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I commissioned @bambieheart444 of my sunshine fox and black cat eclipse au! Of Liladrien look at them!
thinking of them again....
Far far deep in my assorted notes is a bunch of ideas involving Lila and Adrien and their "friendship", more specifically chronicling every single time Adrien did something to piss Lila off 😭 I've grown very attached to the idea that they're two very similar people who can go through the motions of acting civil yet cannot STAND the other. Lila is too mean and Adrien is too quirky. By the time Adrien grows a spine and stops taking Lila's bullshit without standing up for himself (i.e. purse smacking, verbal insults, screaming...), he's perfectly able to match her energy and start pissing her off on purpose instead of just by accident.
These are all snippets from VoxPop, though, so thankfully they're not doomed to Secret WIP Hell. Adrien, I love you and your bizarre off-putting swag.
I was thinking about how Marinette broke Adrien's amoks, and that if Lila was in her position, even if she didn't love him,* she would value him too much as a possession to do that. So could you please go over how Lila would likely treat Adrien if she was in a relationship with him, what ways she would mistreat him, and how they compare to the ways Marinette is mistreating him.
*Which is debateable. When Kagami put a truth-detector on her, she said that she loved Adrien, and it didn't trigger. Now, it is possible that she just believes that she loves Adrien,** or that the truth detector was only responding to her larger point, which was her saying that if Kagami kills Ladybug, she is willing to stop trying to date him.
**Which might actually describe Marinette's relationship with him.
Dude, I have so many thoughts about how Liladrien would go. It's literally my favorite ship in mlb.
Their dynamic is just pure gold. With only three episodes, the show managed to give this relationship more development than the main ship had in 6 season (Adrien and Lila's initial perceptions of one another are very different than their final perceptions). The two of them are insanely good foils for one another. And most importantly, you can explore sides about those characters that you never see anywhere else.
Adrien got Lila pegged from the get go. She lies because she wants attention and to pretend like her life is better than it is. (Or at least that's the characterization they had for her before the Cerise nonsense, which is what I'm sticking with.)
He also correctly assessed that the best way to deal with her is to ignore her, as that robs her of all the power she has over you. I don't give a shit what s5 says, Adrien was completely right in his attitude towards Lila. Especially because as soon as Lila started doing things that aren't just harmless lying, he took action as well.
That scene between them in "Ladybug" might be the single most fascinating piece of characterization Adrien ever got. For a single scene, Adrien was allowed to have a spine of steel and put Lila in her place. He was shown to not only be Lila's equal, but someone who who could win against her in a way literally no other character in the show managed. Not even Gabriel managed to go against Lila and escape unscathed.
We only see them interacting a single time after that, but there we see that Adrien is quick to tell her off for trying to pull bullshit with him.
This is a side of Adrien we never get to see anywhere else. With other people we get hints of his anger, his stubborness, even the tiniest flicker of ruthlessness. But he cares about their opinions of him too much so he pushes down everything that might make them dislike him.
With Lila? Adrien couldn't care less what she thinks of him. That makes him willing to be a lot more open about his agressive or otherwise unflattering sides of him. It's such an amazing setup to explore all his less-than-perfect sides and his relationship to them.
Because what he feels about them would define how he feels about Lila. Is he ashamed of them? Hates them? Scared of them? Or maybe there's a part of him he represses that wants to let them loose. That wants to be allowed to act however he wants without having to contort himself for the sake of the other person.
And if that's how he feels about them, then even if he can't stand Lila and hates that she tried to hurt his friends, he would still have a reason to seek her out. After all, she's the only person he feels comfortable acting this way around.
On Lila's side, the relationship would be just as fraught. We saw her reaction in canon to having her lies exposed and it's universally to lash out and try to mess up the other person's life.
However, we see a difference in how she reacts to Marinette and Adrien's attempts. Marinette goes against her publically and tries to destroy everything she built up, which leads to Lila getting obsessed with destroying her in turn.
Adrien meanwhile, talks to her in private conversations and only tries to stop her when she's hurting people. Lila's reaction to that was to lash out at him once, but she never developed the same sort of vendetta as she has against Marinette. In fact, he called her out and went against her but she didn't retaliate at all.
She clearly sees Adrien's method as less of a threat to her ego, and so she's more willing to tolerate it. Even after he went against her she still tries to flirt with him. But there's no way she can accept his victories over her gracefully, especially if it happens multiple times.
The way Adrien can see right through her would definitely put her on edge. And to make matters worse, he reaction isn't to demonize her and treat her as an enemy, but to empathize and offer his hand in friendship.
She was already attracted to Adrien for all the reasons you would imagine (rich, famous, handome), but now he would also be the one person she can't manipulate but who's also not her enemy.
If the show actually cared about character dynamics rather than making Marinette the center of the universe, Lila would see Adrien as a worthy opponent. She could still see Marinette as that bitch she despises and wants to make her life hell (especially if she suspects Marinette is Ladybug like in s6, since she would have double the vendetta), but Adrien is the one she would be looking to play games with.
She would seek to possess and control him. Both to get one over him as payback, but also because she seeks the understanding and companionship he offers but wants to have it without having to risk being vulnerable.
Adrien would push back, as we saw he's both capable and willing to do against Lila. And every time he would manage to get one over her, she would grow more obsessed with posessing him.
If they ever get into a relationship, it would be one of the most overtly toxic things you ever saw. Lila would use all the classic abusive techniques to try and isolate Adrien, to cut him off from any support network he has and undermine his confidence and self esteem. Not all of them would succeed, but some of them would.
But while most of the toxicity would come from Lila's side, not all of it would. That relationship would bring the worst out of Adrien. Yet the toxicity would also be half the appeal for him. It would feel more honest than something like the sickly sweet relationship he has with Marinette. Lila's possessiveness would also do a lot to soothe his abandonment issues.
I'm of two minds whether Lila would use his amok against him. On the one hand, it would feel cheap, and part of the fantasy of taking Adrien down a peg would be earning that victory over him because she's so much better. On the other hand, all's fair in love and war and Lila definitely isn't afraid of playing dirty. If Adrien didn't want to get mind controlled he shouldn't have been born a senti. She would most likely keep it as a ace up her sleeve for a moment where she doesn't manage to get what she wants by her usual means.
As for breaking Adrien's amok, I can only see her doing that as a "if I can't have him, no one can" thing. She would never in a thousand years break the amok in the same situation Marinette was. She would let the city burn first.
The ways Marinette mistreats Adrien are less toxic (not a high bar to clear), but unlike with Lila, Adrien doesn't push back at all. He cares about Marinette's opinion of him, so he has all his people pleasing instincts engaged. He would rationalize that all of the mistreatment is his fault because he's doing something wrong (as we see in canon). He wouldn't hold Marinette accountable for any of it.
Marinette would definitely be willing to use Adrien's amok. As soon as she feels like she has a justified reason or it would be the quickest way to fix a problem, she would do it with barely any hesitation.
As for breaking them, I doubt she would be willing to do it if there was a 100% chance he would die. But as canon showed, she isn't averse to playing russian roulette with his life.
Liladrien Headcanon:
Chrysalis uses any excuse to attempt to akumatize Adrien so she can ask him out.
Chrysalis, laying on her side floating in the akuma mind space with rose petals fluttering in from above: "Metal Maniac... I see the universe has ruthlessly struck you down once again. Oh, how my heart bleeds for your suffering."
Adrien: "I stubbed my toe."
Chrysalis: "Let me grant you flesh of impenetrable steel! No furniture will ever harm you again! All I ask in return are the Miraculous... and maybe we grab dinner after? Just to see where the night takes us~"
Adrien: "...Lila, please. Just break into my room like a normal person."
Careless Whisper plays in the background the whole time with Chrysalis' avatar going ham on the saxophone.
(Tried art with minimal lines this time, thought it'd make the 3D model reference less obvious)
someone take procreate away from me.
FIC RECOMMENDATION
Just finished a very interesting Liladrien fic, so thought I'd share.
It's called "The only one to trust me with the truth." by Emiya129
While the writing, text-wise is mid, the plot is great and interesting! Most of Lila/Cerise x Adrien fics are either some toxic form of "Let me use you, and I'll let you use me" or just non-con which is not my can of soup.
There are examples of Cerise making Adrien worse, yet this is the only one I found where it's Adrien who makes her better.
The most unexpected thing is her suddenly changing her ways from "Lying as much as breathing" to "Truth, and only truth". She tells Adrien his father was Hawkmoth, he's fine. She tells him he's a senti, he's chilling like "Yeah, that makes sense." As her final weapon, she tells him she's Chrysalis and all she is met with is "I guessed so. Can you just clarify some details to me?" as if they are discussing homework and not the dark secrets of his life.
I wish the author made a part where Adrien waits for a guillotine to drop, or to be stabbed in the back by her, but nothing happens because she told him the truth, so he just sits there, comprehending the new reality where she doesn't lie. I need the tension, I need the drama!!
On the other hand, I adore how nonchalant they are to eachother in the beginning. Lila just wanted to date him to piss Marinette off, but he clocked her like immediately. She can't just leave him now, because he knows too much, so she is just chilling near.
Adrien meanwhile has a mental war going on.
Lila is a liar, but she told him the truth.
She would do evil without hesitation, but she's the only one who told him the truth.
She's a manipulative sociopath and a terrorist, but she told him the truth!
After that they just start hanging out "to keep him/her in line of sight". They do it for so long they don't notice how they are just staring at eachother only.
"It's just to piss off Maritrash."/"It's just because she's the only honest one in my life" at the start, and at the end its "I want him entirely. I want to love only him! I want him to love only me!.. But I won't control him, he deserves freedom." and "Oh GOD, I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT HER!!! We're really in it now, Sailor Moon...."
That said, after they finally realise that they like eachother, its just peak romance! It begins with Cerise telling him she loves him and immediately hanging up, then at the hospital Adrien does the same, except he goes:
"Oh, forgot one thing."
"What is it?"
"Loveyoubye!!"
And locks the door, not letting her say it back just like she did. They are very different, yet so, so much alike, it's not even funny.
What's more interesting, with Marinette getting worse and worse each time she's on the screen, Lila and Adrien becoming a coupe is not out of the question. I don't have any hope for the show, but I see the potential. I'm a sucker for toxic looking couples who are actually very healthy.
Something like a gold digger and a rich guy, but in reality they smooch and cuddle and love eachother very very much.
Maybe a pretty guy who looks like a jerk because of his resting face and a girl who looks like she's forced to be around him, but the guy is Adrien who is the kindest soul around and the girl is Juleka who is very shy.
My side of a pride month art trade with @kittysuicoffee ,featuring yurified liladrien! Happy Pride Month y'all 💖
Adrienette Kiss (Canon and Yuri version)
I show you two versions of Adrienette fanart here (all designed on sheet):
Left: Adrien and Marinette kissing together (♂️♀️)
Right: Adrienne (Female Adrien) and Marinette kissing together (♀️♀️)
The canon Adrienette draft is the first to be deawn. The yuri version is a added modification made on the previous draft.
Bonus (tw: suggestive):
A gratified Cerise is sleeping on her bed and she has a fantasy dream. A confused (and non-restricted) Nooroo thinks about the situation: "What's wrong with her ? What does she dreams about ?!"