#othertalk

[kinstincts]

Hello!

I'm very new to the otherkin community, so I'm not familiar with all the terminology yet, but I do believe I'm Vampirekin.

At the moment, I'm overwhelmed that I dont have fangs, and that I must go out in the daylight. My human body isn't sensitive to it, but it does have sensory issues. I'm just not sure how to go about this? I just dont *look* how i should. Do you have any advice?

I believe they tend to mostly just call themselves vampyres and specify if they're sanguine or energy (or both.)

Fangs are easy--Scarecrow brand is usually the best and cheapest. You could even spend money to get custom ones from various fangsmiths. However I would very much suggest directly asking your dentist if they would be willing to use dental composite to give you fangs. It is the least intrusive method, removable, and usually only around a few hundred dollars. Which may seem like a lot but it's worth it. Downside to composite is that it's also the most breakable, BUT your dentist can simply replace it. From what I've heard this runs about $300 give or take, and due to it being cosmetic you can't go through insurance.

Other options include veneers and crowns but these methods require damaging the underlying tooth in order to affix them.

As for sunlight issues, my best advice is to embrace your inner goth lol

Covering up, wearing sunglasses, and everyone looks mysterious and fancy with a parasol. Make sure that you're getting the amount of vitamin d you need though if you aren't getting it from the sun.

The vampyre community feels a tad different to me than general otherkin spaces. I would say to pick up The Psychic Vampire Codex. It's great for energy work (and even sanguine vampires turn to energy absorption when they can't get blood.)

NOVA is the New Orleans Vampire Association, and they have a group on Facebook. I'm sure there are other groups but this is the one I am familiar with where you may be able to find resources. You also don't have to be from New Orleans to join.

Piercing the Darkness by Katherine Ramsland is one book I've seen recommended although I haven't looked into it myself.

Here is an archive recipe of Zaar's not-blood. Tastes like it, apparently, and he uses it to satiate himself when blood isn't available. Zaar runs NOVA I believe and has been around for ages. If you've ever seen a video about New Orleans vampires, it's likely you've seen him.

TheSanguinarium.com and Father Sebastian might be things to look into, as I know he runs a group (religion? coven?) and has written books, although in the back of my mind I feel like I've read that he may be problematic but I have no idea what for or if I'm confusing him for another fangsmith, SO proceed with caution and read up on him.

Hope this helps!

[kinstincts]

Hi there I have no intent on making you or your followers feel bad and disrespect your beliefs, I'm just curious how can your 'kin' be discovered and if it's something like a roleplaying game or it's something that you truly believe in?

First of all I am a pagan and a polytheist and I have some spiritual experience . From what I researched and found out from my spiritual guides and guardians it's true that humans can have a non human origin ( angel, fairy, elves etc.) but animals cannot be born in human bodies due to them not possessing a higher self ( your soul in its true form that exists as en entity in the spirit realm). Animals do have a spirit body but when they die Gaia ( earth's energy) absorbs them and then puts them into a different body of the same species.

The souls humans have are more complex and do live a separate life in the spirit realm as a body made of energy/light.

Another thing is that shape shifters are an incredibly rare non human core one can have, a few cases worldwide , so I doubt they are all here on tumblr.

I'm not judging those who want body modifications but they aren't necessary, if they identify as an angel they already have the wings attached to their astral body. It's just a bit sad that they want to reject their human form or see it as hideous when they can have both. Their ' true form ' is there and can be seen by someone who possesses clairvoyant abilities , they still look like whatever entity they identify with , but for now they live as a human.

As I said I don't want to laugh at you or destroy your fun , you are not hurting anyone with some posts on the internet but I'm curious if something spiritual has gone into the process of finding out your origins? Most of one's behaviour and thoughts come from the ego persona which has dealt with different traumas, situations , born into a specific culture with different traditions so this isn't a reliable source since it cannot match 100% to your' true self '.

...There is a lot to unpack here. I am going to assume that you are very new to the otherkin and pagan communities and you are asking genuinely. I'm sorry if any of this comes off as harsh, I'm not trying to be.

First of all, no, otherkin is not a roleplaying thing, although I suppose it's possible that some people discover their affinities through the act of roleplaying (the energetic vampyre community more or less grew out of Vampire: The Masquerade, for example. This doesn't mean they're just roleplaying, it simply means that by being able to take on a certain persona, they were able to discover a piece about themselves. Much like how crossplay can often lead to people discovering things about their gender. [And I say this as a trans person.])

Secondly, YOUR belief that animals can not have a "higher self" is YOUR belief. Just because your "spirit guides" have "told" you this does not mean they are correct. The first step to understanding other people's points of view is understanding that what they believe in may not match up with what you perceive as "true", especially when it comes to things of esoteric or metaphysical nature. You are very much sounding like Christians who are 100% certain that their beliefs are true, that other people who believe something else are just mistaken. Speaking as a Pagan: stop trying to force your view of other people into a box that you have created. Your beliefs may be true to you but they definitely are not the absolute fact.

....And I want to know, genuinely, if you go up to people who are getting their ears pierced or a tattoo and tell them that their body modifications are not necessary. Because frankly, and pardon my language here, but telling somebody that a body modification they want that will make them feel more at home in their bodies, (or for ANY reason, actually--we don't need a reason to get a body modification)-- is fucking rude.

Getting body mods is not a rejection of your natal body.

My body is a temple that I will decorate how I see fit.

Accusing people of wanting to get mods because they hate their bodies is disgusting and ill-informed. I hear the same crap from transphobes who don't want me to take HRT because they've deluded themselves into thinking I hate my body.

I love my body. I think I look amazing. But I would feel more like myself with HRT. I would feel more like myself with fangs. I would feel more like mys'elf if there were a way to grow more arms, wings, and a tail. (Unfortunately not a possible modification, but that's what costumes are for.) And I feel more like myself with two tongues! Splitting my tongue was the best decision I've ever made in my life! And it had nothing to do with hating myself or my body!

There are other people much more equipped to dealing with the rest of your questions. I'm not a thinker, I don't really care about the philosophies or the hows or whys of otherkin and therians. I just know what I am and I take people for their word about what they are, and stress that it's okay to not know also. Because who the hell am I to tell anyone else what they are?

I don't go into the tags much anymore and I've lost a lot of the really good blogs who have done deep dives into otherkin culture, but I believe @aestherians has a lot of really great resources.

Sorry if this came off as harsh. People in the body modification community--and trans people--of which I am both--get told ALL THE TIME that we're "mutilating our bodies" and that we should "just accept your natural body and quit hating yourself" and I'm not one to sugar coat my feelings towards that mindset. It's triggering and I'm sorry if my irritation came off as an attack, but it's a frankly harmful mindset, full stop. Furthermore, some cultures have beliefs that tattoos and other modifications give them spiritual powers and have deeper meanings. So already, your ignorance shows that you have a lot to learn when it comes to body modification specifically. Body modification is a beautiful thing that has roots in many different cultures, and has been practiced for centuries.

I'm hoping that my language hasn't deterred you from wanting to learn further or ask questions.

[kinstincts]

heyyy do you have any advice for a questioning vampire? i've had a couple fictotypes for a few years, and i'm no stranger to questioning. but for this, i can't do my usual thing because there's no specific source material for me to sift through. thanks in advance!

I'm personally more knowledgeable about the vampyre community vs vampirekin, so I'm not sure how helpful this may be.

But honestly, there are plenty of "source" materials for you to draw from. Folklore, for starters. Vampire legends have existed throughout the world in various cultures, and from there, you have a whole PLETHORA of media inspired by it that has created a general idea of what vampires are and do, and that of course further vary from media to media.

What do we know about vampires?

They require blood of a living being to survive. I think that's the bare minimum requirement, although psi vampyres are able to satisfy this need through energy work.

Other common lore is that they can't go out in the sun, and have a weakness to silver (which is why their reflections can't be seen in mirrors of old, but since mirrors aren't backed by silver anymore they would technically be able to see them. A lot of movies don't care about this fact and make it any reflective surface.) And of course, daywalkers like Blade exist.

Hope this helps get you started! Feel free to check out my other post on vampires.

[kinstincts]

can i get some help? i'm nonhuman and struggle a lot with my identifiably human form; my skin color, eyes, tongue, even the length of my fingers causes me discomfort. right now i'm covering up and layering because i can't think of what else to do. i should have colorless skin, black eyes, multiple tongues and sharp teeth, and my form should be lanky/easily manipulated and not noticeably humanoid. thanks so much!

Some of these are achievable through body modification.

Tongue bifurcation, even if you feel like you should have more than two, I believe would help with this sensation immensely. My tongue split has been my favorite body modification so far. (Note: more than 2 tongues for a split is not possible, as the human tongue only has 2 muscles that are held together by other tissue. Any cuts further into those muscles would severely damage them.)

You can ask your dentist if they are willing to give you fangs, for example. I have an appointment very soon with my own for dental composite fangs (this is the cheapest option that will not damage your teeth, and is removable. There are more permanent options, such as crowns and veneers as well.) You can ask if they would be willing to add it to more than just your canines, but you must keep in mind that this will affect your bite. Even with canine extension for fangs.

A less permanent option would be to invest in grills, or contact a fangsmith to see if they would be willing to more than just canines. You could also buy a bunch of Scarecrow brand fangs and mold them to whatever teeth you want sharpened. This is the cheapest option (but don't expect to eat with them of course.)

As for eyes, the ONLY suggestion I will give is to see an eye doctor and have your eyes fitted for contact lenses, and invest in scleral lenses. Eye "tattoos" are not safe and most people have reported vision loss or sensitivity, and many have completely lost their vision or even their entire eyes. NO reputable body mod artist will do this procedure as there are NO safe ways of doing it. Even Luna Cobra has botched people's eyes.

Colorless skin, I suppose I don't really have any suggestion for this aside from tattoos that may mimic the structures underneath.

As for lankiness, I don't really have anything there either. Gary Fay Creations creates very cool finger extension costume pieces and has released a popsicle stick tutorial for anyone who feels crafty and cannot afford the plastic versions. [LINK]

For manipulation, honing your own flexibility is the best course of action for this. Looking up exercises for contortion beginners practice is a good start.

Hope this helps!

[kinstincts]

Hi there! Maybe a weird question, but I'm having trouble figuring out a direction to go in life. I am a canine therian, wolfdog specifically, and im wondering if you had any... career ideas?

Forest ranger, perhaps? Or working in parks or nature reserves. It's not glamorous, but I think it's rewarding. I believe many state parks and such provide housing as well.

Though, I would recommend this for any therian looking to reconnect with nature.

Doggy daycares or dog walking might be a good fit as well! If you want something wolfdog specific, perhaps you could look into wolfdog sanctuaries and see if there are any career options there.

Hope this helps!

[kinstincts]

hiya! just a Homesick coyotekin here. do you have any tips/ideas to help with species dysphora? mine isnt too severe, luckily, mostly just a sense of things not being correct! Anything ranging from clothing to things like physical items would be helpful if you have any ideas! I'm not looking for any body mods, but those would be pretty interesting to hear about if you have the time. :eyes: thank you so so much! feel free to ignore this ask.

When it comes to theriotypes with fur, there are a few routes you can go. Depending on how you feel about pelts, you could always look for one to invest in for wearing purposes (a lot of people sell hanging pelts, which may not be up to the quality for frequent touching, though you can also find ones for """"headdress"""" wearing purposes.)

Getting a jacket that's either faux fur or lined with faux fur may be cozy--or even a blanket made out of it. Some fabric stores have some pretty decent faux furs actually, so if you're a crafty person, you could possibly make arm warmers or other things yourself. (I'm sure this may also be an option on etsy.)

Here is a tutorial on how to attach tails so that it will give you the sensation of having one!

I'm working off the assumption you're from the northern hemisphere, which means winter is approaching! Days are getting shorter, the nights are colder. Coyotes don't hibernate, but food gets more scarce during the winter--so they're eating what they can! Coyotes eat whatever is available to them, including fruits, seeds, nuts and any meat that happens to be around. Don't be afraid to eat hearty meals this winter. One major staple of the coyote diet is deer, so keep an eye out for any venison that may be on the shelves. If you have any family or friends that hunt, ask if you could try some!

There are also some long videos made as background noise for sleeping, perhaps finding ones with coyote howling may help.

[kinstincts]

Hi I don't know if you're accepting asks right now, but I'd like some advice. I'm pretty sure I identify with/as a wolf and I really need advice on how to feel closer to that identity. All I know is like... tails and ears and stuff, but I currently can't buy much of anything due to my money situation :/ I'm also moving soon (to an apartment building with forest paths around! yay!) so I really need some small general things I could do to feel more close to my identity as a wolf :-)

I hope this makes sense, I'm super new to this stuff.

Hey there!

Here are a few posts I've made previously about wolfkin.

I think this post for coyotekin can be fairly helpful as well.

Another good piece of advice I would say is to make a list of everything that makes you believe you're a wolf. Is it the instincts? The hunger? The feeling of running through the woods? Memories? Smells? Sounds?

Take this list an examine it, and then make a list of activities that can make you feel these sensations (or send an example to me and I can make suggestions!) Looking at books or articles about wolf behavior, diet, etc. may also help to give ideas.

For example, perhaps you miss the social feeling of running in a pack, it may be good to look into local sports in your area to see if you can join any! Facebook groups for local areas are good ways to find unofficial/less organized teams like this.

Wolves are also den animals. Perhaps making a pillow/blanket fort to get cozy in with either friends or stuffed animals might make you feel at home.

And if your apartment allows, I would recommend adding some plants to your decor! They do live in nature, after all.

Here are some live wolf cams as well!

Hope this helps!

[kinstincts]

Do you have any ideas for someone whose dysphoria involves not physically emitting light like a star or a la bioluminescence?

Glow in the dark accessories or makeup might help! UV reactive makeup is another good one. Then all you'll need is a blacklight and it'll show up really cool!