#riel art

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Oh wow. Imagine combining that facemorphing with putting him in a pot on wheels or something similar so he can move aboveground, this Flowey would be unstoppable

THIS IS SUCH A GOOD CONCEPT though it would DEFINITELY take time getting used to but we all know papyrus would gladly help with this <3 i also saw ur other ask about asriel with eds that i kept meaning to answer so i hope this suffices. love him he is so silly

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you don't have to answer this if you don't want to but i just wanna say that growth spurt and AFR are exactly what i was thinking of as good examples of "asriel comes back" AUs when i left those tags on your post haha! i love those specifically because they're among the few that don't erase his trauma and his time as flowey as now being a permanent part of who he is. if, instead, you just revert him back into the same sweet little goat boy he used to be, i feel like you remove the entire point of his story and everything that's interesting about the canon ending and what we see in the alarm clock dialogue.

yeah exactly!!! i think afr and growth spurt are some of the few post pacifist aus that really do asriel justice i love them SOOO much. i have my own au but its more like. asriel never died so now hes just flowey dealing with looking like asriel cuz he still reacts the same way to trauma. but anyway afr is so good its by far my favorite au i drew these like. two years ago i think after reading it. afr asriel is the character of all time i love them SO much i really should draw them again soon. theres just something really special about the way her character arc is written i stayed up literally all night with a migraine to finish reading it cuz its written so well

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hey sorry for bothering you but i was wondering how do you get your sketches to look i dunno even mildly comprehensive

all of mine look like this or 10 times worse its insanely impressive to me that yours look complete and presentable

hi sorry for taking so long to answer this i got the flu again </3 but anyway ill take something that i did recently!! i typically just try to get the general idea of the silhouette and lines i want.. like ill try to make the sketches more square shaped or circle shaped depending on how i want to get the character across... something ive been struggling with recently is trying to put less effort into sketches cuz i get frustrated that i cant get the same Feel in the actual line art if that makes sense. but i always go for the General Shape first and then hope everything works out despite usually liking the sketch more lol........

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Your tags about Asriel in DT being a nice guy but also Kinda A Jerk got me thinking. Like. If he were a nice guy and beloved but also got bored of people and sick of them So Fast, especially when they only know the perfect amazing guy surface level.

Like, we know he's had romantic encounters with both Catty and Bratty, we know even Pizzapants considers him a close friend. I'm picturing him like, picking one person to be his datemate or best friend, being the sweetest and nicest guy to them, seeing what their likes and interests are... and slowly getting bored, distancing himself, finding someone more entertaining. He's never rude to them as he leaves, he's still polite and kind and wonderful, but surely now that he knows what they're like there's something better to be doing. (And maybe a part of him is a bit entertained by all the drama Bratty and Catty are starting up now)

After all, Flowey initially kinda acted like that. He says he gave everyone their best possible endings and talked to them until conversation topics were exhausted, he didn't start doing No Mercy runs until he got bored of being nice, until he'd 'read every book, [and] burned every book'

So perhaps Asriel's a little similar, in that there are only so many people in this small town, and college is Big and New and Exciting and Far Away-- something I think Toriel foreshadows in the first chapter. In that opening montage with driving through Hometown, Toriel briefly wonders if after the excitement of college, Asriel will really want to return home.

I do think he does care for people. Since he lacks the trauma of Flowey, I think he's a lot more open with his emotions, still feels guilt over things, and still feels like he can return emotions of love. We know he definitely could as a kid, even when it was just about video games. I like to imagine caring for Kris really is genuine, that like Chara, Kris is the one he feels understands him best. Because they live together and Kris sees how Asriel isn't perfect, he gets bored with people, he needs alone time or entertainment or sometimes he wants to discuss 'hey it'd be fucked up if this happened in this book instead of what really happened, that'd be interesting to see'. And since Kris knows those imperfect impulses, and perhaps sometimes explores them for him(like rambling about what they think would happen in such a situation), Asriel has more to explore and talk about with Kris, meaning he doesn't get bored of them...

I feel like Chara and Asriel in UT had a habit of mutually idolizing each other, with Asriel believing Chara was the only person who really understands him, his best friend, and Chara being harder to determine but they chose to painfully kill themself and entrust Asriel with seven souls and create a happy world FOR MONSTERS, rather than just take power for themself and destroy everything right off the bat. I think it would be fun if a similar mutual idolization is explored with Kris and Asriel, although with less. Suicide and murder. If like Asriel felt Kris was the only person who knew the real 'Asriel' while Kris thought Asriel was the best brother ever and deserved all his adoration, and how do they get to know him so well? Out of all the people who adore him in Hometown how are they his best friend?

...Yeah as it turns out I had A Great Many Thoughts hope you enjoyed my immense rambling.

AAA THANK YOU FOR THIS (and sorry for taking so long to answer i needed to gather my Asriel Thoughts) i think deltarune asriel is such an Interesting Guy. we know so little about him besides Really Good Guy Who Is Loved but then theres that. story where he was sobbing while confessing to his Video Games Sins Despite Sin Not Being A Thing In His Religion. would Love to know what That was about......

ok i ended up having many thoughts so i will put this under read more <3

based on ut asriel i wouldnt be surprised if dr asriel acted that way out of fear. i think the idea of charas thoughts on Being Above Consequences really comes into play here... flowey was so disconnected from receiving long term consequences that he was terrified of chara at the end of no mercy and didnt really. register it as fear at first. and thats not surprising, of Course he would have a hard time being afraid of anything at that point cuz hes so used to being in control and not having to care about anyone. but he Does care about chara and hes so scared of them hating him or leaving him or at the very worst killing him for good,,, and in both no mercy and true pacifist he has a hard time owning up to his actions until losing chara is a real possibility... like hes scared of permanence you know?? and i dont think its very different from when he was still alive either,, asriel just wanted to do what was best for everyone. on top of it there was the stress of being the prince which ive talked about a few times i think.....

but anyway considering how he first tried to help everyone as flowey and only started acting that way when he knew he could get away with it is pretty telling. especially with how he REALLY doesnt want toriel and asgore to know who he is based on "i dont want to break their hearts all over again"..... like hes just so scared of them not loving asriel anymore because they know that hes Actually A Bad Murder Flower. of course i could just be looking too far into it and maybe he Does really want to spare their feelings but,, idk. to me i feel like toriels feelings towards asgore and how she tells frisk to Be Good would really influence the way flowey thinks about things as toriel is obviously really important to him,,, he already sees himself as unforgivable and he probably cant imagine toriel forgiving him and he just. cant deal with that. especially if he thinks that we're done resetting and This Is It. he already struggles with thinking its his fault chara died and if his mom hated him for his actions as flowey he would probably be So upset.

so when it comes to deltarune asriel, i think it would be really interesting if hes such a nice and good guy cuz hes so scared of being unwanted, but also he has a hard time really truly caring for people. not in the exact same way flowey struggles to care for people (u know his whole If You're Nice To Anyone You Will Get Hurt), but like, in a way where he feels he cant be himself to them because hes trying to keep up his Perfect Guy Thing. flowey says that the only people he could truly be friends with or care about is someone Just Like Him. like you said with him getting bored and distancing himself, i wouldnt be surprised if he became "friends" with someone and after a bit decided it could never work out because he just doesnt Understand them and gets bored or because hes scared he'll mess something up and Never Be Forgiven Ever. in undertale forgiveness was kind of a Big Thing for asriel in particular,,, he needed to learn to forgive himself without someone else validating it.... I Think About This A Lot.

the idea of kris and asriel mutually idolizing each other like chara and asriel would also be really interesting.... kris looks up to asriel because hes. Well. You Know. but asriel would probably really look up to kris as well for just being themself. theyre able to Be Weird and they were comfortable enough to play pranks on people without feeling like they needed to...... Beg Forgiveness From A Priest?? he probably wants to be able to feel that kind of freedom. and given how ralsei says darkners are there to "assist lightners"... and everything going on with the concept of freedom................. idk i just Think About It............ i would elaborate but its 5:30 am and i Will start to ramble and just Say Things

i think i was going. Somewhere. with all of this but im kind of losing my train of thought and just going into Analysis Zone..... i had this whole paragraph analyzing the other deltarune kids but it went on for a little too long cuz i like to ramble BUT BASICALLY i think its really interesting that most characters in deltarune struggle with lack of control (which is why susie is very important but if i start talking about that i will Never Stop)....... i love undertale and deltarune very much everyone is so well written and i think about them all so much

as a side note i think whatever happened to dess is probably also a pretty big part of. whatevers going on with him. theres not really much to talk about here cuz we know so little about dess but i get the feeling shes gonna be Really Important and if i will cry so hard if its like another hero and mari thing i will be So Sad All The Time. omori my beloved very good game. but anyway it would be Very interesting if asriel being at college was also kind of an escape from whatever happened. like if he struggles to be there cuz everything stresses him out or something......... its Way too early to guess but it Is fun to think about :):) cannot wait for toby to release the Asriel Lore

to wrap this up yes i think it would be very great if asriel was secretly kind of a jerk or had many issues i think it would add a lot of depth to his character. here is a drawing i did of dr asriel doing the Shintaro Kisaragi Grin. imagining asriel being like shintaro is the funniest thing in the world to me

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Please draw AM I am absolutely losing my mind and I need to see him in your style he's so pretty

I KEEP MEANING TO DRAW HIM and every time i think about am i think about this ask,, i promise i will do it Some Day,,,, heres an am drawing from uhhh june i think?? i think if i were to draw him now i would make him Older and More Stressed. make his hair look more like wires cuz thats what i was Going For but its hard to tell without color,,,, but ANYWAY i promise i will draw him some day </3

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it's time

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this was Such a good episode I'm Crying

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