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[onionjulius]

(1) I am reading Good and Mad by Rebecca Traister and it reminds me of your astute analysis of Cersei’s anger. “Women’s anger will be—as it has long been—cast as ugly, unappealing, dangerous, something to be shut down or jeered. But these are all strategies that have long been used to get people, including women themselves, to look away from, disregard, and suppress one of the great drivers of social upheaval and political change in this country: their own fury."

(2) I don’t think Martin is purposely doing it as a strategy, but his blind spot is disappointing nevertheless. He is often applauded for subverting and deconstructing tropes left and right, but he could not find it in himself to subvert or deconstruct the angry woman trope?

I think that would require him to be aware of it, and he may not have been. Like, as much as men try to educate themselves on female experiences within patriarchy there are probably some things that women know better just because they actually did experience things. I might be wrong, but the whole feeling of being boxed in by the “angry woman” label is not quite as old an archetype as some Martin works with. I don’t even know if it’s right to call it a trope, though it’s a real-life stereotype that real-life women experience.

Now, in fairness I do want to say that while some fans may see Cersei’s walk of shame as her “come-uppance” I do not think Martin intended it to be that way. Society visits oppression unto Cersei and she visits it upon others. It happens, it’s realistic. It’s just that there’s no righteous way to channel Cersei’s anger when identifying with her because that’s not what Cersei the character is for, and that kind of reminds some readers – me, at least – about the frustration felt when feeling anger and then also feeling boxed in by it.

If there was some kind of plot or subplot where angry woman band together to force concessions from the patriarchy, or at least score some kind of win, that might have helped, at least it’s the kind of plot I’d be very interested in writing. GRRM doesn’t have that among his priorities, and I can’t say that’s objectively Wrong. It’s like, he started going down a road and it was interesting but he stopped before I would have stopped, because maybe it’s more interesting to me than him, because it’s cathartic for me, I live similar experiences.

I would rather he have found a way around this. I am still not sure just how big an “error” I think it is, but for people who identify with the righteous part of Cersei’s anger, I totally get why it’s difficult. I have felt this way with other characters of Martin’s, that he cared, but just not as much as I would have. I have felt that way about Cersei herself. It behooves me, and perhaps this will help you too, to remember that as much as I enjoy ASOIAF, it’s not the only series out there that’s worth my time and attention. I happen to be a bit stuck on ASOIAF, but I won’t be forever, and I will always regret that something that got t be such a cultural phenomenon disappointed me in a few ways, and a fandom that’s in many ways so fun to be in alienated me in a few ways. But there’s more out there, other authors who probably will be more in tune with these kinds of things.

(I am still working my feelings out through meta, fic and art and whatnot. It’s a process. Sometimes these characters mean so much to us!)

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[jeneelestrange]

So my Kindle took my enjoyment of fantasy and erotica, put them together, and for once didn't recommend something ridiculous like dick wizards. I saw that the reviews and ratings for this one was unusually high, so I bought it. HOLY SHIT. I seriously stayed up till dawn on Saturday reading "Master of Crows" by Grave Draven et al. One of my new favorite books.  What I really like, and practically ALL books have a problem of this, is it didn't make their main characters unbelievably pretty while also saying "no but really they're totally uggo ya'll". If I have to see one more girl who cries because she has a perfect hourglass figure instead of being a stick and having shining red tresses instead of blonde, I'm going to burn everything. In too many books it's like I'm watching a movie with perfectly made up actors instead of real everyday people. It takes me out of the story something fierce. But NONE of that shit. And OMG, is that ACTUAL ETHNIC FEATURES I SPY? And a not totally Weternized fantasy? YEEEEEESSSSS! Silhara of Neith is a wiry brown asshole with a hooked nose. Martise of Asher has mousy brown hair and is generally average to the point of being drab and unnoticeable, which makes her the perfect spy. The house servant Gurm is a mute who uses sign language to call you an asshole. Their characterizations are wonderful--the author doesn't seem afraid to go too far or make mistakes like some authors do. But they also don't act like morons for no reason either. And the reason they can't just immediately bone the shit out of each other is fucking real. It's not some contrived "i'm not good enough for him/her it would be shameful" bullshit. Legit, they could fucking die. And the actual plot is incredibly engaging, not just a side-note to justify threading a bunch of scenes with unresolved sexual tension together, which is usually what happens when you combine erotica with something else. And I am picky as shit with fantasy. I love the idea of fantasy, but really, I can count the books that I think have pulled it off well on one hand. The world is believable, fresh, and complex enough.

When this book ended, I wanted to cry. It's unfair. Grace Draven only has a couple of books and none of them seem like they'd be as cool as this one. FUCKING FUCK THIS BOOK

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I feel like D&D had Petyr say "your sister" instead of "only Cat' just to fuck with us.