#rezyl azzir

[sun-singer]

The jagged purpose of thorns

Based on Max Taylor’s ‘Bohimian Love 2’

Inktober day 31

[the-fruit-bandit]

I bet there's a guradian(s) out there in destiny whose roman empire is Rezyl Azzir and the Shadows of Yor lol

LIKE I can imagine a warlock being forcefully dragged away from a group of hunters who are spinning tales yelling "HE WAS A BLOODY TITAN YOU'RE ALL WRONG"

[thefirstknife]

Was looking through some older posts of yours and you had answered in an ask about Guardians changing classes and Rezzyl Azir/Dredgen Yor that:

“So while they may be naturally attune more towards some aspect of Light wielding, they still have to train to actually become their class in full.”

Can you elaborate a little more on that. Like how long would that take and how extensive of the training? Has there been any lore going more into detail about that?

Sorry if that’s a lot. Thank you for everything you do for this community it’s Greatly appreciated!!

It's okay!

Unfortunately, we don't really know how that took place. With Rezyl Azzir/Dredgen Yor it's super hard to say because he's very much a mythologised figure. His transformation into Yor was so mysterious and complete that most people never knew it used to be Rezyl and that was by his own design.

So how long it took him to get into the persona of Dredgen Yor and start behaving more like a Hunter? We have no clue. It might have been a gradual transformation as the Thorn corruption was spreading. Also, since we have no information on Dredgen Yor ever using any Light abilities, we don't even know if he only dressed as Hunter or if he started using what we would typically associate with Hunter abilities. So ultimately we don't even know if he actually trained in any Hunter disciplines.

This is especially a problem for Dredgen Yor in particular because he was such a reviled figure that I don't think he would've had the option to actually have a Hunter or Hunters teaching him. He might've learned through observation only and learned what he could. It was also fairly imperfect for him, as you can see on his cloak that the Hunter symbol isn't quite made properly. This maybe hints that without a proper teacher and enough time, one can't really learn these things easily. But that's purely speculative.

Felwinter also doesn't specify how long it took him to learn cross-class abilities (he learned shoulder charge from Titans). He of course didn't switch his class entirely, but learning other abilities surely takes time. However, we don't know how much time.

Outside of simply gameplay reasons, that's a really interesting question. Perhaps Ghosts have something to do with, as well as maybe some intrinsic attunement to the Light. Maybe the way the Light manifests in someone newly rezed is innately more geared towards a specific type of ability. But then in order to truly perfect this ability, one has to train for it. It's very unclear how it works and we have no idea what are all the elements that affect someone becoming a class or choosing a subclass.

There's some information on newly rezed Guardians in lore. For example, this one from Ghost Stories which is a Ghost recounting his experience with rezing his Guardian for the first time and that Guardian being forced to fight the moment she was rezed:

Problem was… my Guardian—the one I'd spent a very long time looking for—was lying dormant in their path: a lifeless husk in need of a wake-up call before her remains were atomized and I was left, for eternity, without my chosen. That I'd found her seconds before the Red Legion's survey team arrived was… unfortunate. But I had to do what I had to do. Some risks, after all, are worth taking. It was now or never. And besides, there's no timing like bad timing. I opened myself up to the Traveler's gift and enveloped her in Light just as the mining rig settled. My new Guardian gasped and sat up, crying out as if waking from a nightmare.

Basically, the Ghost had to rez her before the remain would be permanently destroyed, becoming unrecoverable. After the initial shock, the Guardian immediately started fighting. With her bare hands. No Light was used and there's no real indication of her class or subclass. There's a mention of her charging, but it's not clear if this is a Titan-type charge. Dodging is also mentioned. Nothing about Light is shown. I'm thinking that it's far more likely that new Guardians don't pick any specific class/subclass until a bit later and that us being rezed with a class is just a gameplay feature. Basically, all Guardians have the potential to use Light and to attune to certain abilities, but at the end of the day they still have to be taught and learned.

Osiris also recounts his experience of seeing Aunor being rezed for the first time.

"I remember the day you were raised," Osiris says with hushed strength. "Curled up beneath a ruined bus, screaming for help. Too terrified to listen to your Ghost, too frightened to hold the gun it had nudged under the wreck for you."

It seems getting to a weapon was more important than Light, possibly because newly rezed Guardians aren't really capable of doing anything specific with it. Which means they have to learn it later, possibly through exploring it on their own or with a teacher (or both). There has to be something innate about it, I think; that everyone's spark is inherenty leaning more into some specific way to use the Light, which then turns into a class through training and learning. Osiris himself is shown, very early in the Dark Age, as wielding Dawnblade. We don't know how long it's been since he was rezed here, but Dawnblade is very much defined almost exactly as we know it even that early in the Dark Age. Very curious.

Already mentioned Felwinter, but if you look at his lore book, he is never shown using the Light here. When he's rezed, he's just confused and in danger, mostly shown running away and using weapons. When he fights a Warlord over what would later become Felwinter's Peak, it is only said that Felwinter shot the Warlord's Ghost. On page 4 of the lore book, Felwinter meets another Exo Guardian and they get into a fight against the frames and only the other Exo is shown using the Light, much to his own surprise:

It was Gryphon who saved them in the end, with three bolts of Arc Light that erupted out of his hands. As the frames closest to them disintegrated in a shower of blue light, Gryphon whooped and said, breathlessly, "I've never done that before."

This is super vague as far as Light abilities go. No clue what class Gryphon-11 would be here. He was capable of using the Light, though clearly has not done so before, and his Light isn't defined into any specific class or ability.

Felwinter later became known for being a void user, but it seems that only came to prominence after he joined with the Iron Lords. He probably ended up favouring the Warlock class for a variety of reasons, but he wasn't really rezed as one in the same sense that it happens to us in the game.

This has also been shown with Zavala in his story trailer. He is never shown using his Light in his early fights; the first time we see him wielding it in the trailer is later in the City.

It's a really interesting thing to think about and so far, we've seen a lot of different things, both in lore and gameplay itself. Lore seems to imply that when a Guardian is rezed, they don't immediately know their class and they don't use their Light right away. But then again, in gameplay we get the Light really quickly. Could also be to indicate that the Young Wolf is special! But either way, there's still a lot that's not super well defined and now with Lucent Hive, the'es even more questions. Seems like the reason they mimic our classes and subclasses is probably because that's what Savathun learned while exploring the Light, as well as possibly something tied to Ghosts and how they've learned that Guardians work. I'm hoping for more on the Lucent Hive over this topic, as their experience would be unique and allow us to study the process in a way that we couldn't do back in the Dark Age.

[shalalalalaw]

Help me lose my mind

A pocket in time where Kabr and Praedyth are both lost in time, Pahanin doesn't know why he's broken and Rezyl is desperately trying to keep both of them afloat after returning from a trip to Luna.

A Pahanin/Rezyl series.

All that we are, all that we need (they're different things)

Rezyl’s fingers scape over his scalp and then fingers cradle Pahanin’s jaw.

He follows the gentle tug, climbing over the man’s lap to rest against his chest. There’s a look on Rezyl’s face, sad and damning and when lips brush his own the ache in his chest flares.

And you believe something I can't define

“Do you ever feel like there's something out there waiting for you? Something that's missing from you?” He mumbles it to Rezyl’s skin, quiet and soft. He gets a sleepy hum in response.

“Like, some kind of destiny? A purpose?” The Titan’s gravelly voice rumbles against Pahanin’s ribcage like it’s empty.

“No. Just… gone. Like a piece of you has been lost.”

I'd rather be blind

“You’re tired Han, you just came back from a two-week rotation on Venus, you haven’t disgraced Hunters all around the system. C’mon, I’ll take you home.”

“No, it’s over Rezyl, the deed has been done, there’s no turning back.”

“I’m sure Kabr and Praedyth can forgive you.”

“Ah, home sounds nice, I can hide away from my shame. Yours or mine?”

[phthalology]

Dredgen lore-diving also brought me to this early musing on the reason Ghosts choose their people, which of course is now relevant to Savathûn. It's also classic Bungie: Cortana picking Master Chief because he was "lucky," the very fantastical 'animal partner' or 'familiar' trope as it applies to AI, etc..

Also more of Hive magic being equated with a sort of 'might makes right' thing, except 'might' in this case being maybe, with generous interpretation, Rezyl/Yor's unfulfilled desire to define and claim being 'special' to the parental or god-figure of the Traveler

[heavenlyeros]

hey hello it me i bring you pain

<3

[nagunkgunk]

commission for @lundibix

[mail-me-a-snail]

the nasty boy + a pure boy (and an unfortunate guardian)