#joshuba

[sufferu]

I do think I want everyone to know that, originally, Julius was going to find out that Subaru and Joshua were dating by barging into Subaru’s room on his birthday morning and catching them both. Uh. Right before they were about to solidify the nature of their relationship.

[igdrasii]

Subaru casually describing Joshua as a “pretty boy with a handsome, delicate face” in what surelyyy is totally straight behavior.

[sufferu]

Kinda thinking that maybe BTZ won’t go the Joshuba route after all lol. Might not be as fun as I originally thought it’d be — though, I DO still want those two to be friends.

[sufferu]

If Subaru x Joshua becomes canon. How would Julius react? Subaru finds confort & friendship in another despite Julius trying so hard. Especially if it's his little brother? That's kinds funny not gonna lie. Especially if u consider Joshua's dependence (?) on Julius lol

Julius would legitimately be fucking thrilled. He doesn’t like Subaru in That Way anymore, after all, and— Subaru and his little brother?! He loves both of them, and now they’re together, and— Julius ends up becoming Joshua’s worst wingman. He’s trying his best but he’s horrible at it. Emilia also thinks this is a very sweet ending. Subaru is dying of embarrassment. Joshua might actually faint from the humiliation of his older brother trying to “subtly” set him up.

It’s everyone else who finds this very, very funny. Ferris straight up starts cackling when he finds out about this turn of events, what do you MEAN Julius’ old situationship ended up with his little brother?! Wilhelm has no fucking clue how to respond to this, at all. Anastasia needs a drink. The Pearlbaton triplets are bullying Joshua SO hard.

[sufferu]

You really can tell exactly how invested I am in Julimilia as anything but a way to make Subaru suffer by how insanely homoerotic Julius and Subaru’s relationship is turning out.

[sufferu]

I was unaware the bnha cuck memes were a factor in the decision to write btz, but I don't feel like it's a very fair comparison.

Romance is NOT a major factor in BNHA. Like at all. Granted I'm only on season 5, but despite the fandoms fixation in shipping I think Midoriya, Mineta and Denki are the only male 1A students I recall who even show any interest in romanc. You could headcanon most of the cast as aroace without ever contradicting canon.

Midoriya's primary motivation has ALWAYS been to become a hero. His interest in Ochako is secondary AT BEST, and based on what I've seen this far its such a big part of his character that the author could have ended up with one of the other girls without it seeming like it came out of no where (We know he was attracted to Mei at least.)

So fans acting like "Losing the girl is the worst thing that can happen to a guy." really is not consistent with Midoriya's character.

The fact is, if Midoriya was forced to choose between being a hero while staying single forever or marrying Ochako but never getting to be the hero, he would obviously choose the former.

In contrast, this is very much NOT the case in regards to Re:Zero. Romance is a huge part of Re:Zero's focus. Both Subaru loving Emilia, Rem's love for Subaru, Beatrice wanting that special person. Hell, basically all the Sin archbishops save for the gluttonies seem to have having a horrifically twisted view of love and relationships as their primary character flaw.

This goes especially for Subaru. Emilia a HUGE part of his motivation, and I would say prior to losing Ren at the end of arc 3 it was almost his ENTIRE motivation.

So the readers being upset about Subaru not getting the girl makes considerable more sense when compared to readers being upset at the idea of Midoriya not ending up with someone.

I think maybe if Subaru at least got some other girl like Rem or one of the other royal candidates, or even Fredrica or someone might make people feel slightly better about the situation, but thus far you've only confirmed that Emilia will end up with Julius, which I think is why a lot of readers are more focused on the "cucking"

Also keep in mind, not every fan of the series og are necessarily super invested in Julius as a character. Personally, aside from Aldebaran, I find the other knights to be among the least interesting characters in the series. I mostly watch for the members of Emilia's camp, the royal candidates themselves, and the Witch Cultists.

So even though I am really enjoying Dogshow, and will hopefully have time to read No refunds once it's finished, I can't say I am very likely to get invested in Back to Zero.

…Okay, backstory on the BNHA thing: for like two weeks after the manga ended, I ended up getting swamped with so many fucking cuck jokes out of absolutely nowhere despite not even having watched any of it since Season 3 was airing. But then in the midst of this I realized “Wait a minute. Unrequited love would actually totally fit in with the themes of BTZ, and it has this number of other benefits, too.” and thus decided to try it out. Did my annoyance introduce the idea? Yes. But it was not why I decided to go ahead with it.

Also Subaru IS actually confirmed to end up with someone and I’ve posted about it a fair few times. I’ve even considered changing who it is going off of other people’s ideas, but so far it’s held firm. Though frankly, the idea that someone HAS to be in a romantic relationship in order to be happy — and furthermore, the idea that women are prizes that need to be obtained by men in order for men to be happy — I really do not like that philosophy.

[sufferu]

THIS is some crazy foreshadowing, isn't it? („• ֊ •„)

Nobody is going to see that coming lmao they have like NO RELATIONSHIP in canon—

[sufferu]

Does Subaru actually get along with anyone in BTZ? Someone who doesn't make him feel useless and can properly communicate with him?

I think it would be peak comedy for Subaru to be really comfortable with random side character like Kodomon or another character that was present for like...one chapter.

The cast are LOSING their minds trying to figure how to fix their relationship with Subaru meanwhile hes drinking tea with that one white fluffy demi human that appeared for a split second in EP 1

I mean — Subaru and Joshua have NO RELATIONSHIP in canon, lmao, so that kind of fits…? And like, they actually do become pretty close, and have a reasonably healthy dynamic — and within BTZ I to boot!

I will say — I do want to avoid making OCs and stuff, lol. Like, I know I did that with the three senior knights, but that’s legitimately because I couldn’t find any named fucking characters and needed to give some insight on how the knight’s order was currently doing. For any actual relationships between Subaru and other characters, I’m gonna want them to be Actual characters.