Peggy: [joining him in front of a painting] What do you think?
Daniel Holden: What do I think? Well, I think I have looked at this painting for so long in a in a book that somehow my brain has trivialized it. And, uh, now as I stand here in front of the real thing, I feel, if anything, disappointment.
Peggy: Oh, that's too bad.
Daniel Holden: Well, not at the painting itself. More at my brain, I guess.
Peggy: I think the brain's afraid of being in a state of constant wonder. It's for safety reasons or something.
Daniel Holden: I suppose it's inevitable.
Peggy: Usually by the time we're four.
Daniel Holden: Then there's the the issue of great expectations.
Peggy: Something the brain doesn't seem the least bit interested in protecting us from.
Daniel Holden: [chuckles] No.
Peggy: Well, I think we should reinstate wonder, banish expectation.
Daniel Holden: I concur.
