#heroes guild

[prettypinkroseofpatience]

dear old heroes’ guild

[yourhealthislow]

Whisper and the Hero of Oakvale were never friends and you can fight me on that.

Maybe Whisper viewed their relationship as friends and as them having a friendly rivalry, but I doubt the HoO viewed her the same way.

Every interaction with her involves her projecting her own insecurities onto him, mocking him, and trying to one up him. Even when she's trying to be playful it can come off as a thinly veiled insult.

The HoO grew up in the Guild being forced to shove down his grief and be roommates with someone who views him as competition instead of a companion.

Growing up together, training together, taking meals together does not make anyone friends.

And their lack of friendship, in my opinion, is truly shown by how rarely Whisper on his side.

Throughout the game, everything has to be a competition to her, with her consistently instigating because she can't get over the fact that she's insecure, that her brother is why she feels inadequate, not the HoO.

I firmly believe that if they were true friends, she would have left him be and tried to be a great Hero WITH him, not stand against him so often. If they were friends she would have treated him better than she did.

[jesse-martin-126]

The Heroes Guild from the first Fable game

[bl00k182]

me, when that Banshee in Wraithmarsh keeps fucking respawning when I travel there

[yourhealthislow]

The Hero of Oakvale: Headcanons and Theories

To preface, a lot of this post is based on my ideas and personal thoughts. However, I love friendly discussion, so feel free to share ideas!

Now, to my recollection, the Hero of Oakvale (HoO for ease) is one of the view protagonists we see have his trauma brought up in a realistic way, specifically in the flashback when you return to Oakvale.

He sees the woman who owned Rosie, hears her speaking... And suddenly she's the little girl she was the day the bandits attacked. The village is burning, he's hearing screams, and he's panicking.

His flashback, while quick, is intense and you get a sense that the attack effects him far more in adulthood than is fully explored.

Though, personally, I think story wise, the HoO is used to suppressing his grief. He had to. Maze, Weaver... Every adult he met that night and after failed him. He wasn't allowed to grieve properly or in his own time. So, he used his training as an outlet, and a way to bury his pain and his suffering. We don't explore his grief more because by then, even he struggles to cope with it.

He lost everything at once, his family, his neighbors, his friends, his home... And not one person let him grieve in full.

While, mechanically speaking, having the HoO speak might have caused issues, I think in universe, he was just a quiet kid. A kid who spoke really only at home. But as an adult? I think he's 98.75% mute by choice. (The percent based on the occasional word said during emotes.)

I think he got used to feeling alone and unable to speak about his pain that he just... Stopped talking. He stopped trying to communicate verbally. I headcanon that he uses gestures and sign language where he can, and that the emotes and actions are him trying to communicate without having to talk.

And I imagine him falling for someone, trying to woo them, and succeeding despite rarely saying a word. I imagine his spouse being sad he doesn't talk, but them being even sadder to see the far away, dead eyed look he gets seeing the fireplace going.

When they move to Oakvale (I know you can't move spouses in Fable 1 but I headcanon he would be married once and live in his old home in Oakvale), his spouse finds him sitting on the step, dozing like he had as a child. They see him by the barns, watching chickens...

And Oakvale being the one place they hear him speak most. He tells them about his childhood in a soft, unused voice. He avoids discussing Theresa, Brom, and Scarlett... Avoids even their names.

As he ages, and the more bs he has to deal with, the more cynical the HoO becomes.

Hes still kind and helpful, but Whisper's taunts are grating and hurtful. Thunder's attitude is infuriating. Weaver's reminders are annoying at best.

He loves his big sister and would die for her. She is everything to him when he finds her again. But as she gives him graver and graver news and prophecies, he finds seeing her anxiety inducing.

Realistically, the HoO is an extremely broken and traumatized person. Someone who never really gets a happy end.

His own teacher betrays him. Someone he thought cared about him, but only wanted to use him. Maze was a paternal figure to him, and Maze tried to kill him. I always thought that after that, the HoO had a hard time trusting people again, even those close to him, to the point of isolating himself to some extent...

Tl;Dr: The Hero of Oakvale is broken, traumatized, and was betrayed and lied to repeatedly. He was never allowed peace or space to grieve. He was never really given much choice, and he's just trying his best to be okay and help others.

[yourhealthislow]

🔮Maze🔮

[yourhealthislow]

I just wanna say that Maze being a twist villain really fuckin crushed me man.

Like...

No, he wasn't a warm or kind person at all, and his saving CC wasn't altruistic in the slightest, but before learning all that?

I loved Maze. I wanted him to be good, and his back story kills me inside.

Guy lost his family as a kid then was taken in by Jack of Blades. His actions were a desperate attempt to be free of Jack's control, as he felt obligated to help his rescuer.

And I cared so much. I had thought his harshness was kinda tough love in a way, and maybe it was. But the betrayal CC feels is what I felt, and it was the first time I felt truly hurt by something in a game.

Maze's betrayal fuckin hurts to this day,bro like...

[yourhealthislow]

What happened to the Heroes Guild will always break my heart. Civilians attacked it, burned it down because they felt wronged by the Heroes of that period. It seems that instead of trying to solve the issue, they simply murdered dozens of Heroes and burned the Guild to the ground. And this breaks my heart because I think of the Hero of Oakvale's reaction. I think of how it was his home after he'd lost everything, how the people there became his family. I think of how he'd be crushed to watch another home be lost in a blaze. The Heroes Guild was a place I always felt attached to. It was beautiful and peaceful. It was homey. To have it be destroyed breaks my heart.