#nbphobia cw

[just-antithings]

Saw someone being a jackass on one of our posts and sure enough, they had this gem as their pinned post. There’s a lot to unpack here, but let’s go ahead and throw away the entire suitcase

[transedwarp]

time to talk about adira’s identity being misrepresented on memory alpha 🙃 my Thoughts™ are under the cut

as far as i know, adira was initially listed as female on memory alpha, and that wasn’t changed after they came out as nonbinary in s3:e8. mods have elected to remove the gender category entirely rather than represent their nonbinary identity correctly (although some masked crusader has edited the sidebar and adira is currently listed as nonbinary). reading the mods’ responses, they reveal a juvenile (and possibly intentional) misunderstanding of what gender is, as well as willful ignorance regarding certain information from canon.

two mods claim that the gender category has always been used to describe “physiology.” i’m assuming this is their polite way of saying sex assignment or sex characteristics. this is a pretty dubious argument to make, as 1) gender is in no way related to “physiology” and 2) even if that category was being used to describe an aspect of the character’s sex, one of the mods points out that trek has “never showed anyone’s vagina or penis.” we can’t confidently identify the sex assignment of most characters in trek—and why would we want to? if the information isn’t there, why are we obsessed with sussing out a definitive answer? if it isn’t explicitly revealed in canon, there really isn’t a reason to speculate about a character’s sex assignment on their bio, and it’s inaccurate to label that kind of information with “gender.”

in adira’s case, their sex assignment, as well as their assigned gender at birth, is never stated in canon. adira could be amab, afab, intersex—all we know is that the crew of discovery assume that they use she/her pronouns until they come out to stamets. one of the mods takes this as evidence that they were assigned female at birth. but the only thing this tells us is either people are still assuming pronouns based on certain standards of presentation in the 23rd/32nd centuries, or that adira was asked about their pronouns offscreen and decided to use she/her until they became more comfortable with the crew. neither of these possibilities have any bearing on their sex assignment or their agab. in fact, we have much more concrete information about adira’s gender than we do about their sex: adira explicitly states that they use they/them pronouns, and that they don’t identify with a binary gender. they don’t pull out a specific label for their identity, but their description falls under the nonbinary umbrella.

despite the mods’ apparent obsession with “physiology,” there really is no justification for continuing to list adira as female or to neglect their nonbinary identity. removing the gender category is a choice to omit canon information, and an important aspect of the identity of these characters. and while i don’t think it should be removed, the gender category has needed updating. if a character’s gender identity is stated—as is the case with adira, who describes themself as nonbinary, and with spock, who describes himself as male—then it should be included. if that information isn’t available, then there shouldn’t be a need to fill that category with speculation based on presentation, pronouns, or assumptions of sex assignment.

there are going to be quite a few different points of view on this, but i think the solution here is to have three categories in the sidebar: “sex,” “gender,” and “pronouns.” when information about any of these things is unavailable, it should be ommitted. in adira’s case, their sex would be unlisted, their gender listed as nonbinary and their pronouns listed as they/them. to use spock as another example, his sex would be listed as male (we’ve seen his birth), his gender listed as male (he describes himself as male in “amok time”), and his pronouns as he/him (these are the only pronouns we’ve seen used for him). i doubt memory alpha would go this route, as it seems like the mods are having trouble with the concept of gender in the first place, but this is the clearest presentation of relevant information regarding sex and gender that i can think of.

[suriandtaal]

god i hate talking about gender in health class im genuinely 2 seconds from just going SILENCE WENCH at these fuckers

[cricket-heart]

I heard things about the Arc/ana series being nbphobic and possibly transphobic? Can someone a bit more experienced tell me about it or lead me to a link that does? I'm frankly confused...

[spookymoonmagpie]

*Deep sigh* Recently joined a leftist Discord gc set up by a mate so I could find good sources and theory and learn how to debate. Then that happens.

Loada ol shite. Mags is not happy.

[tordedd]

also stop with the fucking shitty he/they jokes. it shows yall love to shit on transmasc people and nonbinary people any chance yall get. yall are outright making nbphobic and transphobic jokes and not giving a shit cause yall love to dunk on transmasc people and nonbinary people any chance yall get

[fictionkinfessionsarchived]

This fandom can get Very annoying. They need to quit erasing the fact that Crowley and I were genderless. It’s still queer, just not what they want. -Aziraphale

[fictionkinfessionsarchived]

im angry about nbphobia and excited about bright colours thats right its davepetasprite time nyall B33 (and i say trans rights!!!)