#former incel

[former-incel]

ICE is full of incels, because incels are the perfect people to join ICE.

They're able to hurt people while thinking of themselves as the good guys.

They're unfazed by being disliked, because they believe that they'll be disliked no matter what they do.

They're full of hate and jumping at the chance to direct that hate at a socially acceptable target.

And when you understand that ICE is full of incels, it makes perfect sense why they'd murder someone for this. Nothing enrages an incel more than being told "don't touch her".

[theconcealedweapon]

When we were teenagers, I was an angry incel who believed that women were wronging me by rejecting me, and my oldest sister was openly feminist.

Now, I'm a social justice supporter, and my sister is a Trump supporter who believes that Christians are oppressed and that LGBT people are pedophiles.

[pinkypoodle]

I remember trying to relate to this dude who’s a red pill incel because, yeah, I won’t lie, I understand that feeling of struggling with depression, misery, and self hate too. I tried to meet him halfway and remind him he wasn’t alone, but wow, did that blow up in my face. 🤦🏾‍♀️

All those men want to do is compete for the title of biggest victim on a planet that has historically been built around men, then turn around and scream about how women “have it easier” and whatever other tired excuse they’ve convinced themselves of. They’re so consumed by bitterness that they refuse to step outside that miserable victimhood mentality.

After that conversation, I was like yeah, lmao. I’m never going out of my way to comfort a man who’s committed to wallowing in his own misery ever again. They can stay bitter and miserable if that’s the life they’re choosing. The male loneliness epidemic exists for a reason, and maybe some of them should take a hard look at why people are tired of dealing with that attitude. I learned my lesson there lmaoooo.

[beyond-mogai-pride-flags]

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ICTHO (ic2ho or ctho/c2ho; incel converted to homosexual): someone who chooses to convert behaviorally or ideologically into homosexualism; decidedly being homosexual besides going through regreted/uncomfy heterosexual experiences or after involving unwanted celibacy and heterosocial rejection of sexuoaffectional acts.

Other initials to use: inctho, i2h, icth, ictho, incthm, incthom, ic2ho, ic2hm; cthm, c2h, cth, cthom, ct2ho, ct2hm, ct2h.

It can be useful for or include, if wantedly, political lesbianism, queermaxxers, black-pinkpillers, MGTOW female-abstainers, among other groups, without not necessarily related to feminism or masculinism movements.

It can also be seen as a form of semicelibate among bisexuals and mspecs. Not essentially an intentional reorientation, as that would be about fluid sexuality, not a situational abstence or behavioral isolation of gamous/amorous relationships or erosous-romaus relations towards gender-different or sex-dissimilar individuals.

[former-incel]

Do you realize that you're allowed to like titties? Lesbian women regularly talk about how awesome titties are.

If a woman with big titties has a video showing you how to do something, you're allowed to watch it and think, "Wow! This is awesome! I get to learn how to do something AND look at titties!"

What you're not allowed to do is control her. You like when she chooses to show her titties on her own accord? Good for you. You pressure her to show her titties when she doesn't want to? That's a problem. The problem is the control, not the titties.

Also, if a woman has big titties and draws attention to them, then she's just a woman who has big titties and draws attention to them. It doesn't mean anything about her intelligence, morals, or promiscuity.

Here are some other examples of the wrong way to treat titties:

Approaching her in an unsafe situation in order to comment on her titties.

Interrupting her in order to comment on her titties.

Commenting on her titties after she already asked you to stop.

Allowing her titties to influence something that shouldn't be judged by your feelings of attraction (for example, if you're the judge of a competition and you choose her as the winner because you like her titties).

Believing that her titties justify whatever anyone does to her.

[former-incel]

A lot of people say that, "Boys grow up never being held accountable."

There is absolutely a lot of truth to this. But the solution is not to punish boys more frequently or more strictly, but more accurately.

Boys grow up being punished all the time, but for all the wrong reasons.

He does something unmanly? He's harshly punished in order to make him afraid to even consider doing it again. He hurts girls in order to feel manly? Boys will be boys. He disregards authority figures' demands? He's harshly punished in order to make him afraid to even consider doing it again. He disregards girls' boundaries? Boys will be boys.

When he lives in constant fear of the tiniest slight being harshly punished, while he's able to be abusive to girls and be punished less if at all, he'll easily learn that abusing girls must not be that bad.

When raising your children to have "respect", focus more on how they treat people who are vulnerable and who it's socially acceptable to disrespect, not on how they treat authorities and traditions.

[former-incel]

You're autistic, maybe without you even being aware. You spend a lot of time alone because you struggle to socialize.

Someone decides to do something "nice" and interact with you. Maybe they call you their friend. Maybe they flirt with you a little. Maybe they get a large group of people to show interest in you so you can feel popular.

You start to feel optimistic about this. You start to believe that maybe you're not as doomed to loneliness as you once thought.

You then play along in what seems like a completely reasonable way. Since they called you their friend, you assume that you're supposed to interact with them as often as they interact with their friends. Since they flirted with you, you assume that they like that type of interaction with you and you start initiating it.

They then start to find you annoying. They only wanted to feel like they're doing something nice, not to interact with you like a person who's company they actually enjoy and value.

But they don't tell you that they find you annoying, because they "don't want to hurt your feelings" or because they expect you to take a hint. They don't tell you that they find you annoying, but they do talk to their friends about how annoying you are.

Eventually, one of their friends tells you that you're annoying and to leave them alone. And you now have a reputation of being an obsessive creep.

You wonder where you went wrong. You start to believe that it's not possible for anyone to actually like you. You start to believe that anyone who likes you will eventually find you annoying. You start to wonder if everyone who claims to like you only sees you as a charity case.

[former-incel]

I'm your disabled classmate. You ask me to be your prom date. Or you get a bunch of people to flirt with me, include me, or otherwise show interest in me. You think you're doing something nice.

But all you're really doing is throwing off my ability to read signs of interest and making it seem like it's impossible for anyone to genuinely like me.

It feels good at first. I'm used to just going to school and going home, so it feels good to get invited somewhere. I'm used to being alone because no one likes me or because I don't know how to initiate interactions the correct way, so it feels good to have people approach me. I'm used to having zero chance of dating because everyone finds me weird or because I can't read signs of interest consistently enough to be able to pursue a partner, so it feels good to have someone attractive flirt with me or ask me to be their prom date.

But where does it go from there? Do I assume that you like me, try to continue the flirting or attempts at friendship, and have you see me as a stalker or creep? Or do I assume that you're just being nice and don't actually like me, stay away from you, and go right back to being hopelessly alone?

And think about how my family will treat me. If I complain to them about being disliked, they'll use your "charitable favor" as evidence that I'm just being negative. Then, when your act of "kindness" stops and I go back to being alone, they'll never again believe me when I desperately go out of my way to explain my struggles to them.

Stop treating me like a charity case. If you don't find me attractive or enjoyable to be around, then stay out of my way so I can find those who do. I deserve a chance to have people who genuinely want to be my friend or romantic partner. If that isn't you, that's fine. But don't act like you're doing something nice by pretending to like me.