"...and Manousos, who's struggling in the middle of the jungle—he doesn't have anything, and yet he has a purpose...[T]alking about the contrast between Carol's and Manousos's situations and how they are...I just started thinking, 'This show has so many layers that you can read into.' This, for me, was like a commentary on how we've been taught that happiness is in things that we get outside yourself. Like happiness is exogenous, where I think it's endogenous. And this guy has something in himself—a purpose that he has—and that fills his life, that pulls him through the jungle, through the chunga, through the whole thing..." — Carlos-Manuel Vesga on Manousos's epic journey in Pluribus 1.07