high fiving op as another autistic dragonfucker hyperfixated on genshin!
might i suggest a proper gacha dragon: gehinnom from wuthering waves?
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high fiving op as another autistic dragonfucker hyperfixated on genshin!
might i suggest a proper gacha dragon: gehinnom from wuthering waves?
What the Hell?
Judaism does not have a specific doctrine about the afterlife, but it does have a mystical/Orthodox tradition of describing Gehinnom. Gehinnom is not hell, but originally a grave and in later times a sort of Purgatory where one is judged based on one's life's deeds, or rather, where one becomes fully aware of one's own shortcomings and negative actions during one's life.
The Kabbalah explains it as a "waiting room" (commonly translated as an "entry way") for all souls (not just the wicked). The overwhelming majority of rabbinic thought maintains that people are not in Gehinnom forever; the longest that one can be there is said to be 12 months, however, there has been the occasional noted exception. Some consider it a spiritual forge where the soul is purified for its eventual ascent to Olam Habah (heb. עולם הבא; lit. "The world to come", often viewed as analogous to heaven). This is also mentioned in the Kabbalah, where the soul is described as breaking, like the flame of a candle lighting another: the part of the soul that ascends being pure and the "unfinished" piece being reborn.
According to Jewish teachings, hell is not entirely physical; rather, it can be compared to a very intense feeling of shame. People are ashamed of their misdeeds and this constitutes suffering which makes up for the bad deeds. When one has so deviated from the will of God, one is said to be in Gehinnom. This is not meant to refer to some point in the future, but to the very present moment. The gates of teshuva (return) are said to be always open, and so one can align his will with that of God at any moment. Being out of alignment with God's will is itself a punishment according to the Torah.
Many scholars of Jewish mysticism, particularly of the Kabbalah, describe seven "compartments" or "habitations" of hell, just as they describe seven divisions of heaven. These divisions go by many different names, and the most frequently mentioned are as follows:
Sheol (Hebrew: שְׁאוֹל – "underworld", "Hades"; "grave")
Abaddon (Hebrew: אֲבַדּוֹן – "doom", "perdition")
Be'er Shachat (Hebrew: בְּאֵר שַׁחַת, Be'er Shachath – "pit of corruption")
Tit ha-Yaven (Hebrew: טִיט הַיָוֵן – "clinging mud")
Sha'are Mavet (Hebrew: שַׁעֲרֵי מָוֶת, Sha'arei Maveth – "gates of death")
Tzalmavet (Hebrew: צַלמָוֶת, Tsalmaveth – "shadow of death")
Gehinnom (Hebrew: גֵיהִנוֹם, Gehinnom – "valley of Hinnom"; "Tartarus", "Purgatory")
Besides those mentioned above, there also exist additional terms that have been often used to either refer to hell in general or to some region of the underworld:
Azazel (Hebrew: עֲזָאזֵל, compd. of ez עֵז: "goat" + azal אָזַל: "to go away" – "goat of departure", "scapegoat"; "entire removal", "damnation")
Dudael (Hebrew: דּוּדָאֵל – lit. "cauldron of God")
Tehom (Hebrew: תְהוֹם – "abyss"; "sea", "deep ocean")
Tophet (Hebrew: תֹּפֶת or תוֹפֶת, Topheth – "fire-place", "place of burning", "place to be spit upon"; "inferno")
Tzoah Rotachat (Hebrew: צוֹאָה רוֹתֵחַת, Tsoah Rothachath – "boiling excrement")
Mashchit (Hebrew: מַשְׁחִית, Mashchith – "destruction", "ruin")
Dumah (Hebrew: דוּמָה – "silence")
Neshiyyah (Hebrew: נְשִׁיָּה – "oblivion", "Limbo")
Bor Shaon (Hebrew: בּוֹר שָׁאוֹן – "cistern of sound")
Eretz Tachtit (Hebrew: אֶרֶץ תַּחְתִּית, Erets Tachtith – "lowest earth").
Masak Mavdil (Hebrew: מָסָך מַבְדִּ֔יל, Masak Mabdil – "dividing curtain")
Haguel (Ethiopic: ሀጉለ – "(place of) destruction", "loss", "waste")
Ikisat (Ethiopic: አክይስት – "serpents", "dragons"; "place of future punishment")
Maimonides declares in his 13 principles of faith that the hells of the rabbinic literature were pedagogically motivated inventions to encourage respect of the Torah commandments by mankind, which had been regarded as immature. Instead of being sent to hell, the souls of the wicked would actually get annihilated.
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My favorite way to describe my understanding of Gehinnom is “the mudroom of the afterlife.” Because a mudroom is where you take off your muddy shoes and clothes and can get hosed down so you don’t track mud and dirt into the rest of the house.
Getting hosed down in Gehinnom before entering the rest of the house that is Olam HaBa. Cozy.
Alas, Hell is real. Yes, that’s right. Or at least, it’s based off a real place — an ancient landfill to be exact. Although there is no mention of a “hell” in the Bible, it is based on an actual place. In Jerusalem, in the Valley of Hinnom, there is a large trash dump referred to in the Book of Matthew as “Gehenna”.
It was originally used by the ancient Israelites who sacrificed children and burnt their bodies to appease the pagan Canaanite god Molech. In Leviticus 18:20, God expressed his hatred of the false god Molech, and deemed the place unclean. Gehenna was eventually used as a landfill by the inhabitants of Jerusalem, where people took their trash to be burned. The place began to wreak havoc on daily life in Jerusalem. The smell of burning sewage, flesh, maggots and garbage wreaked absolute havoc on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, causing documented medical problems like nausea and breathing difficulty. Clearly, the place was unpleasant — frightening even — and thus it’s no surprise that Gehenna was used, and still is today, as a metaphor for the final place of punishment for the wicked. It was first used as a symbolic depiction of Hell in Mark 9:47. Gehenna was translated to Hell later, around 1200AD.
I wanted to ask a general question about Jewish beliefs about the afterlife, prompted by a conversation I had with my dad where he said Jewish people feel the need to do things on holidays out of fear of going to Gehinnom when they die. This surprised me because I'd always heard and interpreted Gehinnom more like therapy than punishment, and I'd never heard this emphasis on the afterlife before! I wonder if it's a generational split. In short, is his belief common? How do various groups differ?
I’ve never met anyone Jewish who follows mitzvot out of fear of Gehinnom, etc. (people follow them because we should or because we promised G-d or because it’s the best way to live). But I’ll move on to talking about the afterlife...
The most Jewish answer I’ve heard is “I’m not dead so I don’t know but maybe...” And there are lots of those maybes including no afterlife at all (we just sit in the ground and rot).The most important thing to know, is that the ideas about Gehinnom aren’t necessarily anything like the Christian conception of hell.
I don’t know how beleifs vary from group to group, but I do know several midrashes/theories. I’m going to list the ones I’ve heard of below, but would love it if folks add on what they know:
Gehinnom is like a washing machine. It ain’t pleasant for the socks, but they need it for a while in order to be ready for what’s to come.
When they die, everyone learns Torah from Moshe. If you are righteous, then you will naturally enjoy it, and if you’re wicked then you will naturally will hate this.
When they die, everyone is sent to a feast where they can’t bend their elbows. The righteous will feed each other, the selfish won’t help each other, so they’ll be unable to eat all the great food.
I didn’t do much research for this so a quick google might get you pretty far. (When I saw this ask pop up, I got so nervous I’d be putting another on the backburner, but thankfully I’ve been able to work off prior knowledge here.) I don’t know much about the afterlife in relation to the coming of the messiach, which is probably the next cool research rabbit hole to go down if you (or anyone on here) has got the time/energy.
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I regret not pulling for Roccia; she'll get a rerun soon enough.
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