I reread the convo where Rika talks to Jumin about her dictatorial ideals. It happened after Sally died. How many years pre-canon was that? 'Cause Saeran was only brainwashed for 3 years, right? It's a bit of chronology, that I think challenges the theory that Rika was playing the long game when she gave Saeran that book on hacking, and that Mint Eye started 5 years ago, instead of 3. Not arguing, just wondering whether you had thoughts on this, because your analyses have been thought-provoking.
Yes, the chat with Jumin happened a little bit after Sally died, just like Rika’s similar chat with V.
Sally’s death was a little bit after the 2nd party, so it was between 2 years and 1 ½ year ago. The parties were every two years and the first one was 4 years ago, so the 2nd one was 2 years ago. Rika “died” 1 ½ year ago, so Sally’s death was within that timeframe.
Saeran was not brainwashed 3 years ago, it was decidedly 5 years ago, according to the sources explained in my original Mint Eye & RFA analysis post. He was brainwashed without anyone knowing about it for 3 or 3 ½, because V explains in Secret 1 that he discovered Saeran as the hacker during the hacking incident that happened a little bit after the 2nd party (so between 2 and 1 ½ years ago), and that’s when he realized something fishy was going on.
The hacking book was given to Saeran shortly after Saeyoung ran away, because he still wonders about him. Saeyoung ran away 7 years ago, and Saeran got kidnapped 5 years ago, so the book was given between 7 and 5 years ago, at least.
In 707′s route, when Saeyoung and MC find Rika’s agenda, he points out that Rika did her very best to keep her Mint Eye activities separated from her RFA ones, which means, she didn’t plan to mix the two worlds at all. However, after Sally died she snapped, and that’s when she decided that what she was doing was too little, that she had to ‘save the world’ (her so-.called dictatorial thoughts), and that’s when she decided to try and bring V and Jumin with her. However, as we see in Secret 1, when V rejected her thoughts she snapped, because she thought that he was choosing the RFA before her, that he picked the RFA instead of his fianceé. It’s made clear through Secret 1 that this is when she decided to merge the two worlds she decidedly kept separated, and why she attacked the RFA so fiercely from then on. It was all to spite V.
In any case, Mint Eye is even OLDER than 5 years old, because by the time Saeran got kidnapped five years ago, he was already surrounded by disciples.
I have in my drafts a ditched timeline I was making, so I’ll copypaste the important parts here, with the sources next to them.
Saeyoung (Luciel) runs away from home and leaves Saeran behind with the promise Rika and V would look after him. - 707 Route, 10th Day, VNM after the ‘Please Remember’ Chat.
Between 7 and 5 years ago
Rika gives Saeran a hacking book behind V’s back - Secret After Ending 2.
Saeran is kidnapped on his way home and taken to what is assumed is the start of the Mint Eye religious cult. His brainwashing process starts. - 707 Route, 10th Day, VNM after the ‘We are on our way’ Chat.
The RFA is founded and the first party is organized. - Prologue.
The Choi Twins’ mother ‘commits suicide’, though it is heavily implied Saeran/Rika/Mint Eye had something to do with it. - Secret After Ending 2.
The Second Party is organized.
During Saeyoung’s 20th birthday Rika sent him a floppy disk with pictures of Saeran taken while he was of high-school age. - 707 Route
Someone (Saeran) tried to gather the information on the guests of the party. - Mentioned through the entire game.
By Rika’s request, Saeyoung installs the Special Security System at her apartment, with the implied true purpose of protecting the Mint Eye information files.
Sally, Rika’s dog, died, triggering her to embrace Mint Eye fully.
Rika decides to finally share her thoughts on saving the world with V, but he disagrees (Secret Ending 1, Chapter 3) Eventually she decides to try her luck with Jumin, but he also disagrees with her view. (Jumin Route) (NOTE: I assume the VNM on day 10 with Jumin happens after the conversation Rika had with V in the SE1, due to her reference at V disagreeing with her and her attempts to recruit Jumin)
Rika injures V’s eyes. Their relationship ends. She leaves. - Secret Ending 01