#larry baiting

[skepticalarrie]

Hi Allie I had a question about “Larry baiting”. I’m a larrie and I believe they’ve been together since 2010/11 but one of my friends brought up something that kind got me a bit stuck. When Louis changed the Spotify covers earlier this year for the walls anniversary, wouldn’t it be possible that his management/label had him do it for “Larry baiting”? Because otherwise I don’t think he would be allowed to do anything of the sort. It’s really loud and obvious. How would u explain the whole situation ? Now I’m not saying I’m “unlarrying” because that’s dumb but isnt it possible that even though larry is real, that was done for more attention ?

No, dear, it really wouldn't. Because for it to be used as "larrybaiting", therefore a PR strategy, larry would have to be openly discussed and "displayed" like it was something fine or at least acceptable. I don't think we really talk about this anymore, but larrybaiting 100% happened at some point. In very early days, they used to milk the shit out of larry, their "bromance" was everywhere, larry stylinson was everywhere. I mean...

(the heart-shaped picture is absolutely ridiculous omg look at them this is disgusting)

Stuff like this article is totally profiting from their special connection and lovely "friendship". I think is very easy to tell why 1D was so huge, the boys' friendship was very genuine, people loved to see them together and interact. It makes them look relatable and essentially good guys that you would like to date. And that's when things changed. 1D was always marketed as the boys next door, extremely appealing for the young female audience, but things for larry actually changed when their "bromance" got in the way of how the band was being promoted. Promoting a homosexual relationship was the last thing they wanted when talking for an audience that was basically fantasising about them. And that's when larry became a forbidden subject, they stopped interacting, not leaving any room for interpretations, that's when the narrative against larry and larries began - like, real fans don't support larry stylinson, it's disrespectful, it ruined their friendship, conspiracy theory - basically to help to shut down rumours putting the fans against each other. And that's what we still see to this day, and that's why probably all of our inboxes are full of hate right in this second.

So for it to be an actual strategy to "please" larries, larry would need to be allowed in the first place. And that's obviously not the case. Everything official follows the official narrative where they hate larry, everything indisputable leans towards completely heterosexual images with girlfriend and son. Why would their teams put so much effort into larrybaiting when they would have to deal with damage control immediately after. Larry only shows up when there is room for plausible deniability. Which is exactly what happens in this case.

Now, here's a question to you anon or anyone who believes "larrybaiting" is a thing: would they really do that? I mean, we're talking about guys desperately talking through teddy bears, would they play this game while facing such severe closeting? And if you think larry is not real, but they still larrybait (because that's the only logical explanation for a few things let's face it), why are you supporting them then? Larry ruined their friendship, it's horrible and disrespectful, but they are fine with profiting from it? Feeding it? What kind of people do you think they are.

[daisiesonafield-blog]

Saw your post about Louis shirt that had a letter H on it and how that could mean something. How do we know he picked that out himself? Even for a livestream he could’ve had a stylist pick out his outfit or give him a couple options. I have a hard time reading too much into t-shirt ya know?

Hi anon,

It very well may be one of the options of clothing his stylist presented him with. But it certainly wasn’t his stylist coming to him and being like “hey wear this”. Like he has a choice. His stylist likely had several options that they came up with of different outfits he could wear. We don’t know if the shirt was a coincidence - like if it just happened to be one of the options or if it was planned and asked for.

But regardless of that, he knew exactly what it would mean for him to wear the letter H on his chest. He’s not an idiot nor oblivious to his own fans and fandom. Plus H is Harry’s nickname. And he very well knows that. So regardless of how he came upon that shirt, his choice to actually wear it for his show was very intentional.

I mean, put yourself in his shoes. Having lived the last 10 years having a super intense fanbase, who are notorious for looking into every small detail, and a fanbase he knows is comprised of millions of people who think you are dating Harry. You see that shirt, and you’re like “oh I already know what they’re gonna think”. There’s no way he’s unaware of that. 

He knows what kind of message that would send.

And in regards to him using that to “lead larries on” or “bait larries”, I also don’t think that’s the case. This was his biggest solo show ever. Why would he do such a major thing simply to appease and continue to bait? Especially when the narrative is that he finds it annoying? He could very simply have picked a different tshirt. Like an Umbro shirt he loves to wear. Larries wouldn’t have been disappointed or “unlarried” if he had not worn the H shirt. Everyone was excited for his show. Including larries. If this is about baiting us in order to keep his fanbase and he chose to do that by overshadowing his own gig by wearing Harry’s name...like that simply makes zero sense to me. It also doesn’t sound very much like Louis. Like that Livestream was a moment for him. For his career. For himself. I don’t see him “tainting” that with a cheap bait towards his ex boyfriend/bandmate (as non-larries say).

Like if I had a massive project coming up that I worked hard for, I would not get up on that stage and wear my ex’s initials. No thanks. This is my moment. Or I also wouldn’t wear the initials of someone the public thinks I’m involved with but that I’ve denied several times. No thanks. This is my moment. To say my words. To show the world who I am and what I have to say.

I especially wouldn’t do that if I had a partner who I have been dating for the past 7-whatever years. Do you understand just HOW disrespectful that is to them? I’ve been with my partner for over 6 years, I’d be devastated if they did that. If my partner showed up wearing the initials of their ex during a big show like that I would be up the walls in hurt, disrespect, anger. Honestly. It would signal to me they don’t respect me or care about me or my feelings at all. PR baiting be damned. He would not do that, especially since he said that it’s allegedly "a bit disrespectful to me gf Eleanor”. Please.

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[skepticalarrie]

About your larrybaiting/for promo ask thought this old anon message I had seen back in the day would be useful

Yes! That’s exactly it, very well said. Thank you for that, Bria! ☺️ I’m also adding this on my larry baiting tag for future reference.

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[caralara]

Hi, can i ask what kind of things you would define as baiting?

mostly making stuff blue green id say probably

[edwa0243]

I’ve been thinking about Louis’s speech about him making it without radio support, which I am super proud of him for, by the way. Many of his supporters love him because of his music and who is but we are also Larries. So if he was Larry baiting(which I don’t think he is), all those that have been against him like S the slime would try prove, push the theory that Louis is Larry baiting, but they can’t can they!

[liberty-barnes]

or wait, did all the larrying that louis and harry are doing leave you speechless?

Louis larrying or Larry beating? That's a great example of how deep brainwashed are you all.

I'm speechless, yes. I'm speechless the fact you think HARRY give y'all dumnbass codes like that man is big enough for industry that don't even need a litral delusional group horny teens. Lol!!

I was considering just ignoring you cause your animosity is getting on my nerves, but hey, this is turning out to be quite fun! I love discussing things, even if the people that start those discussions are often disrespectful morons such as yourself who don't have the decency to send me a kindly-worded message asking my opinion on things before deciding that I'm a "brain-washed, delusional idiot".

But, I digress.

So, let's start with the Larry baiting, shall we?

Now if, as you say, Larry isn't real, then the following things are also automatically true since taking Larry out of the equation leaves no reason for these previous statements to be false/something said to shut us down:

Louis feels that our behaviour is disrespectful towards his loved ones

We put a strain in his and Harry's friendship

He wants us to stop

Now tell me, if those statements were in fact true, why on Earth would he encourage us? And don't bring in the comment that "he doesn't know what it means" because a) he's not dumb and b) it has been confirmed that he and his team see everything.

If Larry wasn't real, Louis wouldn't do this, regardless of whether or not he needs the fans, because he's not the kind of person to put his career above his family. Larry baiting is not a valid counterargument.

Now onto the second part (which I rephrased cause the grammatical errors were making me cringe): Harry is big enough in the industry that he doesn't need a group of delusional horny teens [presumably Larries], therefore he is not sending [Larries] any signs.

(See how just one little re-read of your anon and rephrase can make it sound logical? Well, grammatically, at the very least.)

And see, my dearest anon, this here is where you -pardon my french- fucked yourself over. Because again, Harry's smart. He and his team see everything. They know everything. So if he didn't want us to pick up on those signs, they wouldn't be there.

And you can't even claim Larry baiting here because as you said, he's big enough at the moment that he doesn't need us, but he does want us there, and if he wants us here, it has to be for a reason, don't you think so? I'll let you connect those dots yourself, see if you've learned something from this little speech.

Does that make a bit more sense to you now? I really hope I could help explain things to you, but if you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to contact me! (Although maybe try to do it in a nicer way, yeah? Just a thought.)

-Love, Miah <3

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[seasurfacefullofclouds1]

It’s funny when 1D were towards the end, and The label tried to create a terrible image of the band, probably around weed gate, they tried to get the band to deny Larry... when it was never really focused on. I honestly believe that by denning Larry it would turn fans off, which we saw when Louis denied Larry later on and Harry didn’t

Isn’t it funny how much of 1DHQ’s modus operandi carried over to HSHQ, and to a lesser extent LTHQ? “Larry” is mocked as a fandom conspiracy, but it’s baited to fans— the rainbow bears in 1D, Euphoria/ Eroda in solo era (and all the media hangers-on copy it— Sirius XM, Capital FM, MTV, Popcrave etc.). It’s the sell-to-everyone strategy. When fandom is at war, everyone is more passionate and digs in deeper.

[bluerainlarrie]

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