance to ignore the mentally ill character, they will- this is hardly just a dusk problem, issac lahey sends his regards- but it’s nice to see who’s ableist deep down when it’s not trendy to support mentally ill characters (el rey as a network i guess?)

[archivedblogposts]

I can respect other people’s opinions, but there are certain statements that go too far. If you seriously believe Kate is Seth’s abuser because she “enabled his addiction”, you are a disgusting human being.

[ladyculebras]

hey I appreciate you trying to defend your friend I really do but i'd like to let you know I never fucking ONCE sent an anon to your firend. not once. I asked what my friends did that doesn't mean I sent an anon. but yeah expose me for smth I didn't do that's cool

1. I appreciate you sending an ask to talk to me about this, really. The next few things I say will probably make you doubt that but I do appreciate coming directly to me.

2. UM. In the second screencap I have, it’s you saying “she made post complaining about us.” I know that that was the morning after the 15th, and the posts Heather made was complaining about the sexually explicit Seth/Kate anons. So I assume us would include YOU in that, as one of the people sending anons. As one of the people she was complaining about.

If that’s not true, if you really didn’t send any anon messages....well you clearly considered yourself party to that whole event in some way then. It seemed like you were definitely part of it and you know what? You may not have sent anons but you encouraged and supported the people who did. You didn’t tell them to stop. Maybe you’re not brave enough to tell your friends to stop doing something shitty, I can understand that, but at the very least, you could have not engaged at all. But you chose to engage because you thought Heather’s frustration and discomfort with those messages was funny. 

you may not not think those anon messages were a big deal. Like I agree, it’s a stupid message, it sounded like filth a twelve year old would spout out once they realized what dirty words are. But your friends literally had to use sideblogs or make new blogs to even send them. She’d blocked them and turned anon off because she didn’t want to be harassed. She didn’t (and honestly I don’t either) want to be forced to engage with a ship she doesn’t like and finds triggering. I don’t either honestly. So do most of my friends. And your friends and you seem to have found it super amusing to literally shove it in her face. 

(I don’t actually think you were part of the suicide baiting anon messages--though I think it’s shady that your friend was laughing about them?)

I’m not really feeling too charitable towards you right now. You’ve been mocking and making fun of Heather for months now on your twitter. Generally, fine, say what you want, I’m pretty happy to ignore you, we both are. But it’s hard not to notice constant mocking and screencapping of our posts, and when that translates into actual harassment. Several of your friends consider sending anon messages to Heather and seeing how she reacts as entertainment. Do you know how it feels like when you desperately try to avoid a certain part of fandom that’s been attacking you for a year now? And when you really just want to blacklist things and block people who you KNOW are shit talking you on twitter constantly? And the haters still find a way to go around you blocking them and shove a ship you don’t like with bad associations in your face where you can’t avoid it? It feels really shitty and unsafe. 

[hearthouses]

on behalf of the Decent part of the sk fans, I'm really sorry you're being harassed and bullied like this, no one should ever say such awful things to anyone, specially over ships

First, I really want to thank you for coming forward–unanon even–to apologize, I really do appreciate and truly believe you mean well. I wanted to state that upfront because I feel like the rest of what I’m going to say is going to sound like I’m not appreciative (and I am, really–though I think a little of that should go @scottmccallisbeautiful, given she was most viciously attacked) and I don’t want that to cloud what I’m trying to convey because I really need to be listened to in this instance. 

I don’t really want or need apologies; I want actions. Like it may not be you or your friends personally acting in this way, but it’s people a part of your community that you’re affiliated with that are and will continue to do so unless someone speaks up. I can yell all I want, but I’m not going to be heard because I’m an outsider–and not only that, I’m essentially the target, a person that most of the shippers hate and would like to see me disappear completely. It needs to come from someone who shares the community with them, it has to be an “insider” which is what my post was calling for. Like I get it if you don’t think that’s your place or if you don’t feel like it, but if that’s how you react, then you have to see why apologies kind of feel hollow to me, you know? 

I am not saying this is all on you specifically–I’m publishing this so I can address others with similar feelings–and lord knows I’m not asking you to do battle for strangers. But honestly, little things help? Like if you recognize someone is being a bully and it’s within your power to tell them it’s not cool, then tell them that. Other things you could do: reblog my post. If you’re not comfortable with the aggressiveness of the tone (which is understandable! I was very angry in that post), then make your own--just let it be known you don’t tolerate what’s been happening and you’re calling for others to be intolerant of it as well. Like I don’t mean to lecture you–and again, I am trying to generalize this so it’s addressed to everyone who feels like you do–I just feel like while an apology is very nice, it’s ultimately not going to change anything. And things obviously need to change. I am only asking that people step it up a little from apologies to actively telling people it’s not okay to do what’s being done. 

Allowing the bad apples to go unchecked basically is allowing it to continue. That needs to be understood. I’ve done my best to try and avoid it–I block whenever possible, I don’t tag my negativity, I carefully word my posts so there’s no way these posts can be searched for, I try and be courteous to those who don’t feel the say way, and yet, my space is still being invaded, I’m still being harassed and others are still being brutally assaulted in the worst kind of emotional warfare. So basically I’m asking you to help where you can, if you’re really sorry and mean it, then I hope you will at least think about it. Thanks! 

[archivedblogposts]

not gonna lie it high key pisses me off when people stan seth and richie regardless of their behavior, but when kate starts robbing banks too suddenly she’s the worst scum of the earth. you guys are so transparent. please take your misogny elsewhere.

[bellamyblak]

people are actually harassing carlos coto because of a ship.....,damn I can't believe this fandom is filled with children.

[zaritarazi]

What do you think about the fact that Richie and Kate had like zero interactions?

it’s not even about richiekate for me, really, i’ve said before that i feel like richie was dramatically underused all season, and looking back on the season, like, 6-10 were pretty strong episodes, but 1-5 were a bit... lacking. like, it’s not just richie that took a hit, here. freddie’s character got literally shredded, and they overused burt over ximena, and it was just messy. season 2, in a lot of ways, was very much set up by season 1. there was a lot less groundwork for season 3, and it showed.

i still enjoyed it as a series, because i do love these characters and i’m able to put what i want into it. like, richie brought kate back from hell. that’s a big deal. what is also a big deal is that we don’t see him do anything in xibalba. and that’s just poor timing and pacing as far as the episode goes, and something that’s been prevalent throughout season 3. like, the plot really didn’t pull itself together until episode 8- and that’s way too late in a 10 episode season for the threads to connect.

there are things to be frustrated with this season, and there are things to appreciate. i really did like episode 10, and i loved the ending, and i’m going to let myself enjoy that and this show. the problem is that i personally have to fill in a lot of blanks for richard- and that’s not really a smart move, on the show’s part.

richie has constantly been sold as powerful, magical, brilliant, and autistic and mentally ill- but the show only remembers that last one when it’s convinient. otherwise there have been some really uncomfortable ableist moments throughout the series that i don’t love. and like, i get it, the show runners aren’t actually super clear about mental illness- but seth is mentally ill, too. and forgetting that as well as forgetting about richie undersells seth and undersells the series.

so that’s my take on it. i love sethkate, i love richiekate, i don’t love the pacing of this season, because it was very poorly spaced. that’s my thoughts~

[sheconjures]

i....... can’t believe what i just watched

that was the shittiest season finale we could have been given. holy fucking christ. here’s to those last minutes being an extended dream sequence while they’re all trapped in xibalba, because honestly, that would be preferable