#maiden names

[thatpollguy]

Does your surname begin with W?

Yes

No

Voting ended onNov 14, 2025

[mistercutter]

I DIDN'T KNOW NEIL CICIEREGA FILMED THE MUSIC VIDEO FOR MY FAVORITE CONCEPT ALBUM'S BEST SONG BASED ON JONATHAN CRANE SPECIFICALLY SCARECROW: YEAR ONE !!?!

[narwa]

how many generations back do you know your ancestors maiden names?

none (only mine)

one (my mother's)

two (mother's and grandmother's)

three (mother's, grandmother's and great grandmother's)

four

more?

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Voting ended onAug 3, 2024

[dragynkeep]

What’s the ship name for Winter Schnee and Summer Rose? Solstice?

Maiden Names!

[shakespearenews]

Miss Hale has converted the Bard of Avon’s famous rose quotation into the following: “A rose is sweet only when it is called a rose.” “Any woman with spirit,” she says, “should fight to keep the name she was born with.” 

[dornedaily]

Hi there! Daenerys I really took Maron's surname after the wedding? bc I thought Dorne's marriage customs were different than the Seven Kingdoms, I mean, Nymeria of Ny Sar and Mellario of Norvos didn't took their husbands last name.

Hi! I quickly touched the topic in this meta about Dorne’s consort’s title. Nothing would lead us to think that Daenerys I took on the Martell surname.

It doesn’t have anything to do with Dorne’s marriage customs but simply with Daenerys’s own status. She was royalty, a princess of blood (to echo what they called princes of blood in France), whose marriage “mark[ed] Dorne’s marriage to the Iron Throne” (AFFC, The Soiled Knight). I will copy-paste what I wrote in that first meta:

Daenerys Targaryen (daughter of Aegon IV) married into House Nymeros Martell and is never referred as Daenerys Nymeros Martell. She is the only Westerosi lady we know of that married a ruling Prince of Dorne but it does work along this rule of keeping one’s birth name. Her title was most probably something along the lines of “Daenerys Targaryen, Lady of Sunspear/Lady Nymeros Martell, Princess Consort of Dorne”. Of course, she was royalty so it is very specific: the royal name will always prevail and Westerosi ladies cannot “marry into” the Targaryen family. All non-Targaryen spouses are referred by their birth house name, starting with Elia Nymeros Martell. Other exemples of this include Cersei Lannister (never Baratheon), Myriah Nymeros Martell, Aemma Arryn, Alicent Hightower and Betha Blackwood just to name a few.

To add to this, all Targaryen princesses who married into other houses are referred to as Targaryens. A few exemples include Rhaelle Targaryen (married Ormund Baratheon), Rhaenys Targaryen (daughter of Aemon, The Queen Who Never Was, married Corlys Velaryon) and Daella Targaryen (married Rodrik Arryn).

Even in the text, Daenerys I is still referred as being a Targaryen and not Martell:

The Gardens are my haven, Prince Maron raised them as a gift for his Targaryen bride (AFFC, The Soiled Knight)

One of my ancestors had them built to please his Targaryen bride (AFFC, The Watcher)

All in all, the Targaryen name always prevails, Dorne or not Dorne.

As for Nymeria of Ny Sar, she literally formed a new line combining her name and her husband’s name: Nymeros Martell (what a legend!). We can only guess for Mellario but she’s enough of a high-ranking noblewoman to keep her name no matter what and...Doran and her are estranged.

[jonathan-cranes-mistress-of-fear]

have you listened to Your Suffering by Maiden Names? I feel like not many people know about it

Yes I have, it’s a great song and I’m really surprised that it’s about Year One Scarecrow, I think that’s honestly amazing that he has a song dedicated to himself. Here are the lyrics for anyone curious!

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Religion left you in the dust of Georgia in the summer monthsShrieking calls of murderous crows would rouse you from your slumberFresh haystacking burlap sacking scratched against your skinShe locked you in that place again and filled you up with sinNight comes down, make your poisonStarve your muscles down to your skeletonThey’re all fatted cows slated for slaughteringDig deep down and killYou’re suffering, kill Kill your sufferingThe city lights are awfully bright but they don’t keep you up at nightYou’ve got some vital things to do and nobody is safeYou thought it would be different here, you thought that it would disappearOnce you choked your only fear and put it in its grave

[thelearningcat]

Hillary Rodham Clinton did not immediately take her husband’s name.

In fact, she still hadn’t when he first ran for office.

They were told part of the reason he lost was that she hadn’t taken his last name.

So she did.

And now she is put down in history as Hillary Clinton. 

And that makes me so utterly sad.