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Mango you caused this chain of events.
You passed the voices over to me.
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Dramatic sigh...
I blame @its-a-me-mango's post for this.
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Somebody kill me now I swear to the GodBox.
Mango you caused this chain of events.
You passed the voices over to me.
The Root of Michael’s Insecurity
•Michael hasn’t been revealed in game, and we don’t even know if every time we’ve met him, it’s actually been him.
•We learned a little bit about the Celestial Realm through one of the latest moments in game. Which deals with “Father”
I honestly doubt there is an antagonist in this game. This game isn’t surrounded by the “hero vs. villain” concept. It’s mainly about broken characters trying their best to improve themselves. I feel like it’s obvious that Michael is also a broken character. From when we’ve met him (the moments we believe we did, at least) he’s always hid himself. Even when we did meet him in person (not in his own skin) he didn’t give off much confidence to me. To me, Michael seems like a very insecure person.
•However, I believe that ties into “Father” who I assume is Obey Me’s version of God.
I believe Michael’s insecurities didn’t stem from Lucifer simply existing. It might be a far stretch with pretty much zero evidence, but it’s a belief.
I think Father has a role in Michael’s insecure behavior, a major role at that. Clearly Lucifer was the pride of the Celestial Realm, which makes me wonder if he was what Father took pride in. I know it’s far fetched, but hear me out:
Favoritism Between Siblings:
•Lucifer was given the Ring of Light and Michael was given the Ring of Wisdom. While the Ring of Light was made from gold/silver, the Ring of Wisdom was made of brass/iron. That’s a big difference. (Like, c‘mon, at least give Michael silver.) If these were given to each by Father, which I assume they are, that’s clear favoritism. The sheer difference in material alone shows who was the clear favorite.
If I’m being honest, that’s really all the evidence I have of clear favoritism as we don’t know a lot about the Celestial Realm and Father. Hell, we know almost nothing about Michael and other Angels. However, this small, vague amount of evidence still leads me to believe Father has some role to play in the way Michael turned out.
•Michael’s insecure, I feel like that should be a given. He hides himself every time we meet him. Whether it be from a ray of light or even someone else’s body, we never see Michael. This is a man who is hiding himself, it’s a part of his character. Again, insecurity doesn’t stem from someone simply existing. I say, Father’s favoritism is the root of the problem.
•I say Father has favorites between all his children, and Michael is not one of them. Michael being the one Father looks past could be the root of his insecure behavior. It could be why he doesn’t show his face: he is the opposite of Lucifer. Michael is the opposite of Father’s favorite, looks wise at least. It’s been said that Michael and Lucifer are opposites, and Lucifer seems to be Father’s favorite. Michael being very loyal to Father, yet not being his favorite had to take a toll of what he thought of himself. His own creator chose another over him, instead of being fair to each. To add, this might also be the root of Michael’s obsession with Lucifer.
An Obsession Caused By Insecurity:
•It’s been said that Michael was a bit of a creep and has an obsession with Lucifer. He would sneak into Lucifer’s room and even had a shrine with his things. This isn’t even an attachment, it’s a major obsession. I’d say, Michael is obsessed with Lucifer because he’s Father’s vision of perfection. Michael is not the favorite, probably not even after the war. Michael probably found flaw after flaw in himself because of the favoritism Father (shamelessly?) displayed. He doesn’t look like Lucifer, he doesn’t look like Father’s favorite. He probably thought that Lucifer must’ve been what everyone thought was perfection. He must have thought that he was completely flawed because he wasn’t Lucifer.
•If anything, the shrine could be to showcase to Michael what he wished he could be. The thing he desired most, his ideal way of showing himself. Sneaking into the room is creepy in itself. I can’t defend that in any way. But, I’d say Michael did it because he wished to be close to what he wanted for himself.
•Michael most likely found himself pointing out every little thing about his personality and visuals. That’s probably why he hides himself. He looks nothing like Lucifer and is so insecure about it he doesn’t want to be seen. The favoritism got to his head and he sees himself as imperfect.
The Final Statement:
•Michael’s insecure behavior didn’t come from nowhere. I haven’t seen anyone dive into why Michael would be insecure, and I see why: There’s little to zero evidence about the reason. We know nothing about him, and I think that’s the point.
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Michael is very insecure, I’ve said that many times. His insecure attitude towards himself probably came from Father and his favoritism. The whole Ring of Light and Wisdom situation, Lucifer being the pride of the Celestial Realm, all of it must’ve come to a head. It most likely broke Michael knowing he would never be Father’s favorite. He is Lucifer’s polar opposite by looks, and most likely personality. They have different interests, styles of punishment, and completely different personalities from the way Michael has acted in the past.
•Not only has Michael hid himself behind someone else’s body, but when in his true body, his first instinct was to run. When Raphael confronted him about his actions, he ran. He physically ran away from his problem. That’s insecurity in its finest form. Again, coming from favoritism. He isn’t Lucifer. He isn’t confident and prideful like him. He doesn’t seem to exert confidence, not the way Lucifer does, at least.
This may or may not be true. It’s a speculation and I had to read far between the lines for this idea.
ok a while ago you and I think angelnoodlesoup were theorizing about angel and michael (which is a fave past time of mine) and how that relationship impacted angel and how they act in their early relationship with David (also I adore your snippet of the angel michael relationship).
so anyway I was relistening to the jealous boyfriend audio and thinking... hmm. Michael couldn't take care of their cat when it was super sick. now let's say for the sake of theory that he DOES have the time and money to care for the cat (because to be fair that can be very expensive and time consuming). So this means he simply does not want to deal with the cat when it's sick, even though we can assume he does care about the cat.
How would this attitude of only giving time and care when something is at its best transfer to a relationship? (Lots of headcanoning and speculation, there's only a little to point to in the audios. this is where I start sounding crazy but I'm sure you'll pick up what I put down)
Angel being hesitant to accept being taken care of or being seen when feeling low. Feeling the need to fix everything themself so it doesn't get to a point where their partner might decide angel isn't worth the hassle. Very independent and not always open to asking for help or doing things they feel might burden their partner (ie not telling David about the cat being sick). etc etc
(And just saying, David would definitely take care of that Cat and love it no matter the state or situation. the cat, of course, being angel (but also the real cat probably). David's love of and insistence in taking care of his partner is one of his most endearing traits)
ok sorry for the long ask, I needed to get this out of my head and I don't have a redacted blog lmao. Michael theorizing is so fun
ANONNNN jsakldfjksl this was such a gift to find in my inbox pls feel free to theorize about michael with me any time you need (i want to hear all the thoughts, even if it may sound crazy at least we can sound crazy <3 together <3)
first and foremost that fic about comparing the two of their relationships is such a doozy and i want to do it justice hence why its been foreverrr since i posted any updates. michael lore that is purely based on tinfoil hat thoughts must be done with justice >:3 but i promise you it will be more than just a lil snip Eventually
that being said, there may or may not be a scene that exists in it that is essentially exactly what you're talking about here ajsdfkl. in my michael lore i think that whole cat situation is like... a crucial peek into how he handled their relationship. the lack of wanting to try and resolve problems so he just.... gets rid of them (cough cough)
add that with the little reminders in david's monologues since day one that he wants to be there for them is such a tell tale sign to me. having to reassure them that he will be there for them and that he wants to be able to be there for them. even if it's just when they have trouble falling asleep. i mean even in his peak grumpy stage, he still took time to reassure them that he cared and that they were his partner, which meant that he wanted to help. that their problems weren't a burden to him, that he valued them which means he VALUES helping them (god i love that man)
idk i could go on and on and on about michael lore and the little mannerisms we see in angel and i know the michael lore simply isn't real but in my soul i think their relationship with michael taught them that their problems didn't matter and their relationship with david is still working at undoing that damage (present tense. that shit is hard to work through and david's grace with it means the world to me)
DSMP headcanons (part 2)
After losing most of both his wings in the final control room, Phil now wears heavy cloaks to make up for the missing weight.
Phil and Foolish immortal penpals!!
Bad can change size by a foot or more depending on his mood.. He doesn't really control it, it just happens.
Ranboo and Tubbo have one of those child-leashes for Michael and take him for walks around the neighborhood sometimes.
Michael likes to stab little bugs and flies and shit (he'll be incredibly good at five finger fillet someday lol)
Big, chunky, handsewn winter jackets for Michael because he isn't used to the cold of Snowchester.
Leg prosthetics for Sam, mainly because of the whole "eating his own flesh" while trapped with the egg thing and partly because of that one bit where Ranboo thought he "paralyzed" him
He built them himself, so they malfunction sometimes but at least they look cool!!
Fundy is never really sure anymore if he's actually awake (leaves doors open, scared to fall asleep).
The lack of sleep doesn't make it better and makes him hallucinate instead.
Ponk's growing an egg-vine arm right now
Hannah is a flowernymph and the effects of the egg are especially bad on her because the vines poison the earth that her flowers grow on.
Looks like Foolish has known Eret for quite a while but Eret doesn't remember. My hc for that is that Eret is an old spirit that has been reincarnated into different bodies quite a lot, but now for the first time they don't remember their past lives.
(It's always been the same Eret, just different bodies)
This would also be where the Herobrine thing comes in. Herobrine was just a name that Eret used at some point.
Karl doesn't remember Quackity. (Forgot to tell him about Kinoko and even in Tales of the SMP he only notices Sapnaps characters) And now it's time to cry.
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I'm sure I have more.. But right now brain empty :)
part 1
The 30 followers special lore teaser is here! So get ready cause soon the garden will bloom..
(also @dreamxdblob for their contribution to Michael's lore)
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Bet you guys weren't expecting Michael Lore huh?
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A Hidden Figure
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I stated this in a previous post about Michael and his insecurities. I wanted to take a deeper dive into what I mean, and Michael’s character in general.
•The Mysterious Angel
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Michael is a character that has been mentioned since the beginning of the game, yet we haven’t seen him. Not only do I believe that this is intentional, I believe it’s a huge part of who Michael is and what he is like.
We know the basics of what his personality is like:
He loves sweets and Astronomy
He has a good fashion sense
Michael is prone to rambling
He can act childish at times
Tends to think selfishly at times
Is the opposite of Lucifer, visually at least
A bit of a sadist
He likes to collect souvenirs
He can be considered lazy
This is just to name the basics.
Michael hides himself and I believe it’s on purpose. At first, I thought it was just the devs being lazy and not wanting to introduce another character (might be true still). However, with everything that’s happened when Michael is in the picture, it seems to be apart of his character.
I spoke in my first post about Father being the reason for Michael’s insecure behavior, which I believe. Michael hides himself and it seems to be on purpose. I doubt devs would be go out of their way to make Michael hide behind light and another person’s body just for the sake of being too lazy to show him. I feel like that’s just more work for them than actually showing him would be. They wouldn’t do this if it wasn’t a cannon part of his character.
A character that hides himself and has been since the beginning of the game; it’s not simple laziness, it’s insecurity. Michael is a character that not only has insecure behavior, but to an extent, self loathing behavior.
Self Loathing VS. Insecurity
Self loathing and insecure behavior are similar, but two completely different things.
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Self Loathing: Extreme criticism of oneself; a constant belief or feeling of worthlessness, failure, inadequacy, and incompetence.
Insecurity: Uncertainty or anxiety about oneself; lack of confidence.
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While insecure behavior is expressed more as anxiety and uncertainty about oneself, self loathing behavior is essentially self hatred.
Michael is a character that is not only insecure, but arguably has self loathing behavior. This stems from him physically running from problems. However, the thing is, when Michael ran from Raphael, he was in his body. He wasn’t hiding behind someone else, or a blinding light. He was in his own body, facing another person. When he was in his own body, he ran away. He hides himself and even went as far as hiding behind someone else’s body to hide himself. There is no way Michael would be happy with himself. We learn that after the war, he felt immense guilt. If Father has any role in his insecure behavior, that might play a huge factor in his self loathing behavior. He is an insecure character, which is obvious. Never once showing himself, and ultimately running off when he did. This is insecure behavior on the surface. But, if one were to look between the lines, it can be seen as self loathing.
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Reading Between the Lines
When you delve deeper into each of our interactions with Michael, and what other characters say, his behavior could teeter on the self loathing side of things. This mainly stems from 3 things:
•Hiding himself every time we meet him
• The Ring of Light vs. The Ring of Wisdom
•Physically running away from conflict
If anything, the first and the third have potential to be related to each other. Michael hiding himself might be him avoiding conflict. Maybe conflict with his siblings, or even with God. Which leads to the second idea: Favoritism. God may have been the stepping stone leading to Michael’s self hatred. He favored Lucifer, and even though it’s said Michael is God’s most “loyal” he still favored Lucifer because he was (potentially still is) God’s definition of perfection.
Michael, God’s most loyal angel; the one who doesn’t question his father’s authority . . . isn’t the favorite? Being insanely loyal and devoting your life to someone, only to be pushed aside for your sibling that fell from grace. An entire war broke out, and everything fell on Michael. The blame, anguish, pain, and regret of the battle. The deaths and the loss of siblings had to have taken a toll on Michael as well, not only the demons brothers. Imagine that: choosing between the God you devoted your life to, or the family you love dearly. It’s not an easy decision to make.
The loss of siblings, favoritism, and the blame.
Michael was blamed for the brothers falling from grace. Sure, our focus should be on the brothers and how they dealt with it. But when we meet Angels, they always show remorse and regret of what happened. One major example I can think of is Raphael dreaming of the brothers returning to the Celestial Realm. Raphael, Michael’s closest confidant, wishes they were back in the Celestial Realm. If Raphael wishes that, imagine what Michael wants?
When everything is added together, Michael doesn’t sound like a villain. He sounds like another victim. I wouldn’t be shocked if characters in game also view him as some sort of villain, which would contribute to Self-Loathing behavior in Michael.
Michael and God
Something I’ll bring up in a future post is: Michael being God’s most loyal angel, yet not being the favorite. This isn’t proven, but it really just begs the question of: “Why?” I get it, the most loyal don’t always have to be the favorite, but still. Lucifer was (most likely) made in God’s image of perfection. Yet, most believe that Michael is the eldest.
So, why not make Michael the definition of perfection? Why not make him the most beautiful thing to exist? Why make him the most loyal, if loyalty isn’t included in your definition of perfection? It just continues to bring up the same question: “Why?” If Michael is the eldest, why not start out with making him perfect? If he’s supposed to be your most loyal angel, why isn’t loyalty included in your image of perfection? Why is it that the one that fell from your grace, is the one you consider to be prefect? Lucifer fell. Say all you want about him, but he fell from God’s grace. Yet, it’s still mentioned that he’s the Morningstar. What about Michael? The one who stood by God’s side, the one who still obeys him, doesn’t make the cut when it comes to perfection. It shouldn’t be that the one who fell from God’s is still the Morningstar. Yeah, sure, Lucifer’s name means “bearer of light”, but Michael’s name means, “who is like god?” To me, Michael’s name should mean more to God. But, it doesn’t seem that way. Only the Morningstar matters to everyone. But again,“Why? Why is Lucifer the one everyone talks about? Why not Michael? Why doesn’t Michael have a nickname like Lucifer? Why did Michael have to take on the burden of casting out his own siblings? Why couldn’t God do it? He’s literally God. Why did his children have to fight a battle for rebelling against rules he made? Why couldn’t God step in? Why did it have to be Michael?
Why?
It continues to bring up the same question over and over again. Yet, there are no answers. Michael took the burden of casting out his family, not God. The war was most likely caused by God not wanting Lilith’s actions to go unpunished. So why not have him handle the situation? Why let a full fledged war break out when he could’ve easily stepped in? What did God do? Did he sit back on his throne and watch everything play out? Did he expect something terrible to come out of it? Did he know? He’s God, he made everything. Does that mean he knew what would happen because it’s how he created it? If God has made any actions at all; were they intentional?
This just makes me ask more questions.
Lucifer fell from God’s grace, yet he’s God’s definition and image of perfection. Michael stood by his side, he stood loyal; yet he isn’t included in God’s image of perfection. If loyalty isn’t included in what makes one perfect in God’s eyes, then what is? Sin? Falling from Heaven? There’s no way. I get it, it was for his sister. But is that version of loyalty and love more important to God? So much more important that Lucifer is still praised for being the Morningstar while his most loyal angel and soldier sits on the sidelines; him too, believing that Lucifer is absolutely perfect. It doesn’t make sense.
The unexplained lore about the CR is scratching my brain in all the bad yet good ways.