#ghost chapter 20

[themratts]

baby is grumpy

[rotnitemare]

I do feel like there’s something important we haven’t been shown yet when it comes to Marika’s relationship with Cardi.

Yes, obviously, we haven’t seen much of them together. But I’m interested in the sheer dissonance in how Marika speaks to Cardi in the chapters VS the comics.

In the chapters (on the surface, at least), we’re given the impression of a sweet, doting mum who quite possibly spoils her son. She gushes about him to the new colleague, calling him her little boy. “Cardi – I always called him Cardi.” And she puts on this baby-like voice when referring to their familial relation, or when initially addressing him.

And then you’ve got the comics, where she seems initially excited to meet Cardi but later on, seems different. Distant. Strict. Mysterious in ways that frustrate Cardi to no end, and with barely even a hint at sweetness.

👇 This 👇 doesn’t feel like a one-off interaction to me.

What is Mom doing? Where is she going? When will she return? It seems these are things Cardi is forever being left out of, and it chafes. He’s scared.

Where’s the baby-talking? Where’s the sweet, doting mother she implied herself to be to Judith? Her facial expressions are strict or disinterested even when reassuring Cardi.

And then there’s the subtler side of the chapters. Where you realise Marika is spilling Cardi’s private information to complete strangers. Where she’s baby-talking the boss in front of his employees. Where she’s seemingly trying to make an executive decision she already knows Cardi, her boss, has made the opposite choice on (the covers EP – more on that later). Where after seeing Cardi stumble on boxes, Marika begins to look and sound fed up – and becomes progressively more so throughout their conversation.

When she goes to leave Frater’s office (“So, we go”), it’s with the attitude of someone who never wanted to be there to begin with. Someone who’s been patiently waiting for a gap in the ramblings to allow her an exit, but also doesn’t care about the rambler’s feelings enough to disguise that.

(I couldn’t get a good shot of the expression when Cardi stumbles on the boxes because it happens too quickly and just came out as a blur 😭)

The very first time Cardi called Sister “Mom” was after months of being alone with Marika, the woman he’d known as “Mom” from childhood (but has never addressed as “Mom” on-screen). My gut says that means something. There’s something bigger going on here.

I really want to see what went wrong with these two. But, y’know, months from now. I’d like to finish my WIP before its lore undoubtedly becomes non-canon, please. 🥺

Obviously, I have my own headcanons that I use for fics, but they’re not relevant here because I’m discussing canon material only.

Also: What happened to get Marika, who adopted Sister as her sister, to start thinking of Sister as her friend instead?

Seriously, there’s something going on here. More than just the mess of a parent-child relationship getting flipped into a boss-employee relationship where the child is the boss. More than just Cardi being prickly due to his V-hate. There’s something else.

BUT THERE’S MORE

Because nothing can ever be simple, can it?

In Chapter 24, Marika’s calling for something which – from the way Cardi phrases things – she knows Cardi wants the opposite of. And until Cardi returns to his office, this seems to be the uncontested truth.

But then Cardi returns to his office, and...

These two were setting Cardi up to assert himself all along!

So, Marika does care about Cardi. She wasn’t just putting on airs when she was talking to Judith about their relationship. But there’s also something more complicated going on in the background, which is as-yet undisclosed.

Well, at least something got cleared up lol

(I’m working on your ask btw, Nonny 💜 Actually, you probably put this post in my head by getting me to think about children.)

[preqvelle]

V, fucking V ....grrr

[inkstainedrat]

[littlemissemeritus]

this meme but with copia since he literally fucking ripped the 'v' off his keyboard

[writingjourney]

I'm sure you've already been asked this a bazillion times, so feel free to ignore this but....

What are your thoughts about Frater asking Judith if she can paint? We know Tobias doesn't do anything by accident, so do we think it's going to be relevant at some point, or was it just a IKNBS shout out for funsies?

Im just dying to know what your reaction was.

haha well!! i don't think i have been asked before. it's funny because i didn't see the chapter as it came out. that day i was at uni teaching all afternoon, walked to my car afterwards and had like four message from friends along the lines of "IKNBS REAL!!!" on my phone 😭

i had to drive home before i could watch it and obviously i knew that was not a real references but it still had me gagged haha. there was even someone in the comments who said "they're out here reading the fanfics" and a bunch of people talking about IKNBS under it which was kind of surreal. i never feel like this fic is just out there in the open. it feels so intimate to me i forget it's a public work and not just something i do with my friends.

anyway, it is NOT an IKNBS reference at all. he meant to ask if judith knew how to use microsoft paint because right after they changed their social media banners to this one (i took a screenshot back then):

so... it was just copia showing his age and doing a little hater social media stunt, really :DD

[leetaylatuparitaulus]

Since Copia has that crazy beef with Perpetua, "Perfect Celebrity" fits him now too-

[sister-praetoria]

Ok so got jumpscared by ch20 but thoughts!!!!

- Judith!!! She’s beautiful and I love her

- I love the idea that the office workers (maybe secular workers?? Or just admin staff) wear sharp black suits with the pins!! Looks so good

- MARIKA PSALTARIAN???? Incredible I’ve had her for 5 mins and I love her you know she runs that place

- also the ministry have an c.18th century building is rlly interesting and is giving the historian in me much foood for thought about the development of the ministry

- C. My darling frater, his lil desk with the monitor and the plushia and the sofa. I love himb.

Altogether, quite the lore drop but the lore gremlin in me is being FED by all this new potential stuff about the ministry