#og ymir

[memes-soul-dna]

Me convincing myself, that good things will still happen to the cast.

[cidsideral]

the only way to stop me is by ending my life.

you are free to do so.

-Eren Jaeger, ch. 133: SINNERS. 

i wonder if he’ll really be murdered. if so, i think mikasa will be the one to do it, but i’m not sure. could be armin too. 

[0aurelion-sol0]

Ah! Interesting parallels you got there Isayama ? Are you trying to tell us something ?

Ymir holds a leaf reminding us that just like Armin and his memories, Historia sees Ymir as one of the things that are worth experiencing in this life. No matter how cruel it is.

Just like what drove Eren and Armin pre-timeskip, that no matter how much obstacles was on their way. They still has their dream of seeing the ocean and exploring the world together. Just like Historia and Ymir were supposed to live together without anyone telling them they should never have been born.

Isayama ?! Are you trying to tell us something while not telling us that thing ?!

[momtaku]

Do you think isayama managed to accurately portray abuse relationships between ymir fritz and the king? I read some comments from japanese translators saying something along the lines of how it's strongly emphasized as love(?)

Like a lot of things in the final arc, OG Ymir's story could've used more time and development. It suffered from the same rushed pace and uneven development as the rest of the story. But when viewed independent of that, what we got was solid.

From what I can tell, the people who complain about OG Ymir's story do so not because they think the depiction of an abusive relationship was bad, but because the resolution involved Mikasa and they'd wanted something else. It was the reveal about Mikasa that they hated, not the idea that Ymir loved King Fritz. But people who hated the ending tended not to let any moments slide and so the information about OG Ymir became more to complain about.

Look, I'm not saying it's great, but the chapter with Ymir's backstory (122) holds the distinction of being the #1 ranked chapter in our poll. The depiction of a traumatized child slave who quite literally stumbled into massive power yet continued to dutifully served her abuser seems to have been understood. The majority of the fandom felt sympathy for Ymir. The concepts of Stockholm Syndrome and traumatic bonding were discussed.

People were also very excited to see Eren champion her.

"You're no slave. You're no God. You're just a person. You don't need to server anyone. You can be the one to choose."

It felt like a return to the Eren we remembered.

I don't see how the final chapter undid any of that. Eren still worked to free her. He worked to end the titan curse that she was perpetuating. But what I love about the reveal is that it wasn't just Eren or Mikasa freeing her. It's was OG Ymir freeing herself.

That's the part I wish people focused on. OG Ymir spent 2000 years working to get out of an abusive relationship. She maneuvered the situation with Eren and Mikasa to make that happen. She worked towards a means of escape. And I think that message is a solid one.

People in abusive relationships often love their abusers. This isn't shocking to anyone who has read about or spoken to abuse survivors. It's a significant part of what makes getting out of those relationships so difficult.

To answer your question in simplest terms, do I think Isayama managed to accurately portray an abusive relationships between ymir fritz and the king? Yes. He did a great job of that in 122. Did the emphasis on "love" bother me? No because I don't think Isayama tried to romanticize the relationship in anyway. He portrayed it as disgusting and horrifying. He depicted OG Ymir as a victim of abuse who was desperately trying to get away. Could he have done that better? Of course. Was it good enough? I think yes.

I hope this makes sense. Thanks for the ask!

[sucubuss-art]

Is that the destroyer or the creator? ¶ Ymir, The Founder.

t w i t t e r : sucubuss_art

[nobluesea]

Ymir lived a life of blind servitude but in this one page she actually had an agency of her own. She probably empathized with the caged pigs and acted on that empathy. This just proves that one theory about each of the nine Titans being an aspect of Ymir. She certainly knew what freedom was but had never claimed it for herself.

[takanova12]

I might have been overthinking stuff, possibly because the end is so near and I am getting impatient. I don't know how I feel about it as of now but it just occured to me and I decided to put it out there.

Zeke said he couldn't understand why in spite of all her strength founder ymir stayed obedient to king fritz. I am familiar with the concept of learned helplessness, still what if besides that there was something else at play?

I am not going for love will save the world or something like that. Maybe something along those lines but not that simple.

Because when zeke talks about ymir felt some connection to the world she left behind, we are shown this moment when a newly wed couple captured her attention. It's a moment of affection and love.

Despite being treated horribly and being so strong, ymir could never defy king fritz why? Zeke couldn't understand that. I hate to say this but what if ymir felt some sort of affection for king fritz or expected from him? What if that is what prevented her from acting aganist him? What if she never saw any other moment of human connection in her life apart from that newly wed pair sharing an intimate moment and what if she wanted something like that for herself because she had never known anything else? Ymir is also presented as someone who is a good girl, so a good girl would always stay quiet and obey orders right? But ymir still freed the pigs so it's possible she didn't just stay obedient to king fritz because she was supposed to be a good girl.

Mikasa is the strongest soldier right now, yet she can't bring herself to kill eren. I am not saying mikasa is like ymir. But what if mikasa is able to show ymir that you can love someone deeply, yet be able to stand aganist them.

Armin said ymir wants something from them. What if zeke and armin partly fulfilled that desire and that is why she helped them. She saw that edlians and marelyans can be united and decided to give them a chance. What if mikasa can show her that feeling connected to someone doesn't mean that you have to give up your agency. You can care for someone, yet be able to stand up for yourself. We know mikasa doesn't agree with eren a single bit, yet she can't bring herself to fight him. And I don't blame her, neither do I expect her to be ready for it. But if she is in a situation where she absolutely must then she should. Because the world is a cruel place, but it's also beautiful. And that is mikasa ackerman and snk for you in a nutshell.

Thanks for reading my crackpot theory.

[sa-tou]

Just saying

So wait if Ymir took the spear to her heart and chose to die instead of living with King Fritz, didn’t she end her cycle of “being in love” right there? Just saying she chose death over KF, or maybe I’m trying to make sense of a subplot that just can’t be made sense of