Apr 28
It's been a while since I drew the whole family together.
Gyrf is holding their daughter Aryn and Shimy is holding their son Esteban.
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It's been a while since I drew the whole family together.
Gyrf is holding their daughter Aryn and Shimy is holding their son Esteban.
I like to imagine them eternally happy
Legendaires Nation, how are we feeling in 2026? Are we still there?
Yapping + process pictures below:
Lequel mérite le titre de Mister Tumblr ? (Propagande juste en dessous)
Gryfenfer (Les Légendaires)
Papyrus (Papyrus)
Propagande Gryf :
homme-felin avec griffes et queue et fourrure, stretege a la loyauté sans faille, il a ete en servitude dans un cirque avec moult abus et s'en est enfuit et est devenu stylé au point de rejoindre le groupe de defenseurs de l'humanité le plus celebre - ET C'EST UN HOMME FELIN AVEC FOURRURE ET GRIFFES
En plus il decouvre au bout de 256 tomes environ qu'il est prince de son peuple qu'on pensait perdu - ET SON PEUPLE A DES PHASES DE RAGES INCONTROLÉES ce que je trouve sexy ✌️ Il a une relation on/off avec une elfe extremement puissante, puis avec la fille d'un dieu mechant ancestral, et il essaye jamais de les controler ni de faire genre il estmeilleur - il est justz la enmode i love my tall powerful wife.
C'est genre toute la masculinité clichée sans les cotés toxiques. Also c'es le moins grand de la troupe #ShortKing
Propagande Papyrus : il a la classe et il fut l,introduction à l,Égypte Antique de nombre d,entre nous <3
Ok no I’m pissed
gryf was told his entire life he was nothing more than a weapon and then he meets this girl who was literally MADE to be a weapon ,
Like , he was the only one who actively gave her a chance even after her betrayal . he sees himself in her and knows how hard it is to step up from someone who hurt you . If someone who was barely born was considered unredeemable then what did it mean from a murder machine like him <- kinda mental
They should be trauma buddies not a part of a love triangle that ruins his , hers and shimy character
Rewriting Romance in Les Légendaires
Here's a link to the translated version if you only speak French: https://www.tumblr.com/igottakeeponmoving/792967811682172928/traduction-fran%C3%A7aise-de-mon-pr%C3%A9c%C3%A9dent-billet?source=share
Disclaimer: This is all in good fun, and is merely a way for me to get this all out of my head before Brain stops Braining.
I once said that Patrick Sobral can't write a romantic subplot to save his life, and that I really wished he'd stop trying to shoehorn them where they're not needed. A bit of pondering has led me to the conclusion that there is, in fact, potential for good romances among Sobral's six leads; the combinations he chose to put them in just kind of suck. Of course, these are romantic subplots featured in a story that is not first and foremost a romance, so of course you don't get a whole lot of reason for why these people are attracted to each other, but one can only suspend one's disbelief for so long when taking a look at the character dynamics. The canon pairings are as follows:
Danaël/Jadina: Classic Knight/Princess setup, he rescued her when she was kidnapped during an escort mission and they ran away together and founded the Legendaries. You don't watch these two fall in love, you are given the understanding that they already are in love, but despite their being adults who have known each other for a long time, Danaël and Jadina suffer from a case of what Tv Tropes refers to as Twice Shy. There is demonstrably nothing actually standing in the way of their being together, not even Jadina's royal title given that her parents banished her, and definitely not her erstwhile fiancé prince Halan, in whom Jadina makes it pretty clear that she has approximately zero interest. Not offensive, but relatively cliché and all in all pretty bland and predictable.
Razzia/Tenebris: Former co-Dragons to the villain, he dumped her when he realized they were actually the baddies and joined the Legendaries. This is a complete wish fulfillment fantasy; A not conventionally attractive dude has no indication of a love interest until it turns out that he has a beautiful, murderously devoted ex-girlfriend who even after all these years is still very much in love with him? Again, there is no buildup to them falling in love because they somehow already are, to the point where Tenebris's entire reason for deciding that she wants to be on the "good" side is that she is still in love with "Korbo" (Razzia's villain name), who on his end hasn't actually done anything to inspire this decision, would much rather she didn't join the team and tells her to fuck off every time she calls him Korbo. Their romance doesn't do it for me because she's in love with who he used to be, and isn't given nearly enough time to get to know this new version of him before they get back together, while he on his part associates her with lies, betrayal and the trauma of losing his family to her father's forces. Knowing this, how could they ever pick up where they left off?
Gryf/Shimy: Snarky beastman with a Past meets proud elf who can merge with the four elements. Is meant to be your run-of-the-mill bickering old married couple, is in fact an absolute dumpster fire that never should have happened. Gryf and Shimy don't appear to respect one another at all, and consequently treat each other like absolute crap, to the point where neither of them comes out of it looking better than the other. Gryf appears to be utterly allergic to communicating with Shimy to the point where he keeps her in the dark about a lot of things and generally treats her like she's unworthy of his trust, or like she's fragile, and winds up cheating on her with another girl who he also treats like crap despite the fact that said girl is, ironically, way more fragile than he believes Shimy to be (#ShunDayDeservedBetter). Shimy on her part assumes the worst of Gryf on principle and reacts to any perceived or legitimate slight by physically abusing him, and we the audience are meant to find this funny because Shimy is a woman and Gryf is a man. This isn't made any better by the fact that there is a significant power imbalance between the two: what can Gryf's claws do when Shimy can literally bend the elements to her will, and why would anyone want to be with someone who puts the fear of God in them? Gryf is frequently referred to as "the bravest of the Legendaries" and yet somehow, dealing with Shimy is the one area where this does not apply. There just came a point where I really wished these two would break up for good and try their hand at being friends again.
Now. Before anyone makes any assumptions, I should mention that I am an aroace lesbian who does not actually ship any ships from Les Légendaires. Teenage me was an avid fan and used to think this was quality writing, and having grown up and drawn my own conclusions on Sobral since then, I think it highly unlikely that he would have made any of his main pairings anything other than heterosexual, given that Sobral has already been known to use les yay as a joke and the only same-sex pairing seen in his works is a side couple, two women at that, who get lecherously spied on by Gryf because Sobral apparently couldn't just Not Make It Weird.
Knowing this, here are the combinations that I propose: Gryf/Jadina, Razzia/Shimy and Danaël/Tenebris.
Gryf/Jadina: Power couple as fuck. Gryf and Jadina respect and support each other so goddamn much that no disagreement could ever make their bond any less strong, they are the Best Friends to ever Best Friend (no shade to Gryf's canon best friend, Danaël). Their upbringings are diametrically opposed, she a princess and he a gladiator, and they should by all rights have nothing in common, but they share a common experience of being denied their very freedom because of (granted, very, very different) circumstances beyond their control. Jadina will rightfully call Gryf out on his nonsense but never in a way that is meant to make him feel like an idiot, and she trusts him so much that he was initially the only other Legendary she apparently confided in about her banishment; Gryf not only doesn't treat Jadina like she's made of glass (which is how he treats Shimy) but listens to her, and has proven again and again that he will follow her to hell and back - remember his heartbroken rage when he thought Jadina had been killed and replaced by an impostor? These two also have a not-insignificant recurring Beauty and the Beast motif which I love, and which Gryf himself lampshades when he rescues Jadina from her execution in book 14. As a bonus, I personally headcanon Gryf as bi, and in my head his type is smart, kind-hearted and ludicrously powerful mages with dark hair, brown skin and light-colored eyes (Jadina and Elysio have more than a few similarities; I see you, Gryf). Also, they're both royals; potential for a political alliance meant to get the Jaguarians out of the shadows? Maybe that's too convoluted.
Razzia/Shimy: Fun fact, these two were originally going to be a canon pairing before Sobral realized that Gryf/Shimy was more popular with the fans (arguably a horrible reason to make a ship sail). Shimy has a more easy rapport with Razzia and shows him more genuine care than to any of the others, though she also enjoys teasing him in earlier books and generally seems to find him quite endearing. Razzia conversely thinks the world of Shimy and always lends her an ear if she needs to talk while also respecting her boundaries, and goodness knows what a calming influence he has on her. It bears noting that the pair of them are the muscle component of the Legendaries, he in the literal sense while she can magically enhance herself with rocks, I can totally picture them working out together. Also, the fact that the two of them have more personal beef with Darkhell than any of their comrades means that they get each other in a way that the others might not - yes, Jadina was a frequent target of Darkhell's, but the Eagle Staff is what he actually wanted; Shimy was full-on tortured, and that's not even getting into what went down with Anathos. All of that is still pretty fresh and even once Anathos is gone, Shimy understandably still has a lot of residual anger. This is probably partly the reason why she lashes out at Gryf so often and so violently, but he isn't really in any position to truly be there for her given that he's currently going through his own shit. Razzia, on the other hand? He's no stranger to how Shimy feels, but his emotional wounds are not as fresh, in fact they've pretty much scarred at this point.
Danaël/Tenebris: Such a missed opportunity. Give me more Enemies to Lovers that is actually Enemies to Lovers and where the girl is the "evil" one. I'm thinking that one scene from Princess Mononoke, you know the one: "I'll cut your throat! That'll shut you up/You're beautiful". Danaël and Tenebris are shown to respect each other but are also fundamentally opposed in their philosophies. They challenge and question one another in a relatively professional and level-headed manner, and I could see a mutual intrigue blooming into admiration as each attempts to work the other out. Danaël's unrelenting idealism would give Tenebris the push she needs to actually question her view of the world, which would give her a real, believable redemption arc that wouldn't come out of nowhere - she was a one-off henchwoman who got dealt with pretty quickly, honestly what was there to redeem - or indeed be boiled down to Doing It For Love. Danaël on the other hand could come to realize the more he interacts with Tenebris that it's not all black and white, that no one is born evil and that Tenebris was just as much shaped by her environment as he was by his own. Speaking of which, they actually have more in common than they think since they both grew up motherless, have a shared military past that each ended up defecting from (she ranked higher than he did though) and they also have been known to go to extremes for the sake of the Greater Good - like for instance Danaël deciding to have Shimy killed to keep Anathos from coming back, or Tenebris justifying the sack of Barabath as a necessary sacrifice for the unifying of Alysia in one of Razzia's flashbacks. As a nice final touch, together they make up the blade component of the team. Sparring date, anyone?
One last disclaimer: My reshuffling of the pairings does not, in my mind, erase the original pairings, because it's common knowledge that you can love more than one person in your lifetime. It also always bugged me that Sobral's heroes were allowed to move on to different partners and even express attraction to other women while his heroines stayed stuck on the same person book after book for no apparent reason. I can see Danaël and Jadina having a small adrenaline-fueled attraction when they meet that later becomes a real friendship as they get to know each other better, Gryf and Shimy letting the sexual tension fizzle out once they realize their personalities just don't mesh well (preferably without dragging poor Shun-Day into it, honestly Gryf could not have picked a worse person to needlessly jerk around), and Razzia and Tenebris getting closure and moving on from their past.
Your opinion on gryf
specifically his relationship with Kel-Cha and his team
OHHH thank you for asking. I apologize for this TRULY taking forever, I have lots to say lol
Gryf is My Guy Of All Time. He's quite possibly one of my favorite fictional characters ever. Probably kickstarted my obsession with hurt/comfort at a young age because he deserves it more than anyone.
I just think... a character who goes through so fucking much and still is good, still cares about others, still wants to make the world better. I said in one of my fics that he's probably the best of them, and while that was through Jadina's POV I still stand by it. He's rough around the edges, but I think he's still just... good.
His relationship with Kel-Cha is so fascinating. Obviously it was the focus of one of my fics, but I imagine it would just be... so difficult. Kel-Cha spent all this time waiting for a specific person who is not Gryf. Gryf spent all this time waiting to fill a hole that he can't. They both want to be what the other wants and needs, but they can't quite manage it. I think over time they'd be able to find something new and less yearning for what they can't have.
I think the dynamics between him and his team are super different for each member of course. He and Danaël are obviously best friends, but I think that Gryf also idolizes him a lot. He looks up to him in a way that isn't entirely accurate to some of Danaël's nastier habits.
He and Jadina are just... special to me. I think they're truly close in a way some of the others aren't. They love each other so dearly. It's a friendship born of acknowledgement that they could not be more different in every way that counts.
I've discussed this before but I think his and Shimy's relationship is a bit underdeveloped in canon. I Could like it but mostly it's just not really for me. I think their relationship in canon kinda does a disservice to the both of them.
I honestly haven't thought too much about him and Ténébris OR him and Razzia which is a shame! Their dynamic is fascinating! I think he's more forgiving than some of the other members of the group, in part just because of a lack of bad blood and also just because he doesn't really see the point in grudges.
I think about him all the time, thank you again for asking :)))