#mlp grogar

[to-headmare-twilight]

Told you I was gonna redraw this old man

Godhood is a funny thing in this world, honestly.

In this AU, Discord never pulled the "haha I'm only pretending to be Grogar!" thing from Season Nine, but if he did, he'd look like my original drawing of Grogar. The fool just forgot a few teeeeeeeny tiny details:

Also, for those interested, here's four instrumental theme songs I associate with Grogar: one, two, three and four :]

[winterpower98]

*breaks down the door*

DID SOMEONE ASK FOR MORE VILLAINS

Did not realize that I would have the most fun redesigning the villains of this show and yet Flim, Flam, and Dr Caballeron were the easiest. I already wanted to change Flim and Flam's cutie marks because I thought the og ones didn't make much sense, but it was one of my friends who suggested adding the cards to make it look like they are cheating at poker. While Caballeron (why does he even have a doctor title??) gave me the vibes of a villain from Lara Croft and Tomb Raiders, so I leaned into that as much as possible, so that's why he has a prosthetic leg and hoof (the green one). The Sphinx, on the other hand, pissed me off the most. Much like the hippogriffin and hippocampus, the show just took two monsters with the same name and put them together. THAT'S RIGHT, THERE'S MORE THAN ONE TYPE OF SPHINX. The Roman Sphinx has wings, while the Egyptian one does not. But the show gave this Sphinx Roman wings and Egyptian-esque clothes! So, since I know she's appeared alongside Subnambula (by the way, already designed her, because I am insane), I made her egyptian. So the only wings she has now are ornamental. In comparison, tho! The show's version of Ahuizotl is surprisingly close to the mythological one. So most of my research went into the types of "clothes" and jewels he would wear. Now, Grogar has a pretty fine design, but I wanted to give him more of a monster feel (especially since the wiki says he is the father of all monsters), so I gave him more fanged teeth and two sets of horns, Satan style. Lastly, there's Cosmos, and I find her so cool. I didn't change anything from her design because I think it's pretty good! She was just fun to draw.

Rest of the redesigns

[z3b]

[fakerzu]

Fakerverse Headcanons pt.2

First part/Next part

In my mind, all of this made more sense 🫠 tried to cook, but I feel like I burned the kitchen down.

Anyway, a few notes:

In Fakeverse, every magical creature has a cutie mark, not just ponies. It's theorized that animals and plants also have them, but unlike the others, they fade completely once the bond is broken.

It's rare, but it can happen that more than two bearers gets cutie marks together.

A bearer with a faded mark is not incapable of performing magic, but the action becomes more unstable and tiring for them due to the excess of chaos.

I promise, I'll organize this better eventually,,

[wiingdings]

part 4 of my mlp au/rewrite concept sketches, equestria origins time

part 1 / part 2 / part 3

[tbob-enthusiast]

Hi! I’m the anon that asked those questions about Thorax last week. I got a few more questions.

I know Oppi said that Thorax is too big for her to eat him but like, how come? Can’t her hive just kidnap him and eat him later? Wouldn’t a bigger size mean a grander meal. Out of all the changelings he probably has the most love. Is his shell too hard to be bitten into? Even if they couldn’t eat him why leave him alive. The hive wouldn’t have a leader anymore, and I don’t think Twilight would keen on letting Chrysalis rule again.

Other than making him suffer I don’t see why leaving him alive would be favorable. Dead or alive his allies would be coming after her so why not just kill him when you have the chance? Was she planning to come back next year and do it all over again? Probably won’t be as effective. Don’t get me wrong, he’s my favorite character and I’m glad that he’s alive and I also love angst, but like is making someone suffer all that great if it could potentially bite you in the butt in the future? It doesn’t look he was fatally injured, just traumatized and SAed(implied( ew,I hope karma gets her, cause that and eating the eggs is just vile and unredeemable, in my eyes at least)).

Whether on not Thorax would come after her because of what she did, shouldn’t she at least consider that? Even if she didn’t kill him, why didn’t she fatally injure him to the point where he couldn’t hurt her even if he wanted to?

Off topic but what creatures did Grogar create? I know discord’s one of them, but did he create Tirek, or the changelings? I’ve always wondered what constituted as a monster in the show.

Ok, I genuinely didn’t expect this to be long. I started off with two questions in mind 😓.

AWWW WELCOME BACK :DD

I love questions, dude, please don't even stop /lighthearted. So long as you're alright with my long-winded answers...

The conversation ahead gets rather dark, so beware of that (I'm talking kidnapping, slavery, r-pe, and literal baby-eating + cannibalism... any parallel to real life events are purely coincidental, of course... It's not like I made her as a parody of real live people in a position of power or anything................ /ironic).

To start off: Oppi meant "too big" in the sense of "too mature"/"too old". She's not looking to eat a mature Queen, because her food source is the brood of said queens! That's actually the reason why she always spares changelings of Hives she attacks: so they can continue to care for their queen and repopulate in the future.

Truth be told, I might even rework Coroptera to be worse than she currently is. But no promises, tbh. I'm trying to think of the narrative... mmm. It's hard, haha.

What I mean by this is that the current Oppi works like this: she attacks a Hive, drains and stores Love from 70-80% of said Hive's changelings (mostly the warriors; often killing them in the process), drains the eggs, and cocoons the larva (<- travel snacks...). She leaves behind the Queen she attacked and 20-30% of her changelings (always workers) so they can care for that Queen and restart the cycle.

She acts like a seasonal hunter, man. She's gotta hunt, then leave her targets alone for a while so they repopulate and she can hunt again. Usually the attacked Hive takes 2-5 years to rebuild under the same Queen, OR the attacked Hive disbands (changelings leave the attacked Queen for another). Either way a new Hive will form and Oppi can feed again another day.

Oppi's ability makes her subjects be able to get a lot more "juice" outta their victims, and every changeling can make cocoons that preserve Love extremely well, so each attack gets them enough Love to last about 8-12 months of sustenance, on average. Thorax's Hive was an outlier, and Oppi gained enough Love to keep her Swarm sustained for about two years and a half 😭.

If I were to change Oppi, I would make her attack Thorax's Hive the way she usually does: drain, store, let them repopulate... but after figuring out how Thorax's Hive, specifically, works, she'd change her mind. Think with me: Thorax is an incredibly unique type of changeling that produces love within his own shell. It would be far more profitable for Oppi to keep him and his subjects alive (and cocooned) to be used as cattle (like cows for milk or chickens for eggs), instead of letting them free to repopulate on their own. Thus, my idea for an Oppi rework, is for her to take over Thorax's Hive instead of taking his grubs and fleeing.

This means cocooning everyone and keeping Thorax on a metaphorical leash to use him and his subjects as-- well. Yeah.

This of course would mean that Twilight and the others would find her and need to deal with her much sooner than I originally imagined, but honestly I rather like this idea.

Oppi is also a really interesting character to me because she's in the perfect position to present an expected question to the premise I'm making: "does someone like Queen Coroptera deserve redemption?". That's for my Twilight to figure out. Heh. She's like Valentino to Charlie, now that I think of it.

Also, he's an image I don't think I've ever shared. I've debated on whether or not to post this for a long time... she is pretty despicable, man.

As for Grogar: I've realized I made a mistake in his reference sheet which I will be fixing as soon as I can. I believe he did not create Discord, or Accord for that matter; instead he is an equal to Discord and Accord; arcane gods and all that. I shall make a proper post on it sometime.

He created the Ancestors of everything we currently know: Ancient Dragons, Ponies, Yaks, Changelings... "Monsters", "Creatures", it all falls into the same category. Ponies are categorized as Monsters Made By Grogar, man. They evolved to the creatures we know today. Little remains from Grogar's history or the Grogarian Era, but some bits of dark, arcane magic and legends still poke through ever now and then.

In fact, Elder Sendak made it his life's work to seek, translate and practice old magic of the Grogarian Era. Tirek's "Magic Drain" spell is originated from Grogar's influence.

Really, does no one else get bothered by how Canon Grogar's Bell and Tirek's power set are basically the same? The Bell takes, stores and gives away raw magic; Tirek does the same thing. The difference is that any magic that Tirek eats is transformed into his magical signature/aura (the yellow-orange color of his magic), whereas the Bell maintains the individual signature/aura of anything it consumes (Discord's Chaos Magic, the Princesses' Alicorn Magic, etc).

That's kind of why I've mildly reworked my Grogar's Bell: he also drains others, but he does it far more aggressively. The worst thing Tirek can do is drain a pony of their cutie mark, making them lethargic and weak, but overall they can still survive; Grogar's Bell drains you to a husk in seconds until you crumble into dust. You basically get Thanos Snapped. Fun! The magic he took from you will be used to create new life later.

My pantheon is still in the works, to be honest, but my idea is that there are four major Gods in the world (only Three are majorly known because Grogar is often mischaracterized in history books as a Legend, a Warlord or Powerful Creature rather than a God). Those are Root of Harmony, Root of Evil, Spirit of Chaos and Spirit of Order: Root, Grogar, Discord and Accord respectively.

The concept of "twin opposites", as I call them, apply. Two gods have essentially the same domain, but are so opposite to each other that they cannot exist at the same time: they share a body and only come out under specific circumstances.

If there is too much Order in the world, Discord comes out (that is why we only ever see Discord in the show: Equestria is too orderly. They handmake their seasons, their climate, their world...). If there's too much Chaos, Accord comes in to fix it. Usually this happens willingly: if Discord feels bored, he goes to sleep and Accord takes over; if Accord feels content with his work, he goes to sleep and Discord takes over, and the cycle goes on forever and ever...

Root and Grogar work in a similar way, but no one knows exactly how. (<- That's code for "I'm not telling you any more spoilers!")

That way, there's always two gods working at the same time, be it Accord and Grogar; Accord and Root; Discord and Grogar or Discord and Root.

Accord is associated with Time and Space, Discord is associated with Shapes and Forms (Matter), whereas Root and Grogar are associated to the Mind. Grogar is just more fond of instincts, desires, free will while Root is more fond of emotions, free thinking and harmony. Grogar begins, Root maintains, Grogar ends and starts anew. Cycle restarts... Accord begins, Discord changes, Accord returns and starts anew. Cycle restarts...

Fun fact: the planet in which Equestria exists in was created by Accord and Grogar.

Fun fact 2: these guys SUCK at coexisting. That's kind of why Root's/Grogar's magic and Discord's/Accord's magic don't mix (see Elements of Harmony hitting Discord, or Plunder Seeds on Tree of Harmony)

[saharholi]

Otro rediseño de la g1, grogar como una oveja de Jacob (mas o menos)

Con un poquito de inspiración en baby Wooly y un intento de cutiemark

[sugar-pink-poison]

Mlp G5 au/rewrite where the Mane Six are sealed inside the Elements of Harmony

Opaline isn't the main villain, it's (actual) Grogar instead. Hundreds of years ago he began draining magic from not only the ponies but the land too. The Mane Six give their very souls to the Elements to seal him away in a pocket dimension and to stabilise the very small amounts of magic left.

But Grogar didn't go down that easily, dragging them and Opaline, first daughter of Twilight Sparkle, into his prison realm where he plots to return and cause widespread destruction and despair.

Without the Elements finishing their job, magic has significantly reduced and very few ponies are born with the ability to use it. The tribes don't separate but the towns and pockets of civilization become increasingly isolationist as the natural world takes over and ponies can no longer safely travel far.

Meanwhile, Opaline is kept prisoner and obedient by Grogar threatening to smash the Elements, singling out the Element of Magic. She complies since she has no other choice and just wants to survive long enough to escape.

Misty, as one of the very small amounts of ponies born with inner magic, accidentally sends herself to the prison dimension when accidentally resonating with the remaining traces of the sealing spell. Opaline takes the lonely unicorn in in secret.

Grogar eventually finds out a few years later and attempts to use the Elements to open the now weak seal between worlds but Opaline manages to throw them to Misty and tells her to run before Grogar gets her, the last Misty sees of Opaline for a very long time is her fear and desperation as the portal collapses.

Misty gets attacked running through the woods by Grogars minions who managed to slip through and drops the Elements in the river, where they drift to the far corners of Equestria.

After a month of being tossed around in a cold river, Twilight awakens in the gem to the curious snout of Sunny, freaking her out when her sort-of-but-not-really-ghost idol talks to her. It's up to Sunny to find the other Elements of Harmony, with Twilight as her incorporeal spirit guide, rescue Opaline from Grogars prison dimension and uncover what happened to Misty.

She's going to need some very dependable friends, and luckily for her she has Twilight Sparkle to guide her in the right direction.

Optional additional:

The new Mane Six and their Elements have slightly different names

•Starscout-Trust

•Trailblazer-Sincerity

•Indigo Moonbow-Joy

•Snowflower-Intuition

•Snowstorm-Courage

•Misty Dawn-Compassion