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rewatching pit babe season 1 and
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incoming: incomprehensible thoughts about charlie and jeff in ep 7
well. here we are.
my thoughts have been simmering for the past few episodes and now they're boiling over. before we get to today's torment and misery, some highlights that have contributed to our present situation:
charlie taking jeff to the lab, hearing the results and declaring that losing Jeff is not an option. In any situation.
since they've found this family and their place in it, charlie has been able to take on the older brother role in every way - particularly in teasing him and being the person jeff goes to advice
jeff coming to the realisation that, as his powers get more and more out of control, he needs to isolate himself again. especially from the people he loves the most. it was bad enough growing up and seeing their pain, he doesn't want to know what it's like to feel it. and charlie has to stand by and watch his little brother close himself off again, after coming into his own.
when charlie leaves babe after... the incident... jeff tries to be the voice of reason. he knows it rarely ends with charlie listening to him, but he tries his best. charlie also has the sweetest little 'whose little brother are you???' moment and it just cements that if anything, they've become even closer now that everything's behind them (sigh)
(in the process of collecting these screenshots i was reminded that i didn't make any posts about them from eps 2-6 because i was too damn sad)
so now today. episode 7. endless suffering and pain. let's do this.
we've seen the tensions between them rise: jeff has been trying to keep charlie grounded, despite everything going on. but jeff's powers rapidly spiraling out of control has charlie on edge - he's spent years of his life protecting him, and he's not about to lose him, not when he's finally happy. but they're also in a place where they're equals: they share advice (solicited or not), they support each other, and they help each other make hard decisions. or at least, they did until the end of this episode.
at the head of the episode, we've got charlie quitting x-hunter to focus on the drug (allegedly). already we can see guilt weighing heavily on jeff here - he knows that he's a big part of charlie's focus on the lab, and he also knows what a blow this will be to alan.
jeff's not thrilled about this choice, and he takes it directly to charlie, who is kind of stunned, like he doesn't expect jeff to push back so openly. but charlie is also not here for the dramatics.
he's seeing the bigger picture, perhaps too much. he's focused on minimising the circle around him, and trying to ignore the damage that leaves behind. only this leads to charlie having to unravel his motives to distract jeff from alan's heartbreak.
and jeff is jumping on these revelations immediately. he sees the weight of what charlie has decided to shoulder alone, and you can physically see him slump at the realisation that they haven't escaped anything, and that everyone they love is still at risk.
and god, jeff sees right through charlie. he knows immediately that with the increased risk to himself, to x-hunter and especially to babe, there's no way that charlie is going to approach this normally - they faked his death the last time this happened, and jeff was the one who had to pick up the pieces. he tries so hard to break through to charlie, that hey, maybe sacrificing yourself again isn't the best option. but charlie barely hears him. he's so set in his mission to let himself be destroyed in place of his loved ones, that most of what jeff says falls on deaf ears. it's enough though, that it does let babe in later, just a little.
enough time has passed since jeff's last conversation with charlie to know that he clearly hasn't spoken to babe, and jeff has had enough facing all this alone. he watched babe grieve his brother once, and he won't do it again. this doesn't mean he'll throw charlie under the bus, however, because he frames it as something he saw in a vision, rather than a secret that charlie has been keeping alone. he knows that it'll take all of them combined to keep charlie from doing something incredibly stupid. alas...
at the hospital, charlie is all questions at first. he wants to know what's happened, how the visions have progressed, but the longer he looks at jeff, the longer the silence lasts, the clearer it becomes that things are so fucking wrong. jeff isn't seeing him, isn't hearing him; he's stuck in his vision. he's visibly shattered when he realises that despite being awake, jeff is barely in the room with them. it's impossible for him to accept the version of his little brother in front of him. he can't leave him like this.
jeff's condition cracks something in charlie. usually he's the first to offer solutions, to keep the ball rolling and make sure they have a goal. but he can't do that. alan's trying to be optimistic, asking about the drug, putting his faith in charlie. but charlie knows they're not close. not close enough to help jeff. he can't even stand and face them - he sits, barely looking at them.
every second that charlie spends listening to alan talking about sacrificing himself to protect jeff and x-hunter breaks him down further. he knows that jeff would hate that and you can see the exact moment he makes his choice. charlie cannot sit idly by, letting his loved ones suffer, when there's something he can do about it, regardless of what it will cost him.
truly it was sick of them to start this sequence focusing on charlie's hands. this is the first time we've seen him be so intentional with his powers, seen him carry himself with the weight of what his touch can do (and oh, isn't that a fun and heartbreaking parallel with jeff). we also get this shot of charlie looking over jeff in his hospital bed. charlie has surely seen jeff in vulnerable positions before, but this is the first time the younger man has been truly helpless. and charlie has realised that he can help.
he hesitates, because he knows that jeff (rightly) would be pissed about him doing this. he's never used his power on jeff, because jeff explicitly asked him not to. but charlie can't ask jeff for permission right now, and he needs to act, needs to help him. so he takes jeff's power without consent.
jeff, of course, wakes up to this violation of his bodily autonomy. he's horrified by what charlie is doing - both because he's taking the choice away from jeff, but for what it'll mean for charlie. they've always talked it through before, even if charlie doesn't listen. they've been partners, equals, but charlie sacrificing himself in this moment is almost a betrayal of that. charlie is desperate to save his brother, but he forgets that jeff feels the same way. charlie is stripping them both of the chance to face this together. (but god, that shot of their hands together, clinging to each other for all the wrong reasons)
we're left with this shot of our brothers out cold, senses overwhelmed by what's just happened to them. their worlds are going to be irrevocably changed when they wake.
also shout out to jeff's bracelet on the bedside table which literally brought tears to my eyes when i spotted it.
AlanJeff: What Love Looks Like in the Aftermath, Pitbabe S2, Ep. 10.
Let's talk about Alan and Jeff, because this week's episode has left me absolutely gutted. Since Season 1, I've been fascinated by the way they touch, so much so that I created a dedicated gifset to most intimate hand touchings. But something this whole season, it almost felt like the dynamic of their touches had shifted, even though I really couldn't put my finger on it. But this latest episode really made it apparent. Even though Alan slightly pushed Jeff, it felt emotionally seismic as if pointing to a change in their dynamic.
I've seen a lot of discourse on Alan's decisions. However, I generally disagree with the idea that it is out of character for Alan to become Tony's latest guinea pig. He made his decision because of who he is at his core, his responsibilities to the team, and the shifting dynamics of his relationship with Jeff.
Alan: The Center of Hunter X
Alan has always been someone who notices more than he lets on. From when when we first met him, back in Season 1, it was made clear that he was emotionally attuned to those closest to him. As the owner of Hunter X, while he wanted the best for his team, he cared much more for the people within it. He picked up on Way's crush on Babe before anyone else did and even tried to push him to go for it. Even Way hadn't been too much of a coward and had gone for it, that would have been dangerous for Hunter X, but he didn't care to consider that. Way was his best friend as well and he wanted the best for him; he understood him.
Similarly, when Kenta tried to buy out Alan in exchange for Babe, he didn't hesitate to deny the deal, even if that would have minimized his worries for the financials of Hunter X. He straight-up told Kenta that the only way Babe would go to the Red Team would be out of his own decision, not because Alan would sell him out. And when Alan mused to Jeff whether maybe it would have been better for Babe to go with the Red Team, before he knew fully of the childhood Babe endured, it wasn't because he was regretting not taking the money, but rather because he wondered if being with a well-funded team would give him stability.
However, in Season 1, it was Jeff that reminded him that everyone is staying on the team because of Alan. Looking back at it now, that same sentiment almost acts like a double-edged sword, because while it eased Alan's concern that he was doing wrong by his racers, it also mounted pressure on him. One that I don't think Jeff or Alan fully realized at the time.
Alan is Hunter X's leader, owner, and founder. That kind of responsibility weighs on him, and in some ways, it has become an integral part of his identity. And while Alan tries to protect everyone in the best way he can, he also sucks at asking for help. Between Season 1 and Season 2, this hasn't changed. And while Jeff's words had helped him back then, they also, unfortunately, tethered him directly to the idea that he had to keep everything together for the sake of everyone that he cared about. That he couldn't afford to fall apart.
Alan's Spiral Begins and Jeff's Intervention
And that's exactly where it all starts to come undone for Alan.
Because how can Alan protect those he loves when you line it all up? Dean leaving the team, Charlie dying, Babe unraveling, Charlie secretly being alive, Way attacking Babe, Way leaving the team, Way dying, Dean ending up in jail, Dean surviving when he was shot, Kim leaving Hunter X because he knows that he can never be number one in the team with Babe around, Dean asking to return to the team, Jeff secretly suffering as his powers worsened, Jeff getting hurt because of those same powers, Dean sacrificing himself for everyone in Hunter X... Alan is surrounded by the aftermath of choices in which he has no control over. And for someone like Alan, who is always the oldest, the fixer, the protector... that helplessness is devastating.
Jeff knows that about Alan. Jeff has been there to see the amount of pressure Alan puts on himself to keep everyone as safe as possible. Hell, even if Alan doesn't fully realize it, Jeff was saved, figuratively and literally, by him. Before Jeff met Alan, Jeff existed in isolation, not solely out of preference, but as a defense mechanism. Every child that came out of Tony's care had been conditioned to be a tool, valuable only as long as they were useful, discarded the moment they became inconvenient. Jeff had not been spared from Tony's method of upbringing. He knew the rules of Tony's system, so he made himself dispensable because with Tony, being discarded means freedom.
But for Jeff, freedom from Tony didn't mean that he had any actual peace. Not just because of the things Tony had him do but simply because of what his powers allowed him to see. Every touch, every connection, came with the risk of traveling to a future that he had no control over. So he cut himself off and kept people at an arm's length, not solely out of indifference but out of self-preservation.
And now, I'm not saying that Jeff/Alan's love story is one where true love heals all because it definitely didn't. They both struggled to understand each other at first, but Alan was persistent enough and willing to break down Jeff's barriers. Alan didn't force Jeff to connect, but instead, he invited him. He made space for Jeff in his life. He gave Jeff that option. There's real power in providing choices... in offering a choice rather than an ultimatum.
And for Jeff, who had only ever been treated as a tool and isolated himself, Alan gave him something rare: agency and affection. Alan made that risk feel worth it, because with Alan, Jeff was simply human. Not a weapon, not a tool, not an item to be auctioned to the richest bidder. With Alan, he was just Jeff, Alan's boy, and a damn good mechanic that Hunter X needed. Alan made Jeff feel like someone who was wanted for who he was, not for what he could do.
It's why Jeff tries, in his own way, to ease Alan's burden. So he didn't tell Alan his powers were worsening, didn't reveal just how bad it had gotten, because he didn't want Alan to feel responsible for the inevitable for his type of power. He saw how much pressure Alan was already under, how deeply Alan blamed himself for every fracture in the team, and how Alan's injury was taking a toll on him. So, Jeff tries and tries to ease that burden, keeping his own situation a secret and trying to help him move on with Dean. However, it's the last thing that Alan seems capable of doing... moving on and burying another person he cares for.
When Dean disappears after the explosion, it's like something within Alan just snaps. For Alan, it's just another sign that he's not enough to protect the people that he cares about. He refuses to stop searching for Dean's body and refuses to acknowledge what everyone is thinking because admitting that Dean is dead would be another failure. Another person that he couldn't save. For Alan, searching is almost his penance of sorts to Dean for letting him sacrifice himself for the safety of the team.
And Jeff sees the downward spiral Alan is venturing into. Jeff suggests Dean's burial not because he wanted to force Alan to find some closure, but rather, he was trying to ease Alan's suffering by offering to give him anything that could ground him.
The issue is that Alan didn't take it that way.
Alan's Breaking Point
Intentions versus perception is one hell of a thing. And while Jeff intended to ground Alan, Alan only heard that Jeff was telling him to give up. Finality. And Alan, who was clinging to the hope that Dean would not be another person that he lost and failed to save, lashed out. He literally pushed Jeff away, not out of cruelty, but out of anger and pain towards his own perceived failure.
But the thing is that, amid his spiraling, he lashes out at Jeff. Jeff, who had spent years building walls to survive, was only starting to become accustomed to being loved without condition, without being perfect, right, or useful. And Alan pushes Jeff away for suggesting a burial... It's not just a disagreement but a rejection of Jeff's attempt to comfort him. To love and care for Alan in the only way he knows how, by being painfully realistic. By preparing Alan gently for the blow he can't stop.
However, after everything Alan has gone through—and everything he has lost—he doesn't see it as comfort. Instead, they land as confirmation of his worst fear: The Dean is gone. That he failed to protect the people he cared about again. To Alan, the burial would only prove to him his own ineptitude. To stop searching, stop hoping, stop believing that he could have saved Dean because he's not enough. And while he feels guilty about Dean and failing to protect him, he also feels worse thinking that he wouldn't be able to protect those that he loves.
Especially Jeff.
Because Jeff isn't just someone that he loves. Jeff is the one person that Alan wants to protect, to keep close, safe, and whole. And, to Alan, if his failure is still unfolding, he likely fears that Jeff might be the one to pay for it next. Because if he can't find and protect Dean, then he can't protect those that he deems important to him, and Jeff might be the next one to pay.
Jeff's Silence
But for Jeff, that moment also seems to cut along scars that he never allowed to fully heal. Even though Jeff has opened up in the few years he has been with Alan, he had spent many more years closing down and hiding from others. Jeff, for a greater part of his life, was not used to being wanted when he was vulnerable. Again, he grew up in an environment where there was no love given to the children, just a value number. And Alan's anger feels like rejection.
Jeff doesn't yell back. He doesn't respond. He doesn't demand Alan to apologize. He just goes quiet and shuts down.
Because silence is what has always protected him and kept him safe for all those years under Tony's control. Silence meant survival. And for a moment, it returns like muscle memory.
Jeff retreats into that old armor because somewhere deep down, he already believes that he's messed up. He's still carrying the weight of keeping the status of his powers a secret from Alan, which had resulted in him being frozen out.
And now, with Alan lashing out, showing Jeff a kind of anger that Jeff had never seen directed at him, all Jeff can do is freeze. Withdraw. Makes himself smaller. Because at least if he says nothing, he can't make it worse. At least if he stayed silent, Alan would never look at him like that again.
At least his silence won't lead to his disappointment.
Alan's Desperation
And in the aftermath, Alan is fully disappointed in himself. The guilt, helplessness, and his crushing sense of not being enough settle into something dangerous and desperate. Not only that, but Winner hits the one cord that he knows will make Alan compliant. Winner purposefully mentions that if Tony gets Charlie's blood, he'll leave the Hunter X team alone.
So he goes to Tony. Not out of trust. But it was the most brutal form of self-sacrifice.
Alan doesn't go to Tony because he believes in him or because he naively thinks that it will all turn out okay. This isn't really about his injury. It all boils down to his belief that he can't protect the people he loves in his current state. So, he has to become someone else, even if that means striking a deal with the devil.
Because he's tired. Tired of being the one left in the aftermath, unable to stop it, and unable to save them.
While Charlie, Jeff, Babe, and all the others are trying to shed their powers, attempting to reclaim normalcy and escape the pain that comes with being used and chosen against their will, Alan still sees power.
And so he lets himself become the guinea pig, Tony's new experiment willing to fulfill his demands in exchange for the safety of his team, the very people he cares about the most. So that he doesn't get left behind again. So that nobody else has to suffer.
Tragedy of Love and Miscommunication
Like in any relationship, communication is key, and this rings true for Alan and Jeff. It's not that they love each other any less. If anything, it's the complete opposite. They love each other so much that they both fall into the trap of trying to protect rather than trying to communicate with each other. However, you can't truly protect someone when you can't be fully honest with them. You can't shield each other from pain and harm if you're unwilling to share the burden.
And that applies not only to his relationship with Jeff, but also to his relationship with everyone that he loves.
From the first moment we met Alan, he has consistently shown that he would willingly sacrifice himself for those he cares about.
Alan thinks he's protecting Jeff and the ones that he loves by carrying all his worries alone. By secretly sacrificing himself for their sake. But love that hides too much becomes a love that only hurts. Protection without communication only serves to breed misunderstanding. And in their silence, they stop seeing each other clearly.
And the tragedy is that they're all trying to love each other in the best way they know how.
They just haven't realized that love isn't meant for each of them to be carrying the burden of their worries alone.
But rather, it's about carrying it together.
When Jeff asked Charlie for advice i thought ‘there’s no way he’s going to tell his younger brother that all he and his boyfriend do for conflict resolution is fuck it out’ but then that’s exactly what he said
At least he explicitly said that’s probably not what Jeff should do though. A+ work my guy
Why so hungry Jeff? Eating for two?
Unfortunately, I doubt that things will go this way, but I would love to see Charlie taking Jeff's powers handled somewhat like the core transfer in MDZS. It was invasive, it was not consensual, it alters their lives, it could (should) drive both of them mad in different ways. Two brothers who were raised in the same home (but unequal in some way), and the terrible choices they make because they care that much.
And it affects everything from that point forward.
Obviously there's giant differences as well, but it should still be a devastating event for everyone. That was not meant to happen and it TWISTS them all inside to live with that.