#plural discourse

[a-lilcutiepie]

Going to break my silence on this on this main actually

So, I've been seeing a rise in people saying the same things against system littles being able to do XYZ, so as someone who's (technically) the littles y'all are tryna protect, here's a PSA

Syskids and littles are not children.

Please stop assuming that every single little in the world has a child-like maturity and thus should always be treated as a literal child. Look, even MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS acknowledge that littles should not be treated one-to-one as children.

First of all, you all should know that maturity and age are concepts that don't always loosely apply to systems. A lot of us literally don't even have an age and can't be neatly categorised into an age maturity group. Some of us who can be are often in maturity age ranges where typical age treatment drastically changes as you go through the range (eg one of us has an estimated age range of anywhere between 16 and 20. and no we can't tell what side of the spectrum they are). So we cannot simply rely on "maturity" to decide whether we can consent to anything or not.

But even if that wasn't an issue, I'd still have to deal with idiots who think "little" is a box that anyone deemed childish can be thrown into and not an optional label, like other system roles, that doesn't necessarily have to permanently define you.

Littles will not look the same. Some littles are not always littles. Some littles are technically adults. Some littles ARE always littles but can display maturity closer to adults. You can't just blanket treat all of them the exact same.

I myself am a really special kind of "little", in which childishness, adulthood and the supernatural combine to make a being that is effectively ageless but takes on the form of a child out of pure choice. My littlehood IS connected to trauma, yes, but it has also been reclaimed as a performance. There are times that I want to be treated as a child, sure, but people's idea of a "child" always fucking conflict with how I actually want to be treated because God forbid someone's childishness be sexual in nature, right?

Because of this, and how people treat littles in general, trying to find someone who affirms my littleness without trying to reduce my autonomy or treat me as an actual literal child who DOESN'T get called a groomer for doing what I WANT them to do is so fucking hard.

There's a reason I'm a self-identified kodo.

Also, if you decide to ignore this post because of my transIDs or contact stances or whatever, then congratulations! The antis have brainwashed you, because it is precisely because of how people treat littles that I've been pushed into the radqueer community in the first place. I'm sure the rest of system has a lot to say about that.

- Lixxie

[otaku-kin]

"Anti endo vent 💔" I am sad for you as well because you feel the need to fake oppression ♥︎.

You should vent about how hating people who use the term endogenic and mocking their appearance makes you disgusting and not the kind you can simply wash off. ❤️‍🔥 you can rid yourself of sin by lying.

Thanks for adding to everyone's day by making them feel a thousand times more shit for being alive. Having amnesia isn't an excuse either.

[crazydane666]

isff doesn't have DID and neither do most ppl on this site. Ppl are either rly lonely / working thru other mental issues or Worse (like Isuggestbeingacreep and Friends) are tryng to escape accountability.

-someone who actually has a loved one with REAL DIAGNOSED DID and knows how Terrifying and Confusing it is to literally lose hours, days, or even WEEKS of their life and usn't just playing with their Imaginary Friends

I believe you mean nothing bad by this ask, and I feel bad for your loved one. But to be very blunt, it is not my place to diagnose people online or doubt their stated mental issues. It adds nothing good or valuable to the conversation to be claiming she's faking without evidence. Whether she has DID or not doesn't excuse anything she's doing, so I don't much care to factor it into all of this

However, and the rest of this reply isn't directed at you, anon - even if she is plural, a system, has DID... it makes this stuff worse!

This got long and plural-focused, so, read-more. CW for references to CSA (of a headmate)

To catch people up to speed - being plural/a system is a colloquial term for experiencing DID, originally known as "multiple personality disorder". Different people have different experiences with it, seeing as it's a relatively poorly understood phenomenon. The rest of this is going to be less scientific, more "cultural". Some experience their headmates/alters (fellow identities) as being entirely separate entities, while others experience them as voices in their head. It's a wide range.

Now! This is relevant to ISFF because she, on her original account, made a post about her desire to rape a 2 year old headmate, using a meme format:

As a reminder, headmates are usually considered to be a separate entity. This is not understood to be an imaginary friend or OC, it is understood to be a separate being with their own mindset, capable of being harmed and experiencing their own emotions.

Later, after weeks of people bringing it up as proof of her being inappropriate on her "SFW" fetish blog, she backpeddled and claimed she both does not have a 2yo headmate, and that it was just a joke:

Still inappropriate on your "minors pls interact I'm safe for work minors pls see this pls" blog, but whatever. On its own, it would be a fair statement if she isn't plural and was ignorant of the implications. It would be fair if she IS plural and her headmates aren't separate entities in her case.

But no! In another post, her partner claims to be dating 1 alter of hers, pretty directly confirming that ISFF considers her alters to be separate beings with separate love lives, interaction, and life experiences.

So, like, she knows headmates will be understood as separate beings from herself. She clearly believes her plurality is separating enough for her different alters to have different partners/lives. And yet she still thought it was okay to joke about molesting one of them and then act like people are crazy for pointing out how weird that is to say.

ISFF wanting her plurality to both be accepted enough that her alters get to have separate lives but then treating plurality and alters as a joke/punchline in a meme is just... Weird

Added take from an Anon about this:

[burningangel-burninghead]

People in so many communities and subcultures waste so much time and energy gatekeeping and policing labels instead of being authentic and cultivating joy. If everyone did that those that are putting on airs would weed themselves out, anyway.

Even with groups that are indeed acting with malicious intent, like the KFF that weren't just misinformed, there comes a point where wasting all your energy on people that are never going to change their minds about you and yours is just a waste of valuable mental energy.

(The last paragraph does not apply if your life is in danger. I am talking purely about online spaces.)

[teeths-discourse-posts]

I dont understand a lot of anti endo takes. I think plurality is an under researched thing so its hard to say that *only* [x] thing allows you to be plural- I also believe that simply, you do not know what is going on inside someones head, what right do you have to say if they are or are not plural? i dunno though .